The endgame of Kimcom's polycule living in the same house and yoohankim's "triangular dynamic" are more polyam canon signs for Kim Dokja. I love these authors. We share the same vision. 🤭
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The endgame of Kimcom's polycule living in the same house and yoohankim's "triangular dynamic" are more polyam canon signs for Kim Dokja. I love these authors. We share the same vision. 🤭
I find it fascinating how much orv makes Kim Dokja and Yoo Joonghyuk live by the constraints of “reader” and “protagonist”. Like KDJ wants to see the ending but at the same time, he doesn’t and wishes the story would never end. Not simply because he loves this story but because he needs it like oxygen; TWSA gave him a purpose. He was its reader for 13 years and you notice KDJ never talks of what he’ll do after the scenarios until towards the end. There’s even a moment between him and Sangah where he ponders what he would’ve done if the novel never became reality. If he read the ending, closed his phone, and went back to his apartment. He contemplates if he would’ve killed himself, KDJ knows at least the sad truth that he wouldn’t have befriended Sangah. He’d never reconciled with his mother, he was getting laid off from his job in two days. From 15 to 28 TWSA was the only lifeline he had so think about it. What becomes of a reader when the story is over? One can discern, based on SP and OD’s conclusion, it is to find a new story. But Kim Dokja couldn’t bear to do that. To continue on, he needed to be a reader.
Lee Sookyoung wrote her novel to gain income for KDJ’s living but also to paint herself as the murderer. To sink the lie into KDJ’s head that she was the one wielding the knife. If the traumatized 12-13 years old Kim Dokja knew he killed his father by accident and his mother took the fall for him, KDJ would’ve killed himself. No doubt the guilt would kill him so LSK felt as though she had to do this. So that KDJ’s self-hatred would be aimed at her instead. She made her son a reader of his own life. It temporarily saves him, gives him some time but KDJ is still given a label “a son of a murderer”. His trauma was publicized and hyperfocused on, he was bullied excessively for it. That book is one of the factors that led to his first suicide attempt. So it doomed him.
HSY wrote TWSA to keep Kim Dokja alive. A desperate attempt to save a kid with one foot prepared to leap off a cliff. What else could she have done? She created characters that KDJ could aim his self-hatred at: Kim Namwoon, Anna Croft, the constellations, Nirvana. She made him a reader of a character’s life. Made him inject YJH’s essence through his veins like an IV drip. Of course, Kim Dokja wants Yoo Joonghyuk to be happy in the end. That is the main driving force between so many decisions he makes but where does leave him? The whole reason he attached himself to TWSA was because this protagonist was suffering too. But he kept on living round by round so surely, they could live through their shitty lives together. If the TWSA ended on that train, KDJ would truly be alone and might’ve killed himself. So what happens, the novel comes to life and gives him even more time. But because of that, later down the line KDJ will make the choice to become the Oldest Dream, a watcher for all eternity. Yes, KimCom’s world needed someone to dream for it to exist but even if that wasn’t necessary ... .do you think KDJ would have enjoyed a happily ever after discovering he was behind all their pain and tribulations? The guilt might’ve killed him, we saw some of that with his visceral reaction to OD. So it doomed him.
Kim Dokja has to be a reader.
Yoo Joonghyuk was created for Kim Dokja. This isn’t a shipping statement, this is just a fact. I think it’s foolish to believe that is all there is to his character, he’s his own individual and his journey throughout orv is keeping his autonomy and gaining agency. Outside of what he’s written to behave like or KDJ’s will for him. But his life’s purpose is to keep Kim Dokja alive. HSY wrote each of his regressions to save this one person. And this is where the 0th turn YJH comes in because he makes the decision to regress. He was happy in his world, that is true but he couldn’t truly rest because something was missing. Everything was idle, every day was peaceful after saving the world. But while yeah, KDJ was reading his story as always…he wasn’t being the protagonist. YJH needs to do something, he needs a goal to accomplish so he gives himself one. He regresses for three reasons: To meet his sponsor aka his reader Kim Dokja. To find out his purpose, what he was made for….which is to save Kim Dokja. And finally to fulfill his sense of self which is being a protagonist. Reaching self actualization and being an active force in the world around him. So fast forward when Kim Dokja’s fragments are scattered across the universe and the scenarios are over, why is it surprising that YJH falls into depression? Why is it surprising that he goes to HSY in the museum and seriously asks her to end his life? What becomes of a protagonist when there’s no one to read his story? What use is there for him? So of course he’ll be the one to venture on this suicide mission to space, hopping from one worldline to the next, grasping onto the fragile hope that KDJ can come home.
Yoo Joonghyuk has to be a protagonist.
How did the author even cook up orv??
like where the hell did the idea come from? a dream? thats way too creative. plus there's so little loopholes too. and the amount of foreshadowing shows that the story wasn't js writing and improvising (?)
Favorite BOOK about Books
Round 1
Mary Anne and the Haunted Bookstore (Ann M. Martin) VS Omniscient Reader's Viewpoint (Sing Shong)
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Propaganda under the cut
Spoilers for the orv novel: The way YOOHANKIM and how they correlate in terms of kids always makes me emotional
Warnings: violence, spoilers, su1c1d3. Read at your own risk
Thinking about how Kim Dokja is soft towards children. How he saved Lee Gilyoung when he could have simply taken the bugs, even if it’s hypocrisy in his eyes. How he didn’t leave him behind even when Gilyoung told him he could. How he acknowledged his he child who survived in Guemo station. How he knew Yoosoung would be a catastrophe and still didn’t want her to die, making her his incarnation and forgiving the 41st round Shin Yoosoung
and making THAT Yoosoung his daughter. Aswell as when he announced to the world before the final scenario that he wouldn’t be saving the people, only decided to provide them comfort that Yoo Joonghyuk would save them when he noticed a child who seemed afraid.
Thinking about how Han Sooyoung never hesitated to kill anyone, like with Shin Yoosoung, despite it being a child. Especially if it meant saving the world, she was no hero, but if she saw a way to prevent a calamity she wouldn’t hesitate.
How 1863 Han Sooyoung also didn’t hesitate for the deaths of children, how she told YJH of 1863 to let Mia die. How she was willing to destroy that world line solely to get home, taking the lives of many children with it.
Thinking about Yoo Joonghyuk who was already a “parent” raising his little sister. How noticeable it was for him to be soft with her, but also him in the 1863 who allowed her to die. That’s not saying he stopped loving her, it was her death in that round that made him go more mad, but he was at a breaking point, and perhaps Mia could be at peace and no longer had to die. Also him willing to kill Shin Yoosoung, another child who was once an ally, be it her future or past. Him who also was thinking about killing Lee Gilyoung at the beginning upon learning about his sponsor. He never hesitated putting those kids in danger he knew they could handle, and wouldn’t hesitate to kill children for the greater good.
Thinking about SP who also was at his limit but never once stopped loving Mia, how he longed to be with her again in that ball he was stuck in, but never could truly meet her. How he had compassion for that boy in his train car and how he tried to save him, knowing that he would still die, and thus he would kill everyone in that car, regardless of it being a child or an adult.
Thinking how all of those patterns go out of the window when they meet Yoo Joonghyuks sponsor, who was also a child…a pitiful one at that.
Thinking how Kim Dokja would have done everything to save that child, how he would have found any loophole, and making sure that child would be cherished and loved.
Thinking how none of that happens and he tries to kill the child, how the child called him a monster. How he has nothing but hatred for that child to the point where upon using the disconnected film theory he tried to slice his own neck. How he solely was thinking about a blade either to end his own life or that child’s life. How he was yelling for the child to be killed as he was being held back. Why?
because that child was him, and his future was being a monster.
How Yoo Joonghyuk who never hesitated to kill children for the greater good, refused to kill the oldest dream despite it resulting in the end of the scenarios. He held hatred for constellations, especially his sponsor who granted his stigma, and yet stopped Dokja from killing himself. Grabbing the broken blade so hard as he calls for the rest of the company to help him.
How SP wanted nothing more than FOR CENTURIES to kill his sponsor, the sole reason for his suffering, and so that he could finally die. How he forgave his sponsor so quickly upon seeing that it wasn’t the evil sadistic puppeteer he believed he was for centuries, but a child who loved his story with all his heart, a child who needed his story to survive. How he called him a pitiful child and rather then wanting the death he dreamed of, he chose to live, and would be willing to regress if it meant to make his sponsor happy.
How Han Sooyoung who never hesitated to kill children for the greater good, or for herself and yet, she punches Dokja just as he was about to strike the child with the blade, how she was crying while punching his body not out of hatred for him being partially the reason for the scenarios, but because he wanted to kill his past self. How she was grabbing him with Yoo Joonghyuk to stop him, trying to tell the oldest dream that they just wanted to talk and not hurt him, and how she was crying, trying to stop the plotter when they assumed he wanted to kill the child. How she reprimanded Yoo Joonghyuk from strangling Kim Dokja who was in a child form, with saying that it’s still a child.
1863 Han Sooyoung who wanted to stop TWSA from being published to prevent the scenarios, only to become the author of the book when she saw Kim Dokjas 15 year old self in a hospital bed after trying to end it all. How she recalled from a memory, regardless of it being hers or the original bodies, how Dokja said that the story saves his life. How she knew that millions of people would die, yet wanted to save him. How she didn’t care and only thought about that small child on the bed, how she knew her mental state would be rid of, and thus she forgot, as it all faded into the subconscious of the real body.
Thinking about how regardless of which of the three it is, their moralities and goals will bend solely when it comes to Kim Dokja, because while YooHan had the ability to stop the scenarios and their own suffering they chose to continue suffering for the sake of Kim Dokja and that little child who unintentionally doomed the world. Their correlation with children vs. The most ancient dream is the biggest proof one has. This isn’t me saying that they are child killers (YooHan), though if one had no context then they would assume so, but I just can’t get over the parallels with them and the children that are significant towards them.
“Kim Dokja!" …It was as expected. Yoo Joonghyuk caused a huge cloud of dust as he ran over and grabbed my neck. He shook me like a man betrayed. I flapped like a paper doll without strength and said, "Let me speak." "Shut up! What the hell are you thinking? Selling the techniques…!" "Please calm down. I did it because of you." "…What?" "Don't you know what we just got?" Yoo Joonghyuk's hands stopped for the first time at my words. Then a message came to my ears. [A new sub scenario has arrived!] [The sub scenario 'Martial Arts Competition' has begun.] Yoo Joonghyuk read the details of the scenario that just arrived and was silent for a moment. "…The Black Heavenly Demon Sword?" "Yes. You said you wanted it." "…" "If you look closely, there is also the Demon Spirit Bead. It is the third place prize but I don't remember well…" Yoo Joonghyuk's eyes were greatly shaken as he watched me. He suddenly released me. This jerk, you didn't need to be so moved.
– Omniscient Reader’s Viewpoint – Chapter 234: Ep. 44 - Swindler, II
If there’s one thing I’m gonna do, it’s consume oddly similar pieces of media
My Love Letter to Omniscient Reader's Viewpoint
From ever since I could remember, I loved reading novels. Without a doubt, I would not be here or who I am today without them. The first incredible amount of happiness I felt was when reading a book. I don't remember the first time, but I know I was really young when I entered the land of stories. They were my life. They will always be my life.
Reading and writing are the reasons I exist. When I'm not lost in a story, I'm most likely daydreaming. Daydreaming about every character I hold close to my heart. These characters, these stories, have shaped me. They taught me how to dream, how to laugh, how to form my morals, and how to view life. They’ve shown me sorrow, pain, and joy. They are my brothers, my sisters, my parents, my saviors, my tormentors— they are every aspect of me.
So, anyone who’s read Omniscient Reader’s Viewpoint can understand the profound effect this beautifully maddening novel has had on me. I cried 53 times while reading it. I rarely cry. But I cried with happiness, sorrow, rage, grief, loneliness, emptiness, and joy. ORV has left an indelible impact on me, one I’ll carry forever. It has etched itself into my soul.
I read all the time. It’s what I do when I’m bored, anxious, terrified, happy, or even when I’m just existing. No matter the emotion or the state of mind I find myself in, reading has always been how I coped with everything. It’s my refuge, my sanctuary from the world. No matter what, I can always turn to the pages of a book. Through every word, every sentence, I find a way to step outside myself and into the worlds of others. In those moments, those stories become my reality. They are my constant companions, my safe space, the place where I can truly live. These characters and words are/were more real to me than my beating heart.
Kim Dokja… You are one of the coolest characters I’ve ever read about. I love every part of you— 1%, 3%, 15%, 49%, 51%— all of it. I’ve never related to a character so deeply that it became difficult to separate my own thoughts from his. Especially when he was on that subway, all alone during the epilogue. I clearly remember one line: "I even wondered if I became blind after reading a novel for far too long." That line made me laugh so hard because that was so familiar and also made me notice that it was around 5am and that I had stayed up all night with my phone glued to my face, unable to tear my eyes from even a single word.
Naturally, there were countless of lines that had me sobbing uncontrollably. The epilogue, in particular, both destroyed me and somehow brought me back to life all at once. And I've been thinking about these lines all day too:
- "That novel saved me. So, I should pay my debt to its protagonist."
- "That man is the world I wish to save."
- "That's not such a bad idea. Because a book needs a reader to be complete."
- "This guy, he never once missed writing a comment on all those thousands of chapters. And every single one contained understanding and love for the world created by this author."
- "Everytime she wrote a single chapter, Kim Dokja's life was extended by yet another day"
- "She thought about Kim Dokja beyond the computer screen, also getting older like her. Kim Dokja, who hadn't died, hadn't given up, and was still enduring his life."
- "The story would not end as long as someone was reading it."
- "She typed, and typed some more of this boring story. All the while expecting that... Without a doubt, one person would definitely get to read this story."
- "A person hiding within the small world crafted out of letters to protect himself was standing right there."
There was also a moment when Han Sooyoung revealed the reason she became an author, and it felt like she was speaking directly to me. I can’t remember the exact words, but the way it made me feel. It hit me so deeply. I ended up sobbing into my pillow for fifteen minutes straight. It’s one of those feelings/moments in a story that stays with you, even long after the words have faded. And there are hundreds of lines from Omniscient Reader that had me feeling that way.
I just finished the entire web novel today, and now I feel like I’m experiencing everything and nothing at the same time. But above all, I know that there’s one thing I have to say: Thank you. Thank you to the authors, Sing and Shong, for creating this extraordinary story, and thank you to Omniscient Reader’s Viewpoint for existing and becoming one of my realities that will never be erased as long as I am alive.
And now, I am going to reread everything again :D