#shadowsan

[zethsmo]

finished this at oike 11 pm n immediately went to sleep

[confetti-smoker]

Some more hehes for your hahas

[snakesinsocks2005]

weak links in the chain

[7origamisheep]

non papercarm

most of my non papercarm art is just shitposts but sometimes you get cool thinsg (mostly me bashing my head against the wall thinking about mummys girl carmen)

[jackrabbitbramble]

Finished watching Carmen Sandiego. They make me ill

Lyrics from: "Forwards Beckon Rebound" by Adrianne Lenker

[poetbowie]

Drunk at a party (lol)

I'm gonna be honest...uhhh... idk I went based off vibes. Share headcanons, or thoughts and ideas with me about this or something else, I love getting asks about this show lol :]

(Side note: there's a lot of tags but im not tagging every single character 😭)

[https-rediation]

Canon Heights(???) & Carmen Sandiego

Hi all 👋

I've recovered from the month and a half I spent on the Carmen Sandiego timeline and am back to my regularly scheduled obsessing

Which has expanded to the characters and how tall they are because seriously how tall are they oml????

Now, I assume plenty of us have seen this image before:

You can find it on the Official Carmen Sandiego Facebook back from Oct 2019 (not sure about the Instagram or Twitter I'm too lazy to check)

It's widely been used as the canon basis for the character's heights, though I found myself unsure of its reliability

There have been a multitude of posts using the same "Your [Insert Topic Here] Your Carmen Sandiego Character" format, none of which seem to be canon to the show

The Zodiac and Birth Month ones actively contradict each other after all

And I can hear you saying "this really doesn't matter, this is ridiculous online person I don't know"

And you would be correct but I'm nothing if not a nerd so guess what I stumbled upon during my timeline rewatch

Boom

Directly from the show, Graham's mugshot. This is a very frustrating image to be honest because if you look closely between the 5 and 6 foot mark there are 10 lines as opposed to the 12 there should be corresponding to each inch

But oh! There's another image with his mug shot!

This one has no numbers.

So I did what any sane person would do and resorted to math

First I took Chief's image and deleted her from existence, leaving only Graham

Then I undistorted the photo so that it properly lined up with the flat version Bellum displayed so I would know where the foot markers would line up

These were 14 notches apart. Equally unhelpful. So I accepted my fate and pulled out the pixel measurements. Between the 5 foot and 6 foot line was 405 pixels

Between the 5 foot mark and Graham's head was 358 pixels

Using this very simple equation

[A (px) / B (px)] * B (in) = A (in)

We can find out how tall Graham is

358/405 * 12 = 10.61

Round that up to 11 inches and add the 60 inches that makes up 5ft we get a resounding height of 5'11" (or 179 cm)

(if you're confused on why the math works, we know that 405 pixels = 12 inches, we're looking to find what 358 pixels out of that 405 is which is why we multiply that fraction by 12. 405/405 times 12 would equal 12, same idea applies to 358/405. I hope this makes sense.)

For the rest of the characters we can use this lovely height chart

You can find this chart on the Official Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter (I checked). They're separated into individual photos, I just lined them all up into one big one here, it has been unaltered otherwise.

Using the same formula the character's heights are as such (rounded up or down accordingly by the decimals):

Coach Brunt: 6'10" (208 cm)

Countess Cleo: 6'6" (197 cm)

Boris: 6'6" (198 cm)

Male A.C.M.E. Agent: 6'4" (194 cm)

Cookie Booker: 6'4" (193 cm)

Chief: 6'4" (192 cm)

Shadowsan: 6'4" (192 cm)

Le Chevre: 6'3" (190 cm)

Devineaux: 6'3" (190 cm)

Prof. Maelstrom: 6'2" (187 cm)

Zack: 6'1" (186 cm)

Agent Zari: 6'0" (182 cm)

Mime Bomb: 5'11" (180 cm)

Crackle: 5'11" (179 cm)

Carmen: 5'10" (177 cm)

Tigress: 5'10" (177 cm)

Ivy: 5'10" (177 cm)

El Topo: 5'6" (168 cm)

Vlad: 5'7" (171 cm)

Julia: 5'8" (172 cm)

Teenage Carmen: 5'5" (166 cm)

Dr. Bellum: 5'3" (159 cm)

Player: 5'4" (162 cm)

Child Carmen: 3'10" (117 cm)

Kid Carmen: 2'6" (77 cm)

What does this mean? Either the cast of Carmen Sandiego is ridiculously tall or this is all vaguely nonsense

Regardless of my dubious findings I thought it was fun and might as well post what I had

The chart itself does have some merit though, using Carmen's 5'7" that is listed in the Facebook post as a basis you get these heights instead:

Coach Brunt: 6'7" (200 cm)

Countess Cleo: 6'2" (189 cm)

Boris: 6'3" (190 cm)

Male A.C.M.E. Agent: 6'1" (186 cm)

Cookie Booker: 6'1" (186 cm)

Chief: 6'0" (184 cm)

Shadowsan: 6'0" (184 cm)

Le Chevre: 6'0" (182 cm)

Devineaux: 6'0" (182 cm)

Prof: Maelstrom: 5'11" (180 cm)

Zack: 5'10" (178 cm)

Agent Zari: 5'9" (175 cm)

Mime Bomb: 5'8" (173 cm)

Crackle: 5'8" (172 cm)

Carmen: 5'7" (170 cm)

Tigress: 5'7" (171 cm)

Ivy: 5'7" (170 cm)

El Topo: 5'3" (161 cm)

Vlad: 5'5" (164 cm)

Julia: 5'5" (165 cm)

Teen Carmen: 5'3" (159 cm)

Dr. Bellum: 5'0" (153 cm)

Player: 5'1" (156 cm)

Child Carmen: 3'8" (113 cm)

Kid Carmen: 2'5" (74 cm)

This one feels slightly less outlandish, but really Player is still stuck at 5'1" as a 16 year old so how realistic can it be

I hope someone enjoyed my ramblings, however inconclusive they may have been 🙌

[carsandenjoyer]

Yo, I couldn't find Le Chèvre's sketch-to-screen anywhere, so I dug for it on Insta, figured I should share them all here in case someone else is also looking for them. + some other concept art that could be interesting :)

Carmen:

sources: baby child+baby grown outfits

You can find lots more Carmen here and here

Other characters are under the cut!

Player:

emo... hoodie

Zack + Ivy:

sketch-to-screen

Shadowsan:

sketch-to-screen explorations (yes the little one is him, he was small....)

VILE members:

Le Chèvre El Topo Mimebomb That Australian Cunt

Tigress:

sketch + early concept art where she has a bike helmet? she's up on the bridge.

another with the helmet, she's in the corner :), Chase is in the other corner- and see that little business-person roughly in the centre? My guess is that's Julia. I have no evidence for this except vibes.

Paperstar:

sketch-to-screen , the other 2

Faculty:

Coach Brunt Dr Bellum Professor Maelstrom Countess Cleo

Brunt's design is based off Eartha Brute from the gameshow + in early concept art she is referred to as Eartha Brute.

Bellum and Maelstrom have counterparts in the 1990's cartoon, Gunnar is called Unnar in concept art? What? Who stole his G? and Bellum didn't have the 'i' in Saira yet.

Cleo? in concept art she is refered to as Contessa, + Contessa is a character from the gameshow

VILE Isle:

sketch-to-screen

If VILE Isle interests you I'd recommend checking out this folio, and these for some backgrounds

Cookie Booker The Cleaners

ACME:

Chief Julia Argent Chase Devineaux

Chief is based off all the chiefs, but gameshow chief in particular if I remember correctly.

Julia and Chase both have counterparts from games!

Lastly and Leastly, these guys

why do these guys have development and not like. Neal... or Dash Haber?.... or anything for season 3/4 please. please.

ok bai