If Kanae had remained alive until the end of the series, do you think Akio would have used her as the new Rose Bride after Anthy left? And if that were the case, would Kanae have allowed it?
There's a really interesting theory about Kanae that I've seen from some Tumblr users. The theory suggests that Kanae was a former duelist who was possibly the winner of all the duels before the events shown in the series, and I'd like to know what you think about it. Here's a short post that gives some hints about this theory: https://www.tumblr.com/anthycoded/745253794824224768/of-course-the-ep13-shadow-play-is-directly-about
Hi!
First of all, I will say I am mostly interested in reading the whole duel system as a metaphor for the cycle of abuse vs the process of growing up. By this I mean I am not super interested in understanding how the powers work or anything too much world-building related 'cause I think that is not the point of the series (everything is willingly left very vague and surreal). All of this to say this is the lens I will use to answer you.
Ask 1 - It may have been possible, but personally I think it would not have happened. The point of Akio and Anthy's relationship is that it is toxic and co-dependent. It is not just Anthy who is initially dependent on Akio, but Akio himself psychologically depends on Anthy. This means that:
Symbolically, Anthy is meant to have for Akio a power nobody else has. This is why only she can be Akio's rose bride.
Psychologically, Akio is parasitic to Anthy and depends on her. He feels strong and wise and adult because he can abuse Anthy and through her other kids. Now, an abuser can definitely find a new victim, but:
A) It would not work thematically - the whole point is that symbolically Anthy leaving means the cycle is broken. Akio won't be able to re-create the system of duels without Anthy as his accomplice. Similarly, the other kids in the student council are all growing up and making themselves more independent from Akio's toxic influence. (Especially Touga aka Akio's other main victim).
B) If Akio were to choose another victim to replace Anthy I am not sure he would choose Kanae. Long story short, Akio is not interested enough in Kanae. Throughout the story Akio focuses mostly on three people: Anthy, Utena and Touga. The implication is that they are his "favorites". His court of Kanae is instead linked to the idea of getting a hold of Ohtori Academy. There is also the fact Kanae is already 18. The implication of Akio getting rid of her when she is becoming an adult ties into him being attracted only by kids.
C) Despite all of this, if for some reason Akio were to choose Kanae as his next "main victim", I think Kanae might not be able to escape him. I say this for the simple reason that in the series she in fact fails to escape him. She stays a victim of her mom and Akio until the very end. Like, it is obvious that she does not really love Akio nor is particularly happy to marry him. Still, she goes along with what her parents tell her, which makes so she is unable to grow up and become her own person.
Ask 2- I think it is an interesting theory, but personally I disagree with it.
1- The "lilies" reference happens in episode 13, while Kanae's episode is 14. So, I don't think it relates to her. The person the shadows are talking about is Utena. Moreover, I read a translator note that explained what the shadows are saying is part of a saying. Here is what that translation note says:
"Standing, she is like a (herbaceous) peony; sitting, she is like a (tree) peony; and walking she is like a lily."
It's a stock phrase to describe such a radiant beauty that every movement adds to her charms.
In context, it means that Utena overcame the first cycle of duels and left them looking as beautiful as a lily. However, she will be asked to come back to the arena to start a new cycle soon. As for why there are lilies in Kanae's duel, I can think of two reasons:
Since Kanae's duel is the very first of the second cycle, the lilies may be a symbol of the new cycle starting. Utena left the first cycle as a lily and she is now starting a second journey.
The lilies may foreshadow Kanae's death since they are flowers very commonly used at funerals. Kanae deep down knows she is in danger, but she can't act on this unconscious realization.
2- I don't think it makes sense thematically (nor plot-wise). The cycle of duels is both "growing up" and "the cycle of abuse". This means that leaving it means to both be done growing up and freeing one-self from abuse. For example, Nanami leaves the moment she grows and realizes she does not want to be a prisoner of the cycle of violence anymore. The same goes for Utena and Anthy. If Kanae truly were a duelist in the cycle started by Akio, but managed to leave, then... why is she still Akio's girlfriend? Why is she still a trapped child? Why isn't she wiser and more conscious of the danger she is in? Like, the more the kids fight, the more they grow up. If Kanae truly was a "previous winner" she should be far ahead than everyone else, but she is one of the most helpless characters. There is also the fact that... there is really no winner of the tournament tbh. That is the point of the series. There are no princes, nor princesses and the whole thing is manufactured by Akio. The point is that the kids can never truly leave the cycle nor Ohtori Academy:
Akio: The students of this academy are all free, have a love of learning, and above all, do not fight. Right? Utena: I hope it always stays that way. Kanae: Nothing bad ever happens at Ohtori Academy.
Ohtori Academy is a twisted Neverland. In the conversation above both Utena and Kanae are victims of Akio's lies and illusion.
Sure, you could argue that Kanae is a previous Utena aka she won all the duels and became Akio's "princess" for a while. However, she is now too old and Akio is thinking of discarding her. Still, I doubt it since it is implied nobody before Utena came close to complete the whole process. Moreover, the context around Kanae's relationship with Akio is clear enough. Akio seduced Kanae's mom and charmed her father to become their "heir". Then he and Anthy proceeded to poison Kanae's father and kept preying on Kanae to secure Akio's power at Ohtori.
Thank you for the asks!








