#shard odium

[lamaery]

Shard Roller Disco: Roshar RoW edition What is he skating to? Ironically? Unironically? This

More Shard Roller Disco AU: Roshar Cultivations, Honor and Odium Nalthis Endowment Sel and Scadrial Devotion, Dominion, Preservation and Ruin Scadrial 2 Preservation and Harmony First of the Sun and Taldain Autonomy Threnody Ambition Roshar 2 (row spoilers) Odium Roshar 3 Bonus Dawnshard (spoilers) Roshar 4 (wat spoilers) Retribution Roshar 5 (WaT spoilers) Honor Dawnshard Bonus 2 (WaT and Sunlit spoilers)

[moon-andstardust]

[butwhybother]

Goldilocks and Three Bears,

But it's Dalinar and the Three Shards.

[butwhybother]

Vorin theology is a little strange sometimes. People often conflate the Almighty with Honor, or the Stormfather, or heralds, or Jezrien, etc. It doesn't help that he had other names to go by, too-- Elithanathile, or He Who Transforms.

And here's this bit from Shallan, when asked how she would react if the Almighty himself appeared to her:

"I suspect with screams of pain .... As it is written that the Almighty's glory is such that any who look upon him would immediately be burned to ash." (The Way of Kings chapter 7)

She's not making it up, this is a piece of actual Vorin theology. It sounds to me like Vorins are conflating the Almighty with Odium.

[butwhybother]

"Becoming a god did not, unfortunately, increase one’s mental capacity along with one’s physical attributes." -Warbreaker, chapter 22.

That means the Five Scholars were very smart people to begin with (before Returning).

People's mental issues (depression, addiction, etc.) not being magically healed away by Investiture has been addressed in Stormlight Archive, also. Physical issues get healed, though (eyesight, injuries, etc.).

And also in Stormlight Archive, remember how, the more we got to see of Rayse/Odium, the less smart he seemed? Also, remember Taravangian, who prayed for "capacity"? And how his wish was answered by having his mental capacity fluctuate?

[butwhybother]

There was only one Dalinar Kholin.

And all the Shards wanted him.

"I want him," Odium muttered.

"But I want him!" Honor objected.

"No, I want him." Cultivation declared.

"Oh please, do you even know him? Didn't you just send a bunch of generic 'help wanted' ads?" Odium accused, to Honor.

"I did," Honor answered, "but I definitely want specifically him now."

"I've been working on this one for a long time, and I'm not about give up all my hard work!" Odium argued.

"You're not the only one who knows how to play the long game, Odium," retorted Cultivation. "I've had my eyes on this one, too."

A long, seething silence followed.

"Ahem, how about this?" Cultivation suggested. "We'll let him pick whose influence he'll follow."

"Kill. Murder. Feel the passion," Odium goaded, whispering into Dalinar's ear.

"Unite them," Honor practically yelled into Dalinar's other ear.

"Get a trim," insisted Cultivation, proceeding to cut Dalinar's memories way shorter than just 'a trim.'

"That's cheating!" Cried Odium, "You touched him directly, that's not just influencing!"

"Oh yeah?" Shouted Cultivation, "And haven't you been messing with his feelings? Is that not cheating?"

"I've been sending him visions in his head," confessed Honor. "I think we need to admit we've all been inside him."

"Be my champion!" Odium commanded.

"Unite them!" Honor urged again, apparently out of original things to say.

"Grow!" Cultivation ordered.

The Shards kept bickering over Dalinar Kholin. There was no part of his life that was not altered, manipulated, or otherwise soiled by their influence.

[butwhybother]

"Never use emotional Allomancy on an obligator. They're all trained to recognize when their passions are being manipulated." Mistborn the final empire, chapter 3, emphasis added.

I find it a little suspicious that "passions" was used here instead of "emotions." Like it could be a hint at a future conflict against a god of passion, maybe.

Marsh could be Scadrial's first (or last?) line of defense in Cosmere Wars. This is the guy who kept his identity and will even under the direct influence of Ruin. He'll know when his feelings are being touched again. Maybe he could even train others to recognize the touch and resist it.

Help us, Marsh, you're our only hope.

[butwhybother]

Soothers can Soothe one's emotions away.

Odium can also take one's emotions away.

A Mistborn can control the koloss with a powerful Soothing.

Odium also seems to use the emotionless state as a way to control others?