Someone else who needs to see Booksmart, if only to realize that Billie Lourd is basically playing their most famous character - Chelsea Peretti, given that the only discernable difference between Gigi and Gina Linetti [besides the drug stuff] is the last two letters in their first names
AHAHAHAHA!!
I watched an interview with Billie and she said that Gigi is basically her id personified and I’m like I FUCKING LOVE YOU, YOU ARE YOUR MOTHER’S DAUGHTER!
A new Vulture post-finale interview reveals this cut line: "We had a line in the table-read when she says, “If it was going to be anyone, it was going to be you, Greg,” and we cut that. And Skyler was mad about it! Which is pretty funny. The guys all got kind of competitive about it."
Okay the funny thing is EVEN WITHOUT READING THAT QUOTE I literally said the EXACT SAME THING to several people, that it was pretty clear that if Rebecca was going to choose one one the guys, it was going to be Greg. I mean, Skylar, respect, man, but even WITHOUT that quote and just watching the finale, it was clear how close Rebecca came to choosing him, what with her saving him for last, giving him the fullest explanation, the “missing” parts of the conversation that seemed to imply there were likely some more explanations of Rebecca’s feelings for him...
Seriously, it’s okay that line was cut. WE KNOW.
[link to the interview for those interested, obvs HEAVY spoilers]
I assume you've caught on that Charlotte's basically in The Good Place: Lucifer edition in S3 as Eleanor - with Amenadiel as Chidi [way too rigid ethical one], Lucifier as Tahani [name dropping, selfish British hottie with a new/better found family], Dan as Jason [if more shady and less dim], Ella as Janet [smiley & all knowing], Maze as Michael [torture demon who accidentally fell for humans] Chloe as Simone [sweetheart who's still inexplicably kept in the dark] & I guess Linda as Judge Gem
The already discussed implications over what happened may not even be the half of it - they surely wanted to send a poignant message to show suicidal people they are loved & will be missed....but there's no getting around this one still had to die to see it, and was never allowed to fully understand it until after he died. Frankly, the more you think about those implications, the uglier the unintended message sent becomes, & the uglier their inability to fully think it through becomes too
Exactly. When it comes to any kind of storytelling, there’s always the message the writers want to get across and what actually comes across. And boy howdy, did they mess up their delivery big time on this one. Honestly, I can’t even begin to articulate how painful this is for me right now, and I’m sure plenty of other fans feel similarly, so I apologize if this response is all over the place.
So here’s the thing:
The Magicians is, ultimately, a show that based on a trilogy of fictional books. We know it’s fiction. And with any work of fiction, writers have the creative liberty to shape their characters however they want; but with that being said they need to be conscious of their fanbase. If writers want their messages to be accepted by viewers/readers, it’s their responsibility to convey those messages in a manner that gets the point across responsibly and, you know, doesn’t traumatize their fanbase. This especially goes for queer narratives in fiction. Intention carries little to no weight when what we see tells us a different story.
The Magicians just killed their personification of hope. I wrote a meta earlier in the season on Quentin’s mental health and talked about how he’s always had some kind of hope that’s kept him fighting. This season he’s been fighting for Eliot. After 4x05, it was shown how Quentin was the one who wanted to restart a relationship with Eliot. He was the one who stepped up and basically said, “we just lived this whole life together, and I want to be with you again.” That was his choice.
And then the writers have him commit suicide via martyrdom?? After we’ve watched him spiral for the last couple episodes?? Oh sure, Quentin’s death was poignant but for all the wrong reasons. It was a double punch to the gut with an iron fist. And then they have the audacity to say that we don’t always get closure in real life? Do you people seriously think any of us watch this show because we think it’s like real life?
Bottom line: This is a story. There are dragons and faeries and fucking magic for god’s sake. And yes, I understand that part the Magicians is, “not everything is solved with magic,” because you can’t just magic your problems away, not in the show and not in real life. We know that. That’s why we look for heroes in fiction. It all comes down to representation. We get so attached to characters because we see ourselves in them, we empathize with their struggles and find in them a shared humanity that lets us know we’re not alone. We see similar scenarios and watch these people we’ve grown to love rise to the challenge and overcome it! But when fiction shows us that our hero, the character who is essentially the heart of the show, doesn’t have hope in such a final way, it fucking hurts. And then, to deny Quentin the reunion he deserves with Eliot is just twisting the knife. The message the writers wanted to send with Quentin’s death was directed towards people with suicidal ideations and was intended to let them know they are loved and would be missed, but that’s not the message that came across. Not the full one, anyways.
You want to give your audience--a significant portion of which, need I remind you, is comprised of queer people--a message about suicide?
Lead by example. Show, don’t tell. Let them live for fuck’s sake.
Scary Endgame theory 1: Carol/everyone left is killed by Thanos in 1st act - then they cut to Ant-Man in Quantum Realm, going through time vortex to get back days before battle, & history fixed from there whether or not Carol pummels Thanos on 2nd try. But still more comforting than scary theory 2: Endgame Carol is revealed as a Skrull in credits [explaining differences with CM Carol] with real Carol as prisoner of rogue Skrulls gone bad, setting up evil Skrull invasion as next 22-part MCU saga
MY DUDE THIS IS THE SCARIEST THING YOU’VE EVER SENT ME LMAO
oh my g od oh my sweet jesus for real though if they pull a twilight i’ll fucking cackle
that skrull theory though oh man that’s some good shit that’s some good drama, god knows how that skrull would replicate carol’s abilities but i’m Into It
Big Parks and Rec Easter Egg in Good Place finale - on the back of Eleanor's Celebrity Baby Plastic Surgery Disasters magazine, there's an ad for some kind of product with the name....Jean-Ralphio on it! And this is after last year's finale had an ad for a Dennis Feinstein [now aka Derek] product on the back of that same magazine. But since Feinstein was an actual big mogul in the Parks world and Jean-Ralphio wasn't, maybe this is a tiny little hint that Eleanor really is in a simulation now....
Wait seriously??????
Oh my God I totally didn’t see that from last season or from the finale! This is so so great!!! Great job catching this!!!!!
But it actually totally works - there’s a Jean-Ralphio Easter Egg in the Parks finale that he gets his own line of champagne (Craig and Typhoon are drinking it on their anniversary cruise thing).
So Parks and Rec and The Good Place officially take place in the same world (ignoring that Dennis Feinstein is Derek and Ben Wyatt is a Bad Place cronie and Wendy Haverford is Bad Place exec Val, etc.).
An Archive of Our Own, a project of the Organization for Transformative Works
[SPOILER ALERT]
Three weeks after the gate is closed, and one week before the Snowball, El finally gets the chance to meet an awake and well Will Byers for the very first time in our dimension. A bonus chapter also gives her the chance to catch up with his mother as well.
Quote from Chris Wood to TV Line about next week's ep, saying Mon-El hates Mr. Mxyzptlk because "he hates even more that this guy wants Kara to marry him and is trying to manipulate the situation into making her almost feel like he has no choice.” - presumably without any concept of irony or what he's really doing on the show in the first place.
great, two straight white men are fighting for the main female lead who is likely to not have his own arc in this episode (and season)