#shrek 2

[lyndellebelle]

In light of recent events I feel obligated to make this

[dreamyolk]

I’m watching Shrek 2 (as one does) and I realized that if the Happily Ever After potion turned both you and your true love into the most idyllic form then what would the dragon have turned into? Because donkey turned into a white horse but I somehow doubt that that would be the same for the dragon. Idk I just think the interspecies relationship would still be interspecing…

[fandomfrogger]

Thinking about Fiona from shrek rn. About to info dump so I'm putting a cut off here so you don't have to scroll 9 years if you don't care

She was cursed and then shamed for her ogre half, growing to believe that the deplorable actions of others were excusable because she was a "hideous monster" during the night

she was then abandoned by her parents to be locked in a tower in complete isolation at roughly 10-13 years old, unable to escape because there was a giant fire breathing dragon and moat of lava surrounding her. Again. Purposely by her parents

She was groomed before that to believe that she was going to be rescued by and married to prince charming(fairy God mother's son) by her parents and fairy God mother so hard her toys, her diary, the things fairy godmother tried to make her feel better about when she first saw fiona crying in her room again(indicating that this worked at some point in her youth) all revolved around it.

In the 1st movie she has a very cut and clear picture of what her rescuing should look like. When shrek falls in, she immediately fixes her dress and position to a sleeping beauty style (even pursing her lips because she expects a kiss) preparing for what she's been raised for.

Her immediate qualm with shrek is that he doesn't rescue her "properly" as she was led to believe her prince charming would. She is at first stunned that he just shook her awake and dragged her down the stairs with 0 fairy tale stuff, then aggravated that he didn't slay the dragon either and plans instead to just drag her and his "ass" top speed willy nilly away from the very creature that's kept her imprisoned for years.

When they escape the dragon she recovers a bit of hope for her expectations and chalks it up to "hes a mess but he's my savior so I guess this is right" and tries to return to her script by asking to see his face so she can kiss him. Shrek says he isn't her type and she responds with "of course you are, you're my rescuer" and pushes him until he complies.

When he does, him being an ogre makes her start to spiral because her ogre half is the reason for all this tower business anyway and she's sure as hell not supposed to be rescued by one. shrek explained he was 1. Not her prince charming 2. An ogre, and 3. just there to deliver her to some guy named farquad. she became distressed again that the situation wasn't "right" and tried to insist on her expectation of being rescued by her true love "if he wants to rescue me properly I'll be waiting right here"

After shrek grabs her and she finishes protesting, donkey asks how to turn down a girl he isn't interested in and she says "just tell her she's not your true love" because that's all she's been taught matters in a relationship.

and she tries to defend him despite not knowing him "you're just jealous you can never measure up to what a great leader farquad is" she tries everything in her power to stick to the script she's been promised as it unravels around her.

She insists on this right up to not letting shrek the ogre see her turn into an ogre, instead insisting on making camp.

The first real turning point in her mindset is when she overhears shrek talk about his experiences of being discriminated against as an ogre, and the following morning she attempts to show gratitude for her rescue by making food because he may not be her true love, but she can relate to the ogre part, and how he isn't evil or awful, just tired of being rejected.

His comment that people judge him before they know him gives her the confidence to be "unlady like" around him. Belching, fighting, making a balloon animal out of a snake, grabbing his ass when he held the tree down for her to cross, pushing him around as a joke, eating roasted field rats, using a spider web to clear the flies and then licking her fingers after giving it to shrek to eat.

She has clearly been left to her own devices long enough to have explored her ogre tendencies. She has been away from the princess conditioning and allowed to be herself in the isolated tower for several years, leading to the exposure of the more brash personality that overtakes her princess act several times with shrek before she allows herself to drop it willingly even before knowing he was an ogre.

As the movie progresses she loses more and more of her proper princess demeanor and instead embraces the ogre behaviors she was taught to be ashamed of. She enjoys the freedom of expression shrek allows so much that she extends the trip an extra night to be with him.

Yet during the night when donkey discovers her ogre form, his reaction helps to dredge up her shame and self hatred. She talks about how unlovable her ogre half is "who could love a hideous beast?" Shes been so conditioned to hate and look down upon her ogre half that shrek thought she was talking about him the way other people had. She doesn't seem to see herself as human with an ogre curse as much as a secret ogre. She sees the ogre as so bad that it doesn't matter she was born a princess in a royal kingdom because of it. It's her whole identity, and she's just as deplorable as a natural ogre in her mind.

The internalized feelings lead to both of them being hurt by the assumption that the opposite party rejected their ogre identity. Hurt because they were both opening up for the first time in a long time, they try to return to the way they both behaved in the beginning.

But it's different now because they've both expanded their horizons. Fiona's reminded that she can't just get rid of her ogre and her shame pushes her to put the veil over her face even though she would have been thrilled at the beginning to finally be getting married.

When shrek comes back, she's excited to see him despite the falling out. Seeing farquads reaction makes her fully second guess her training enough to reveal her ogre form and see who her true love really was. Farquad tried to have her locked up for the rest of her life, and shrek broke the curse and told her she was beautiful.

In the second movie, she seems to have really leaned into being an ogre. She freely expresses herself with him, and clearly enjoys their honeymoon, even when they scare off two children and she has to fling a mermaid off of shrek.

When the procession comes to summon her, she regresses immediately as if forgetting all that had been said and done to her before shrek. She hasn't seen her parents in probably a decade as a preteen/teenager. She can't remember all those things they said and did, probably just hundreds of homesick nights missing them, hating herself as the perceived reason she had to leave them, waiting, hoping, and praying for prince charming to bring her back to mommy and daddy free of the curse that made them abandon her.

she wants their love back. She knows shrek is her true love even though he's an ogre. So is she, and she expects them to see their daughter fulfilled her destiny and welcome her back with everything she spent years fantasizing about. Shrek is worried about the obviously problematic ogre but, but she rejects this with "they're my parents, they love me"

it isn't until the painfully silent welcome celebration, the dinner, and the argument with shrek that she breaks down and realizes that it isn't going to work out how she thought. They hate shrek, her true love. And by extension they hate the parts of her she's now comfortable expressing around shrek. She isn't what they want her to be and she'll never belong here. She eventually comes to terms with it enough to realize the best thing is for her and shrek to leave and go back to "where they belong" in the swamp.

Shrek is somewhat blind to the signs of her grooming because he has been so overwhelmed with insecurity and shame since he got there that he attempts every possible thing to make things work with Fiona's parents. He sees the posters, the toys, the diary filled with in real time documentation of her mind as her parents groomed and abandon her, and feels so bad he inadvertently ends up delaying their return to the swamp by turning them both human.

Now back to that diary. The first page shows that she missed out on certain social experiences because of her father restricting her to the castle at night to keep her curse secret. The fairy godmothers first song also hints at how despite being a princess she felt insecure enough to yearn for something like starting a fashion trend. Lonely enough to wish for furniture friends and a dog. She just didn't get much but locked up.

The second shows that she wasn't told much about being locked in the tower. Not why, not how long. The only thing she got was from the third when she was told that when she was old enough she'd be rescued by a prince, share true loves kiss, and live happily ever after. She appears to have already been in the castle at this point. After that she stops writing anything besides Mrs Fiona charming, fixating on him as the 1 and only solution to her problems. It's what kept her going.

Hate for her curse, yearning for her savior. 365 days a year, enough years for her to grow out of coloring Mrs Fiona charming in her diary. Every teenage meltdown, crisis. All her fear, rage, and misery echoing through the crumbling castle she was left in with no one to hear it or care.

Ive both been and seen lonely teenagers enough to know that isolation with your own mental illness and trauma tears you apart on the inside in an endless cycle of pain. All those worries become beliefs, and all the resulting pain becomes how real life is, leaving you nothing but imagination and delusion to carry you through.

Fiona's delusion was prince charming. She fantasized about being rescued and becoming Mrs Fiona charming, the daughter her parents always wanted. The happily ever after.

In the third movie it's shown that had shrek not rescued her, she would have spent more time alone in the tower until she gave up hope that she would ever be rescued.

Accepting her parents had abandoned her and running away on her own, It was clear she was and still is at the time shrek meets her, full of rage and resentment for them.

She has rejected her human form, and helps other ogres to resist attacks against people who seek to harm them. She has a brash and short fused personality, lacking the unsureness and naivety she had in the first movie. It takes a long time for her to warm up to shrek. It isn't until the very end of the movie as he's about to disappear from reality that she kisses him.

I can't remember any more I wanted to yap Abt at the moment but I'm sure I'll add as I remember.

Honorable mention: her father's internalized self hatred at being born a frog and his fear of being reverted to his true form and abandoned by the queen he loved should he not follow the fairy godmothers directives.

All that in relation to his daughter being cursed to become a beast at night and the resulting projected desire to hide and suppress it while grooming her to be as pliable as possible in keeping to fairy God mother's plan.

[masquerade-of-misery]

I'm watching a Shrek 2 parody video, and this is where I stopped it😂

It has insane meme potential, so feel free to use it :D

[bustermoonandsonicfan2022]

This isn't fair

[kstarlitchaotics]

rip Bonnie Tyler 😭🕊️

[izaspotats]

It’s so funny when u rmb how old jojos is bc tf u mean steel ball run started the year mean girls and shrek 2 came out😭😭

[guest-sh]

Of all the things that happened in Silverstone, Crofty mentioning Martin Brundle's disdain for the ending of Shrek 2 was definitely one of the craziest 😭