not adding it to the original post because it's a different tangent of a similar thought, of chuck's interference with jack, both before his birth and afterward... because i also have a lot of thoughts about this...
post i'm referring to is here, by scoobydoodean
but yes, i think chuck interfered wildly with jack through his whole story (and with billie to drive her to her desperate s15 plan, but that again is another completely different wild tangent of the same concept here, and i'll reserve yelling about that for later... or like... read some of my finale fix it fic i guess? lol)
ANYWAY. i think it was chuck activating the pain/fear response in jack when he was first exposed to "angel radio" in 13.01. and i don't know if i even registered that until he had a very similar response to his hallucinations of lucifer or whatever that was that hurt and scared him enough to lash out and kill mary in 14.17. because that wasn't jack's consistent, ongoing response to angel radio anywhere else in the series. that was definitely something different.
pushing and pushing to get his story, whatever it took













