I like how Flowery champions self-determination like he knows allllll about it and like he's just being a chipper helpful mentor dreamer guy by paying it forward and saying See? You Can Be More Than Your Circumstances! but when you actually look at it Flowery's own self-determination and personal wishes are always always at odds with his desire to please Asgore
Flowery wants to push Ralsei out of her shell and show her she can be her own person— but he's also the one who insists she wear her hat and hide in the closet to prevent Asgore from seeing her (and realizing she looks like Asriel, presumably)
Flowery wants the flowers to be a loving family— but he also wants Asgore to be there and happy too, it's basically a non-negotiable, so he insists they keep trying to impress and aid him even when Asgore clearly doesn't care about them
Flowery does have his own agendas, but in the end, he's decided what he really wants most of all is just to make Asgore happy. Even though, objectively, he has so much else going for him-- the other flowers, the Darkners, even Susie and Ralsei-- he'll always be stuck stalling on the idea of Asgore, of endlessly trying to please his Lightner. He's such a hypocrite.









