#second civil war

[raritygirl]

[aunti-christ-ine]

Sweet.

[gaykarstaagforever]

"I was bringing my arsenal of guns in an unregistered vehicle to a California rally in SUPPORT of Trump, not against him! STOP DEFAMING ME!"

You know this guy doesn't have a lawyer yet because their first instruction to him would have been "absolutely do not say that."

--and--

That typical American experience of being confused for an armed extremist from the other side!

How do they even make these kinds of mistakes? Did they even bother to check his illegal fake documents first? Cops, man.

[radarofficial]

National press is speculating that America is heading to civil war no matter how November turns out.

[gaykarstaagforever]

If Biden has to choose between civil war or militarizing the Southern border to appese half the country who are fascists, I think we know what he's going to choose.

Of course when Trump wins he's already promised to do concentration camps for brown people he declares "illegal," so I guess whatever Biden does is the lesser of two evils.

See? See the problem with that standard, liberals? It forces you to defend giving fascists exactly what they want.

[chaddydad1]

Ya'll think they playing around but they are not.

[veliusthewanderer]

The Second Civil War: How It Has Already Begun and How It Could Progress.

We're midway through the year 2023 and already the division both among the Republicans and between them and the Democrats has received a new crack. Ron DeSantis, the Mussolini to Donald Trump's Hitler, is set to announce his candidacy for the White House in 2024. The final months of 2023 and the early months of 2024 will become a period of warfare between two of the GOP's most hardline candidates, and Trump already has a head-start on DeSantis, hitting him with ads which paint the Florida governor as an opponent of social security benefits. Meanwhile, Democrats watch on the sidelines, waiting to see who will emerge from the Republican bloodbath. But you wouldn't know this from the many posts on Twitter which declare that Trump will not only overcome DeSantis, but go on to defeat President Biden in the general election and win back the White House he was driven from in 2020.

There has been growing statements by people such as Marjorie Taylor-Greene (R-GA) for a "national divorce" which in theory would allow Republican states to manage their own laws without interference from the Democrats or the central government. The problem is, a national divorce cannot happen without a civil war, and as things continue to remain in limbo, the more extremist elements on both sides are getting ready to take it to the next level, one side in defense, the other in offense. It should be easy to see which side is playing offense because ever since Trump last occupied the White House, they've been playing offense. It's therefore not a stretch to say we're already in the throes of another civil war and while no full-scale violence has happened so far, I fear its just a matter of time.

So how would a second Civil War progress? Unlike 1860-65, this will not be so much a war between regions of the country as between urban/suburban and rural. With the majority of liberals located in the urban and suburban areas of the country, they control the commerce. On the other hand, the rural areas are the breadbaskets from which the cities derive much of their food supply. Should a second Civil War take place, it would be easy for the Conservative, rural inhabitants to cut off food and water supply to the liberals in the cities. How effective this would be would depend on how much has been stocked. The opening days of the conflict would be the most dangerous. Over time, however, as the cities and suburbs band together, a pool of manpower could be gathered which could then be directed at seizing the farmlands and secure those resources, thus denying long-term victory for the ruralists.

Why am I outlining a potential second Civil War? Many factors come into play when laying out the likely causes of a second Civil War. Of these, ideology is perhaps-alongside religion-the biggest factor. With both sides dug in and unwilling to make any effort to talk to the other side without resorting to mudslinging, name-calling, and accusations which may or may not be based on facts, and with the radical religious extremists who primarily thrive on the Right pursuing the suppression of women's rights, including reproductive rights, and pushing for more and more extreme measures against the LGBTQA+, the stage is set for a second showdown. The most tragic thing about this civil war is that it will also involve issues which had not be resolved in the first Civil War, such as states' rights.

In the end, no matter which side ultimately emerges from this second Civil War, the country will be changed forever, and quite possibly the United States will cease to be united. shattered into regional confederacies (pun very much intended) whose only common ground was that they were once part of the world's only superpower but had fallen from Grace due to pride, presumption, hubris and paranoia of the other side. What's worse is that many households, many families will become more polarized around their respective figureheads to such an extent that the very concept of family could be forever destroyed. We came close to that point in the last Civil War and only managed to avoid it because of military skill, tactical thinking, and a forgiving commander-in-chief who strove until he was assassinated to bring the country back together. This time, there will be no such figure as Lincoln to begin the healing process as many will simply cast off central government control in favor of regional strongmen who will only be interested in their own territories. Marjorie Greene could, at that point, get the very national divorce she spoke of, but at the high cost in dead, injured, and property destroyed. Without a central agency to spread out the costs of reconstruction due to separatism finally winning out over national unity, each independent region will struggle just to remain sovereign, let alone rebuilding.

This is a truly horrifying prospect that should scare everyone. Sadly as we near the 2024 Presidential General Election and have the two best people facing off, calls for national divorce or civil war will only grow louder, and it'll only then take someone lighting the fuse to set the House of America crashing down on all our heads.

[awkwardpariah]

The Insurgency: After the MAGA regime fell in November of 2031 a crop of secessionist states and terrorist organizations rose from the Ashes. Most fell mere months after their formation like the Christian Republic centered in Western Nebraska and the 2nd Texas Republic around Amarillo. However, some groups managed to hold out for years. The most infamous: the American Redoubt in the Northern Rockies. Founded by the most extreme elements of the NDF and the Atomwaffen terrorist organization, they managed to keep fighting a guerilla war for 4 years thanks to their massive stockpiles of small arms. The Other War: When AOC took office, most people expected her Green New Deal to be shelved in favor of a more pragmatic, i.e. oil based, war economy. By 2032 her decision was paying real dividends. With so many oil, gas, and coal sources behind enemy lines, modernizing the country's energy grid not only proved essential to war production, but kicked off an economic boom in the Southwest, a region rapidly becoming known as the new "World's Factory." But an unlikely hero in the fight for climate change was the fledgling algae farming industry. Once limited to a handful of small sites in Los Angeles and San Francisco, the country's need for a reliable source of protein without land for livestock feed kickstarted a boom in the demand for genetically modified algae derived proteins. By 2032 once empty desert in California, Utah, Nevada, Arizona, New Mexico, and Colorado were blanketed in algae greenhouses that not only provided a stable source of food, but also extracted a good deal of CO2 from the air, and increased the Earth's albedo, cooling the planet. The Big Linkup: After 3 years of fighting, and the hard slog across the Great Plains and Rocky Mountains, Army Groups East and West meet at Burlington, Colorado. For most people, this signals the end of the war, and indeed it does for the government as well. Both army groups will reduce in size considerably, and the conflict against the insurgents will transition over to a primarily counter-terrorist campaign against the insurgent cells. Air power and special forces units will do the bulk of the fighting from now on. Election 2032: There was no question about AOC seeking a 2nd term, and after the collapse of the MAGA regime, the idea of challenging her for the nomination seemed absurd. By the Democratic National Convention, AOC was at the height of her power and used it to finally dump Pete Buttigieg and nominate a strong VP that wouldn't try to undermine her: Senate Finance Committee Chair Katie Porter. The National Union Party puts up Utah Governor Joel Ferry, one of the few National Union Green New Dealers. The National Union Party makes a strong showing among suburban voters who are still no fans of AOC's progressive agenda, particularly with regard to her war on their portfolios, but ultimately the President wins her re-election bid thanks to the success in the war and on crafting a strong social safety-net. Crafting a New Order: 2033 is a year for ends and new beginnings. Mitt Romney dies at 86 in the middle of his third Senate term. The Senator leaves behind a legacy as the leader of the wartime loyal opposition, and in many ways the last man to carry Ronald Reagan's torch. Not long after Romney's death, Congress passes the 29th Amendment to the Constitution, which establishes informed consent and in effect bodily autonomy, an unalienable right. By Summer, those who tried to destroy those rights are charged with high treason and crimes against humanity. To cap off the year, Donald Trump Sr. is taken off life support. The former President had been brain dead for almost 3 years, kept alive by his family to maintain their legitimacy as leaders of the MAGA movement. Artemis VI: In 2029, Artemis VI lifted off from Cape Canaveral carrying six astronauts to the Gateway station and then onto Shackleton Base in the Lunar South Pole. The mission was the final flight of the SLS rocket, rushed into service before the Cape was completely surrounded by the NDF. The crew had a single assignment: mine as much water ice as was possible to keep the newly nationalized fleet of on-orbit servicing satellites, and by extension every other satellite, fueled and flying for the duration of the war. The Rebs captured the team at Kennedy Space Center, and the 2030 hurricane season trashed the Cape. No further launches could be safely conducted beyond small supply flights out of Wallops until 2034. When the Artemis 6 returned to Earth their bodies were frail, having lost muscle and bone density. But radiation damage was minimal thanks to their decision to move Shackleton into a nearby lunar lava tube. VA Day: On May 26, 2035 the town of Salmon, Idaho was completely destroyed by a combined air an artillery campaign that had been going on for a week. Salmon was the last hold out of the American Redoubt terrorist state, and its destruction finally brought Victory in America. VA Day was, in practice, a technicality. The Redoubt hadn't been able to threaten anyone outside of the Idaho panhandle for over a year, and for 4 years the insurgency had been limited to the Rockies and Appalachia. But on that day Americans everywhere celebrated the end of the bloodiest war in our country's history. Almost 9 million people had died, 2.5% of the population. 50 million people had been displaced and the war had cost the country trillions to bring to a close. Justice was still being sought by those who suffered under the MAGA regime, with Congress finally agreeing to hold a vote on the proposed War Reparations bonus to the UBI system. But for many, the debt of the war can never be paid. New Normal: With the war over Congress sets out to keep the victory they fought so hard for. A new amendment is sent to the still readmitting states for ratification, one that would give Congress the power to regulate redistricting, campaign finance, and places the country under a Ranked Choice/Popular Vote system for all elected offices, including the President. Meanwhile, the government also struggles to right many wrongs of the war, particularly with regard to the million or so Americans still displaced from the War. With the elections of 2036 on the horizon, nobody wants to be held responsible for making hard decisions. But at least one more is made with Congress agreeing not to repeat the mistakes of the past and to simply assume the war debts of the rebel states, rather than consigning them to financial ruin. <-Part III  \ Part IV