Movie poster by Reynold Brown for the 1966 Dutch release of the MGM motion picture Spinout.

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Movie poster by Reynold Brown for the 1966 Dutch release of the MGM motion picture Spinout.
I noticed you said before that in some of Elvis's movies, they tried to make fun of counterculture (such as the infamous yoga scene in Easy Come Easy Go).
You mentioned in one of the asks about Spinout that the sixties were a turning point for women's rights at that time, so I wonder if them trying to make Les (a contemporary woman by that decade's standards) into a joke (and her only really being happy at the end with marriage to a man) was them trying to send a message about how women won't be satisfied if they try to be too independent? Because it seems that way.
...I'm sorry, I'm probably not making any sense at all lol!
It makes perfect sense anon.
The writers (and they're surprisingly not always the same people but still men) seem bound to the status quo of society.
Even if society is marching on, not everyone marches along with it at the same rate. In the ECU, there's countless examples of subtle misogyny where women stay with Elvis despite the very glaring lack of compatibility. I say it's misogynistic because it comes down to the reality that most female characters do not have the same agency that Elvis or other male characters do.
In Les's case, the whole film relies on the status quo that as a woman she has to get married. Mike can be a bachelor all he wants while the women can not be anything but brides even when not all the pairings make sense. The scene where she glows up and kisses Mike ties back to the reality that she isn't given the same agency that Mike has. By this point, she was already moving on from him and going out with Officer Tracy.
I know it's all meant to be comedies therefore the ECU is not a good place to look for social commentary, but when watched with a modern lens the character writing betrays the implicit bias that existed in society at the time: women are meant to be the dutiful wife or partner lest they be comedically punished by the status quo.
But at the end of the day, I don't think every instance of this is meant to be a direct clap back to social movements but just bad character writing based in the agenda of making it all about Elvis. There's a reason why he eventually only had tv actors as supporting cast and it wasn't just because of the money.
I'm curious; are you a historian, or do you work in Hollywood yourself? I ask because you seem to have a lot of knowledge about films.
Neither I'm I guess you could say ironically an accountant. I just try to find something interesting about what will otherwise be a boring film to watch. Sometimes the points I make require research so I can accurately critique it. For example, me criticizing how Les was written in Spinout involved me searching for when women started to wear pants in their every day life. That's how I knew with more certainty that the whole joke about Les being mistaken for a man was very outdated even in 1966.
If I was a professional in that realm, I guess my official credit for Elvis films would be a script doctor. I might not be able to write an entire script from scratch, but I can look at worked for me and what didn't. Then I would write it so those flaws can be fixed. Which in some cases might as well end up with me writing a whole new script with how poorly written a film was.
Thanks for asking!
Okay, I know Elvis's movies weren't always the best in terms of plot, but...Spinout just confused me. I don't understand why these women all wanted to basically marry Mike on the spot. There's no sense of logic.
Les, I sort of understand, because she's presumably been with the band a long time and thus would know a lot of Mike's quirks and such; she'd obviously know him a bit better than the others.
But...I don't understand what makes Mike so attractive to the other two women. Yes, he's good-looking and sings well, but that's about it. Mike doesn't really have a stable job/ income, and he doesn't appear to have a stable place to live either as he's moving around a lot. I don't know about you, but those two things would seriously factor into who I choose to be my partner for the rest of my life. And I would want to know my partner's interests, quirks etc. before deciding to settle down with them.
This movie in particular just seems to have no logic.
Perhaps it's because modern women have more desires than just marrying a man to have a breadwinner. I honestly wonder what women in those days thought of this movie since the 1960s was a good transitional period for women's rights. Les feels like a contemporary woman, but she's treated as a joke.
It would've made sense if the movie is explaining why Mike is the perfect American male. Have him be chivalrous even when turning a woman down. Have him actually take interest in a woman's interests and accurately pair her up with a man who shares them.
The main fault is that Mike is so shallowly written that all you can say is:
Mike McCoy's Rank
Not even a shove was issued in Spinout. Mike will not get a rank.
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Here's something I never got in Spinout (and I think this is a recurring theme in any of Elvis's films where he has a woman chasing him without his consent); why couldn't Mike just tell these women "no?" Like, just be respectful, tell them something like "I'm flattered by your interest in me, and this has nothing to do with you as a person, but I have no desire to get married or be in a serious relationship right now." If they don't listen, get a restraining order.
So much of these movies' "conflicts" would be solved by the characters simply being straightforward with one another.
Also...maybe it's me, but when I first saw Phillip in Spinout, I thought it was William Shatner at first. I don't know, but to me, they seemed to have similar facial features.
It all stems back to the concept that men aren't victims. That a man cannot possibly be a victim to a woman's stalking or unwanted advances.
As much as the writers wanted to do something different by having Elvis stay single without dying, they likely didn't know how to fully buck the system. Elvis still has to flirt with these women so the target audience of teenage girls can still fantasize that this can be them.
What's going wrong is that Elvis is progressively getting on the wrong side of 30 so continuing to appeal to teenage girls just doesn't work. It either a. gets to the point where Elvis is really too old to comfortably appeal to them or, the teenaged girls grow up to become women and wouldn't have the same needs anymore.
At the same time, you had this strange family-friendly restraint when other films at the time were toeing the line more. So now you have a situation where in trying to appeal to everyone, no one's really winning. That's why you now have this sense of diminishing returns where yes Elvis still made money, but he wasn't growing. He stagnated until his core audience eventually moved on.
As for Phillip, I can't really comment on that since in my review I do mention that I'm not always great on recognizing people.
Tracy and Les were the only parts of Spinout that I really found interesting. The movie would've probably been better if they focused on them and their love of cooking. Or on the sweet old couple going on their second honeymoon; it'd have been interesting to see them rediscover their love for each other.
Yes, those two plot lines could've worked well together if the end goal was Mike realizing he could be a matchmaker.
In something that doesn't make sense, Colonel was the one who said no on making an autobiographical film so the writers felt stuck in a corner. I suppose because it was MGM, at the time Colonel might have had a little more sway in that if he didn't like something it wouldn't be in the movie.
Elvis of course still went along with it because he was still a guaranteed money maker and that was something he cared more about. "Why take a chance and risk losing out on 40% of the profits?"
A lose lose situation where sticking to what you know is receiving diminishing returns to the point where even outside writers don't know how to write Elvis formulaic vehicle scripts. You see it with Tickle Me where comedic writers can't write a formulaic Elvis romance to save their lives.
Spinout Review
Originally pitched as an autobiographical film, the idea was quickly tossed out after Colonel Parker vetoed it. Instead MGM would turn to Theodore Flicker (who eventually left the project for another film) and George Kirgo to write a script. Flicker leaving the project likely resulted in many previous story elements being repeated such as Elvis playing the singing racer a la Viva Las Vegas. Even various supporting cast members throughout the years would return.
With working titles such as "Never Say Yes, Never Say No", "The Singing Racing Car Driver", and surprisingly enough "Clambake" it was clear the film lacked an identity before Spinout was decided upon for the US release and "California Holiday" for the UK release. But does having an issue with titling the film bear any warning signs that the film is just as lacking in identity? Or will there be a unique interpretation on previously used storylines that buck the trend of Elvis films? Let's find out.