Made the mistake of going to twitter again... smoshtwt once again hating on Damangela and Damien for no reason 🙄
They're still on their "Angela doesn't like Damien" bullshit. I saw someone talk about how they tried to get into Damangela just to spite people but then saw the karaoke stream and that's when they *had* to stop because it made them want to "throw up from embarrassment" because Angela moved away from him during their little part of their duet in Dancing Through Life?????
When will the antis learn that they are overanalyzing things just as much as we do. Like we say "oh they looked fondly at each other here I love how much closer they are :)" and we're the freaks but Angela was just into singing the song and moved away from Damien a bit and "omg how embarrassing for Damien and Damangela fans!! She HATES him!!!" like WE'RE ALL FREAKS HERE! We're ALL overanalyzing stuff to fit our narrative. And I mean I *do* feel like our overanalysis is at least a bit more accurate than theirs is lol but my god. Y'all need to touch grass and get a life.
Idk why they feel the need to bring Damien and Damangela up SO much if they really hate them that much. Like dude just focus on Amangela and Angela. Literally no one over there is talking about Damangela except people mocking them. I know you can say the same thing about me bringing up the antis because they don't really come over here that often (except to occasionally say that a damangela art or fanfic should've been amangela lol) but idc. At least I'm self aware about it 😭 They think they're sooo much better than us but at least I know I'm a little weird. Getting invested in ANY smosh dynamic is kinda weird. Damangela, Amangela, Ianthony, etc. etc.
Hopefully all the weird speculation about Damien and Courtney secretly disliking each other, or Courtney disliking Damien, or whatever weird speculation people cooked up will die down after the Smoshcast video. They clearly seem to be on good terms, and even if there is some sort of "animosity" between them, they're professional enough to not let it show on camera. I hope people can leave them both alone.
“Damien shouldn’t be trusted, he shouldn’t stand near Angela!” — a parasocial drama in the smoshtwt community! Here’s why:
Around late April 2025, specifically on April 23rd, three prominent Twitter accounts within the Smosh fan community (each with a large following) publicly shared their opinions regarding the relationship between Angela Giarratana and Damien Haas. For privacy, their usernames will not be referenced; instead, they will be referred to as (1), (2), and (3).
User (1) initiated the discussion with a tweet stating:
"for the record I do not think damien wants to be with angela like that. What I do think is that he wants to be good buds with her the way Courtney/amanda/etc are and that’s why he mentions her a bunch outside of smosh videos too but diva it's not working." followed by a broken heart emoji.
This tweet generated considerable attention, with many followers responding—some interpreting it as sarcasm, while others criticized the poster for being overly parasocial. The original poster did not engage with the replies and muted the notifications instead.
User (2), who is known for engaging with the “Damangela” pairing, posted: "that ~4 day span a few months ago when I tried to force myself to enjoy damangela purely out of spite for how mean everyone was being. Until I had to give up and succumb to the reality that damangela truly makes me feel like the walls are closing in around me I don’t know why” accompanied by crying emojis.
User (1) responded: "the way I’m kind of the opposite now where I used to just clown on them but now I feel like a beaten-down researcher trying to desperately understand this phenomenon. Like what are you seeing that I don’t I feel like I’m being gaslit.”
To which (2) replied: "see on an intellectual level I understand what people are seeing I just don’t understand how they aren’t also experiencing the dark sinister air around it. Like how does one derive positive emotions from whatever that is.”
(1) then added: “I’m at the point where I’m like yeah they’re work friends and it sure looks like damien wants to be even more close with her but also how do you also not feel like the room is getting darker”
These tweets began to receive wider attention, with others questioning the language used: “What do you mean the room is getting darker?” and “Dark sinister air? They’re just friendly coworkers.” sharing their confusions with the two users public discussion about the relationship.
User (3) entered the conversation by replying to (2):
"angela moving away from the duet in the karaoke stream really tickled my brain”
(2) responded: “that was literally the moment that made me give up I’m fucking crying” This was accompanied by a clip from a karaoke stream where Damien joins in on a duet. Angela then appears to distance herself, calling Amanda and Spencer back to the camera. (2) commented further: “genuinely I could throw up out of embarrassment it’s so… I should not have been privy to this moment.”
(3) replied: “I’m pretty sure damangelas have this blocked from their memories and I don’t blame them lmfao.”
At this point, the discourse took an inappropriate turn. The language used—phrases like “dark sinister” and “the room is getting darker”—to describe normal interactions between two coworkers, Damien and Angela, is disrespectful and speculative. Such comments imply that Damien's presence or behavior makes Angela uncomfortable or unsafe, which is an unfounded and harmful assumption.
It is important to recognize that these individuals are real people, and making such exaggerated or parasocial claims about their friendship or professional relationship is deeply inappropriate. We are not privy to the nature of their interactions outside of work or off-camera, and suggesting that Damien poses a threat based on selective moments is unjustified and unfair.
To Kaatja, if she'll even see this (because I've blocked her and do not plan on undoing it). You need to stop. I don't know how you have deluded yourself into justifying all of this and going as far and deep as you did in the first place.
You manipulated and hurt so many people in the process. Your behavior is disturbing and criminal. You mistake Damien's patience and kindness as weakness. You infantilize him at the same time that you accuse him of being an accomplice to whatever Chel's supposed crimes are. Your legacy is causing him so much stress and trauma that he was having panic attacks trying to just do his hobby and interact with his own community.
You did not, and do not, actually care about Damien. A healthy, compassionate person does not justify manipulating and harassing dozens of people around someone you supposedly care about. You don't see that person in tears BEGGING you to stop and decide they're actually in the wrong if you supposedly care about them. You are treating him like an object to be controlled.
This is not "doing the right thing". You are not helping anyone. You are not fixing anything. You are not proving anything. You are endulging in toxic, self destructive behavior. You don't even feel shame enough to apologize. I don't care what is and isn't true about Chel but it's VERY clear that you, out of everyone that could possibly be connected in this clusterfuck, have the biggest trail of harm, chaos and emotional destruction. Maybe that's what you really wanted in the end. To be ground zero of all of these people's lives.
....bro....keep me and my wives names out your mouth lmao like what? this was all you boo- you flew off the handle and said awful shit. you described real horrible things that happen to people and wished it upon people you don't know- and for what?? plus the guy THATS YOUR PFP? so please don't drag us into this ffs.
Ofc most people who think damien is a monster are under 25. Their view of morality is skewed. Also can you even explain how he was being passive agressive? Cuz i read all his tweets and dont see it. But i am a stupid autist so what do i know..
Ok, I got two of these asks so I'm going to answer from my POV what I'm seeing. First of all, a shot at my age is very mature for introducing your argument (this is sarcasm). I never said that Damien is a monster. I am not demonizing him. Damien is admittedly one of my favourites on Smosh, and I think as fans, we are allowed to identify when someone you are a fan of does something wrong. I stated in my previous reblog that how he handled his interactions with Zayna was poor. You are putting words in my mouth, but I digress. My long-winded explanation of Damien's interactions being passive-aggressive is under the cut.
I'm going to straight up pull the Google search of 'passive aggressive' here.
Expressing negative feelings indirectly instead of openly talking about them. There are multiple instances of it in the interactions with Zayna and others in my opinion. However, I feel that people have different takes on passive-aggressiveness, so feel free to share with me what you think being passive-aggressive looks like. The points I will describe below are my interpretations of situation.
1) I think the most abundant example of passive-aggressiveness is Damien blocking multiple accounts, escpecially Zayna after he had apologized. Blocking someone implies you do not want to hear or see someone's thoughts on your timeline, literally blocking them out (until you choose to unblock them). He is not open to communicating further with people or does not want to communicate with them at all. I understand how this can be seen as him looking out for himself, but generally, blocking is considered a negative action, thus the action is passive-aggressive. Damien blocked some people on Twitter who have not even interacted with Damien nor even said anything remotely negative about him. Here is one such example:
I call this passive-aggressiveness due to the lack of communication with Damien and the negative context of blocking multiple accounts. It is providing more tension and confusion to others without explaining anything. We see the result of this lack of communication with the Twitter user above as it leaves something to be explained, the other party wondering, "What did I do wrong?" This is especially upsetting in the case of Zayna as reaching an apology with someone should not result in another person blocking another. I will expand on this idea below.
2) In Damien's interactions with Zayna, the passive-aggressiveness is much worse. Anon, I want you to imagine you are in a situation where someone has apologized to you. An apology is reached when one party realizes they have done wrong and acknowledges that the other party is correct in some way. It is an agreement.
Here is an interaction chain between Zayna and Damien, after their initial confrontation. It appears they have reached a common ground or the agreement I aforentioned. Unfortunately, the original reaction from Damien and the original post that Zayna had requested Damien for an apology are deleted, and I do not have that screenshotted, so we will go with what evidence I have here.
First tweet with an apology, third sentence: "While I'll never understand looking to old content to somehow negate the present, I do apologize, plain and simple."
Here, his apology is mixed - there's tension. If he truly understands the need for an apology, why mention the quote I highlighted above? In an apology, would you appreciate it if the other party apologized, but stated that they don't quite understand why they are apologizing? No. I wouldn't be satisfied with that, and you shouldn't either if you are expecting an apology. He could have ended the apology with the first few sentences. To me, it feels like a half-hearted apology given his choice of words in his third and fourth sentences.
Compare the previous apology to the second image on the right. Damien agrees that he is in the wrong here and essentially will learn from his mistakes. This is an apology with no conflict or passive-aggressiveness. There are no conflicting ideas within this tweet, unlike the previous apology on the left.
By this point, it seems that Zayna and Damien have reached a common ground and the conversation is over. This changes with the next tweet Damien sends on the left image:
Here, Zayna is replying to the deleted tweet on the left. I think this, above all, is a good example of Damien being passive aggressive because:
3) it's a direct display of miscommunication, where Damien outlines his unmet expectations of the interaction post-apology. This tweet contains a critique towards Zayna "If that wasn't your goal [depicting Damien as a bad person], your methods confuse me tbh" followed by a positive end note that comes off as strange given his opening statement. It feels like a backhanded compliment. Zayna got what she requested (an apology) but Damien is questioning her methods and even requesting something from her (Damien implies he wants tweets to be deleted after apologizing). And then he wishes her family and herself well? Do you see how this doesn't quite add up?
This could be genuine confusion on Damien's side, but given that both parties before this appeared to have reached a consensus of some sort, I don't think this is the case. Damien prolongs the conflict; he continues the conversation with Zayna, having expectations for what he envisions the resolution of the argument to be. This was not communicated to Zayna as demonstrated in her reply and she is rightfully confused. This is very weird – why is Damien, who has apologized, now provoking Zayna again if the conversation has ended? If Damien wanted to resolve this more directly, he could have also reached out in direct messages rather than continuing this publicly on Twitter just as he states in his tweet.
4) this is more about the dramatic irony of the situation, but I think it is also Damien being passive-aggressive – the 19k followers comment. This really puzzled me. Damien pointing out the follower count of Zayna and stating that she is depicting him as a bad person is exactly what Damien is doing as well by continuing the conversation in the way he did. He adds fuel back to the fire implying this conversation is not over as Zayna did not resolve his apology (... but shouldn't he take responsibility for this issue if he is apologizing for it?) to his liking. Damien has 266k followers on Twitter as of the last time I checked, and (I want to believe this) unknowingly has depicted Zayna in the wrong by exposing his followers to this. Additionally, In a previous tweet, Damien said he would learn from reacting in frustration. I think this again is him doing exactly that, reacting in frustration with this tweet but then deleting the tweet after. His actions are backtracking upon himself.
Now, to address something else but on the same topic: I'm not sure if you are aware, but Zayna has said she received death threats from Damien / Smosh fans. See below.
I bring this up because you mentioned that my view of morality is skewed. At what point in any of the arguments in this post or what I reblogged, have I earned the title of broken moral compass? Again, I have not once stated he is a monster in my posts. This is you interpreting my words, Anon.
I am trying to defend my opinion on how I see that Damien's interactions with Zayna have been handled poorly and that he was passive-aggressive, and it has resulted in this – death threats and a whole lot of controversy on multiple social media platforms. There's a lot of collateral damage that has been done within the Smosh community.
If death threats and Damien needing to take a Twitter break from an this interaction are not a great indication of a situation spiraling out of control as a result of Damien's responses, I'm not sure what else I can tell you, Anon. I hope I have made myself clear.
As a side note, I did not appreciate you coming into my asks, and insulting me without providing any arguments to your cause. If you continue to speak to me in the same manner, come off anon and let me block you (or vice-versa, block me). We will not see eye to eye with each other and never will if we cannot present our words without malice. It will be beneficial for both of us to not aggravate each other.
Before I end my answer, I want to reiterate that I do like Damien (personally less now given the situation at hand, but I digress), and I think you and I share this opinion at least. You are allowed to like something and be disappointed in it in tandem. I want him to come out of his break with a good answer for his actions. I hope he comes out of his Twitter detox with a clear mind and learns from this experience.
Anon(s) that sent this in, I hope that this answers your questions.
seeing multiple people completely disregard what anthony said he's comfortable with right now to try and push him back into the limelight where he specifically said he does not want to be right now is honestly really selfish. they know we want to see him and ian in stuff. they've mentioned it on LWS. but he was very clear where he's comfortable right now and to talk about essentially spamming everywhere they can see to try and get him to do what you want to see isn't cool.
a lot of people are making this about themselves when it has nothing to do with you. how anthony feels about himself and where he feels most comfortable is what's important. ya'll need to realize this is a hell of a lot of adjustment in just a year's time on top of the end of a three to four year relationship back around december. his life has changed a fuck ton in the past year. leave him be.
"Being at a company where there's so many dynamics of people, on camera, off camera, I feel like when I first thought of buying smosh back I just didn't realize how many people were behind the scenes contributing in the way that they are.
"It's been a learning process and I've learned that I like to be in the background and look out at the zoomed out picture of this company and it's also really cool to know that confirmation that it doesn't need me to thrive. I thought for a long time it would need me, or it would fail, if I took like, a single step back so now it gives me enough freedom to take a step back and empower everyone to do what they do best." -Anthony Padilla
