#spn 4.02

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Dean Winchester | 4.02

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Episode 62: 4.02 Are You There, God? It’s Me, Dean Winchester

Aah, and episode where Dean doesn’t get any pie, but instead is handed an existential crisis! After wrestling with issues about his belief in angels and then God, he comes to the conclusion that if God is real, then he has to be a jerk, because why would he let all this awful stuff happen to people? And that is a very valid question.

Cas talks him through it in a way that provides zero comfort, and pretty much only makes things worse by confirming that the devil is also real and trying to escape. Also, the angels are gonna be relatively useless to Dean in trying to stop the devil from escaping... >.>

Meanwhile, they’re confronted by literal ghosts from their past driven to torment and kill them in revenge. So, the fun never stops.

Things referenced in this week’s episode:

The Superwiki page for this episode

My tag for this episode but especially these posts:

this one by norahastuff

similar thoughts i had to norahastuff, and a main reason why I personally prefer to understand that Dean remembered Hell explicitly right from the start and lied about it rather than slowly recalling it all over time...

some thoughts on Cas

more thoughts on Dean and Cas

Lizbob thoughts

The production draft script for this episode that Chris Gauthier (the actor who plays Ron Resnick) auctioned off to benefit the IRSSS

and a link to the Indian Residential School Survivors Society if you’d like to make a donation as well.

Along with a reminder that all the scripts and sides and other little bonus things like that are part of the collection put together by the @spnscripthunt group. We have pages and scripts from nearly 1/3 of the series, and always welcome donations of a PDF scan of scripts we’re still missing. Check out the scripthunt for more info!

(sorry i’m about 13 hours later than usual... i haven’t known what day it is for at least a week now lol)

Listen now on AnchorFM, or wherever you enjoy podcasts :)

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Who, if I cried out, would hear me among the angels' hierarchies?

And even if one of them pressed me suddenly against his heart: I would be consumed in that overwhelming existence. For beauty is nothing but the beginning of terror, which we are still just able to endure.And we are so awed because it serenely disdains to annihilate us. Every angel is terrifying. And so I hold myself back and swallow the callnote of my dark sobbing. Ah, whom can we ever turn to in our need? Not angels, not humans, and already the knowing animals are aware That we are not really at home in our interpreted world.

—The First Elegy from the Duino Elegies by Rainer Maria Rilke 

insp by @brownbicon

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sammy !

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4x02 - Are You There, God? It’s Me, Dean Winchester

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I just realized that the retcon of this scene was even WORSE than we originally thought. Although it’s possible that somebody mentioned it and I missed it. This implies that Anael knew Ruby in season THREE. 🙄🙄🙄

Here’s a little canon for the gruesome twosome from season 4.

Are You There, God? It's Me, Dean Winchester

RUBY: Did an angel rescue Dean? SAM: You heard. RUBY: Who hasn't? SAM: We're not 100% sure, but I think so. RUBY: Okay. Bye, Sam.  RUBY starts walking away. SAM grabs her arm and turns her back to face him. SAM: Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Wait. What's going on? RUBY: Sam, they're angels. I'm a demon. They're not gonna care if I'm being helpful. They smite first, and then they ask questions later. SAM: What do you know about them? RUBY: Not much. I've never met one, and I don't really want to. All I know is that they scare the holy hell out of me. Watch yourself, Sam. SAM: I'm not scared of angels. RUBY walks away, leaving SAM alone. 

🤔🤔🤔🤔

Once again;

I've never met one, and I don't really want to.

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Among the many retcons in Supernatural, Gabriel retcon is my favorite. Like, I didn't expect the reveal, but 5x08 explained Trickster's previous motive and behavior surprisingly well? So I was wondering, what's your favorite concepts or ideas that were added later in the show?

Aw heck, that’s an excellent one. There’s a lot of retcons I really enjoy. A personal favorite will always be the existence of angels. Dean had them listed on the Bullcrap List, even after an angel raised him from Hell. He had to essentially reevaluate his entire lifetime of understanding the universe to accommodate the understanding that angels are real.

Not only Dean’s reaction, but Sam’s. Sam had always had faith, and always wanted to believe that Heaven and angels and God were real, and forces for good in the universe to counteract hell and demons and all the evil in the world that they’d spent their lives fighting against. But the reality Sam had to accept was that angels and Heaven might be real, but hoooboy are they dicks. :’D

And heck, didn’t that just open up the universe of the show to everything that’s enabled it to continue on past s4? And best of all, it brought us Cas. :D

Now I’m interested in what other folks consider the best retcon. 

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