#synastry posts

[sillybruja]

Mercury in 8H Synastry 🧿

As per my usual posting, I will break this down via both perspectives, but before I do that I want to emphasize that these things that I mention can be flipped around between you and the other person.

When mercury meets the 8th house in synastry, I think the first word I would describe this dynamic with would be… penetrating. Followed by psychologically warping, and intellectually enthralling. This is because when Mercury, the planet of communication, intellect, the mind, and the way we communicate meets the 8th house, which is a very dark house in nature, you find yourself connecting with the person you share this synastry with on a deeper, unspoken level.

For the planet person

As the planet person. you might feel like the house person pulls your inner thoughts out of you without them even trying. I feel like there’s something super empathic and psychic about this synastry because it could feel like the house person is reading your thoughts sometimes. Or they can predict or determine your next moves somehow. In my opinion, this is because the 8th house is naturally very exposing so when Mercury is placed here, you might feel like they make you say things you didn’t plan to say out loud, or share secrets about yourself that you never planned to tell anyone. In a lot of ways, this is very enticing for you as the planet person because it will feel like the house person has broken the “lock” you had around the vault of information about you. It’s not just that you feel comfortable sharing intimate details with this person — you can have that with literally anyone — this is different. The house person does not only make you comfortable to share your dark past or traumas or secrets — they also naturally help you process these things so that you can alchemize that pain and turn it into something beautiful, or better. Be wary, though, because as the planet person, you can become obsessed with understanding the house person’s psyche and motivations.

You will feel compelled to analyze the house person’s words, tone, pauses, inflections, etc., just to fully grasp what is going on between you two. This is why I feel that mercury in the 8th house synastry suggests high mental stimulation, almost as much as physical attraction. But with this mental stimulation comes a lot of exposure. You just, trust this person, and you can’t really put into words why. Even if you do not necessarily trust them as a person, you deeply trust them when it comes to you, and in ways, you “lock in” because of this. You can become very like, loyal to this person and sometimes it can be blind loyalty.

The emotional depth of this connection really comes through via conversation and deep intimacy. It can feel very vulnerable when speaking to this person, because maybe their words carry mire weight than usual, but you just feel safe enough to let go and open up to them. Often, you can feel like you’ve “said too much” but can’t stop talking — that’s the feeling here. Conversations can also feel very fated and this person could help you put the pieces of a mental puzzle together with you, especially if you need someone to help you see all perspectives.

There’s mutual love and spiritual growth in this connection. You are helping the house person process trauma or their shadow aspects in your own way, and generally speaking, communication can feel transformational. It could also feel like this person is just like in your mind, and can even know what you think and feel. To me it feels like a weird invasion of privacy that you willingly co-sign. In ways, this could make you feel like you are some how linked, or tethered to the house person and this manifests in different ways, like wanting to always text them, check on them, or think about them very intensely out of nowhere.

Some shadowy aspects…

Because this is the 8th house, some sort of power dynamic is at play and it could be you that feels like the house person has some sort of emotional or psychological power over you. Sometimes you might try to regain control by withholding information, or overexplaining things, intellectualizing your emotions, hell even stone walling them. Be wary though, that if you are more of a confrontational person, your words could be very sharp, hurtful, and sometimes you can’t take them back. Words have consequences in this synastry. You could experience intrusive thoughts about them, or feel very misunderstood because of how they handle your secrets. You might be way too hyper critical of yourself while knowing this person, fearing you said too much. I’ve also noticed that your thoughts and inner world might just be a bit darker after meeting them. Be ware of feeling mentally drained —this synastry is not for everyone, and it is highly romanticized. The 8th house’s shadow axis is the 2nd house, so you could very well experience abusive situations with this person. Verbal abuse, mental/emotional abuse, or spiritual abuse is a possibility.

For the house person

The best way that I like to describe the 8th house person in this situation is somebody who is just completely unaware of themself. I'm not calling you naive but I have noticed a pattern with the house person and that is that they don't realize their own depth. The thing is, the house person is very good at hiding things. It's comfortable in this energy, that way everybody else in the outside world can't see what they are hiding. However when they meet the planet person, it almost feels like the planet person aggressively ends those barriers.

When you get around the planet person, it can sort of feel like you take on their energy. You become a sponge and absorb anything and everything that's on their mind, the good, the bad, the beautiful and the ugly. it can be very dismantling because you can be totally fine prior to meeting them, or meeting up with them, but when you’re away from them, you can feel a heavy negative energy lingering. In my opinion, this is why the house person can feel this dynamic on a deeper level because they truly feel changed when dealing with the planet person. This could lead to a certain level of resentment in the long run, but I will discuss this later on in the post.

The planet person will definitely activate something deep in you that will make you think a bit harder about the things you hide — your hidden thoughts, feelings, memories, secrets, etc. When you meet the planet person, you might not be as ready as they are to just unload on them (or trauma dump), but you definitely start to realize that there are things within you that you are trying to hide and run away from. Your processing becomes very internalized. This could either be because the planet person inspires you to revisit these things to heal them, OR, because they make you feel very uncomfortable by how invasive they could be, or how judgmental they can be. The 8th house acts like a mirror so when two people come together with this synastry, the both of them subconsciously mirror each other’s dark attributes. The idea here is to face, heal, and transform these things together, but sometimes this is rather scary especially for the house person. If the planet person’s pushiness to get to know you is too much, you can definitely feel like this energy is overwhelming and not welcoming at all.

when things are good…

This is a highly expressive and communicative couple or dynamic. They both might seriously feel like they hit the jackpot because both people are very deep and intense and are lucky to have each other. Both people can SAFELY express themselves with one another, and confide in each other about the things that they can to others about. They feel emotionally, spiritually and sexually understood by one another, and can cater to each other’s needs without having to say a word to one another. The sex could feel electric, or more like an emotional experience due to how highly psychically connected the two of them are. They are loyal to one another, they fight for one another, they put each other first. They can recognize when there’s good days, bad days, and everything in between. They invest in businesses together or support each other’s dreams, and they love to gift each other things as their love language. It’s a mentally sound connection with a healthy level of excitement and obsession.

moving into the toxic side of things…

Negative obsession is a thing here. Obsession comes more in the form of the both of you being obsessed with each other's thoughts or how you perceive each other, what you think about each other, what you assume about each other, etc. There's a lot of mental, emotional and spiritual obsession here. These are the kinds of people that get tarot readings on each other even if they're in no contact with one another. I feel another thing that's really toxic about this synastry is how heavily you can project onto one another. This happens because you guys can assume so much about each other without actually trying to find proof or get confirmation. Mental games are major here, and things can get very toxic especially if there are strong power dynamics at play. Unfortunately, I feel like the person who feels over powered could also end up feeling manipulated into going along with what the other person wants. Verbal abuse is also unfortunately something I see happening here, or just general nasty verbal communication. This leads me to the next thing that I see: control over the other person. It does not matter who is who in this synastry, this is unfortunately a possibility. Resentment is a possibility too, especially if it feels like one person is giving more mental and emotional energy than the other person.

[sillybruja]

2H Synastry can be literally psychotic

okay but why does no one talk about how deeply disturbing having a lot of 2H placements in a synastry chart can be 😱 this (to me) is almost worst than 8H synastry in the sense that the person you have 2H synastry with might actually feel entitled to you. On the most extreme end of things, I've seen this synastry manifest as one person feeling like they "own" the other, or vice versa. Sometimes, both parties feel this way about each other. While there will be a deep and intimate bond formed between them, this connection will take a sharp turn over time, if there's no balance of independence and time spent together. The way these two will infringe upon each other's time, space, freedom, while also pushing each other's boundaries can genuinely keep them both stuck in a cycle of hurt.

2H is also associated with out self-esteem / esteem in general. So, with 2H synastry I've seen this manifest as also having a private/secret competition with each other over things like accolades, money, friends, lovers, etc. Both can and will deeply hurt and affect each other's self-esteem either intentionally or not, because the both of them will mirror each other's darkest sides to one another. It will feel nearly impossible not to feel like one (if not both) of them is living in the other's shadow. One can become obsessed with the idea of the other 2H placement person, while simultaneously grow a deep resentment for them (warranted or not, the lines tend to blur too often).

THIS synastry is what feels most like lovers to enemies, friends to frenemies, etc.

[sillybruja]

Synastry Observations: Frenemy/"enemy" edition part 1

DISCLAIMER: I am not a professional astrologer, this purely my observation based on repetitive patterns I notice within the signs, placements, houses etc. Take what I say with a grain of salt and understand not every astrology observation will resonate.

↳Heavy 8th House Synastry and/or negatively aspected 2H synastry↴

This one is a doosey. Personally, I never had 8H synastry with anyone that I have ever considered a friend, but I have seen this play out with other friendships. This synastry can suggest an imbalance of give and take, as well as a friendship that can be "obsessive". Feelings of jealousy, envy, and even resentment build over time. I've seen this also manifest as jealousy over the person's other friends, family, and sometimes even romantic partners. Very karmic & a difficult bond to break, but it could also be very emotionally harmful. It also highly depends on the emotional state of the people involved, especially the emotional state of the house person as they seem to be the most "reactive" in this situation.

↳Sun/Moon/Mercury/Venus in 12H↴

These placements can definitely indicate secrecy created in a friendship dynamic. Either the friendship itself is kept secret, or one/both parties feel suspicious of the other, no matter how much time has passed or trust has been earned. Another heavily karmic synastry aspect to have. Usually the planet person is more aware of the pain each other causes, but the house person also feels the intensity. A lot can be ruined due to misunderstandings with this placement, but in the same regard -- this placement does also indicate two people who are magnetically connected, but eventually have their perception of each other morphed over time into something more negative. Truth be told, both parties see each other in a more "tainted" and deluded way as time goes on because both parties are secretive about their suspicions. Suspicion left undiscussed only has room to grow. Not always the case, but when this manifests in an "ex-friendship" or in a synastry chart of frenemies, its easier to see the ways either one or both have deceived each other in a connection. I've also noticed specifically with Moon/Mercury (sometimes venus) in 12H synastry shows how one person "prys" in the other's life. For example, having Mercury in 12H synastry could mean that one person oversteps and over-inquires about the other. Maybe this person listens to, inspires, encourages, or spreads misinformation about the other. Or, this person generally feels "superior" in the themes of mercury like communication, travel, intelligence, logic, etc. It also gives "pick me" vibes, or like those female friends you have that enjoy laughing at you or embarrassing you around others for validation. Icky.

↳Chiron conjunct personal planets and/or the nodes↴

These aspects are the definition of fated to me. When this is present in the chart of two frenemies, I know these two really hurt each other in various ways. When its chiron conjunct sun/moon for instance, I see a lot of damage to the ego, and self-confidence when dealing with each other. One person feels massively insecure in the presence of the other, and in enemy cases, its almost as if one person (usually chiron person) clings onto sun person even if chiron person harbors hate, bitterness, or resentment towards the sun person. Chiron conjunct personal planets can bring a lot of instability on so many levels -- on a soul level, physical / material level, emotional level, 3D, 5D etc etc. These connections are usually very painful because at one point in time, these two individuals could have been very close or trusted each other, and things took a left turn when both began to trigger each other. I've also seen this in complicated friendships where the two are not exactly true friends, or honest/genuine friends to each other, but there's a weird sense of loyalty toward one another. Maybe you two are in secret competition, and you feel the other person does not like you. Typically you would end communication with someone like this, but with this person, you find excuses for them and reasons to remain in their energy. kinda odd tbh. Chiron conjunct the nodes says all the same but speaks more so to the soul missions of the individuals. This could mean you both agreed to be here to have problems and to learn lessons together lol. But with chiron conjunct NN/SN, the connection will feel very electric but will most likely fizzle out over time.

↳Busy 3H synastry / lilth 3H / Chiron 3H / Pluto 3H / Neptune 3H↴

Ugh, the gossip. The lies. The bullying. the fakeness. This synastry is like toxic sibling rivalry except they're supposed to your friend. When you have this synastry with a frenemy, you will experience a lot of bs from them and vice versa. These placements also suggest heavy gossip about each other and usually what's being talked about involves the rough stuff. I am talking, the stuff you told this person with confidence that they'd never tell a soul. These people can hit below the belt when they're scorned. I've seen these enemies being very direct towards each other as well, so not only is there open gossip involved, this person will also own up to it! They're the type to be like "yeah b!tcH! I said that. Do you want me to repeat myself??" very confrontational, which could also lead to yelling matches or serious mutual moments of rage. Lilith in 3H is roughest when it comes to exposing the other person's darkness when scorned. When you have this aspect with someone, you should probably be cautious of what you tell them because you might think they forgot, but really, they just stored it in the back of their mind to use for later. Pluto 3H will force one or both people to evolve in terms of how they communicate -- harsh lessons about communication, connection, community, and even relationships with others come from this aspect. Chiron in 3H (and even Neptune 3H) will really put you through the ringer. You will have to go through hardships that can constantly trigger your communication and intelligence wound with this person. One last thing I have noticed is that these people were (or still are to a weird degree) typically close to the point where their families are very intertwined with one another. This can manifest as one or both of them getting each other's families (specifically cousins and siblings) involved with their drama, or "picking sides".

[sillybruja]

Synastry question? Do you think there are fated aspects in synastry where there are high chances to meet with certainty? If so state some, btw would North node conjunct ascendant in Gemini mean both are somewhat destined to communicate on some level? Thanks:)

Oh for sure! in terms of aspects I feel conjunctions are the strongest indicator of meeting with certainty, or of coming together to accomplish the themes of the aspect, but to be more specific here's some more that i feel have higher chances of meeting with most certainty:

Sun conjunct Moon:

This one is the most obvious because when I see see this in a synastry chart, I immediately know that two people simply know each other, and not in a surface-level way. Be it sun or moon person -- you both tend to feel like each of you really know the soul needs of the other -- you know how they would feel about things, what they need, their fears, their desires -- an a lot of the time, this feeling of knowing these things just comes naturally. You might feel like you have known each other forever. Soulmate vibes.

Saturn conjunct personal planets:

Any time I see saturn making a conjunction to a personal planet in a synastry chart, I immediately know that these 2 people had to come together to learn (harsh) lessons of the aspect. Couples with this aspect come here to learn about how to conquer their own limitations through the limits (and harsh realities) put on each other from this relationship. Feels very karmic in nature, but it is not all bad. On the contrary, this could suggest you two come together to "mature" and achieve long term success. These aspects also suggests longevity in relationships or knowing the person.

Venus conjunct chiron:

Healing is possibly literally the "theme" of this relationship. There is lots of love in this connection, despite any hardships. Chiron person is meant to help aid venus person in their healing journey. Relationship, in general, could help both individuals heal. This is also a strong marriage indicator.

[sillybruja]

hiii, I hope you're well. I want ask you about two synastry aspects if that's okay!

so I wanted to know your thoughts on Node conjunct Mars synastry in the 12th house and also Lilith conjunct Moon

Thank you so much! <3

Hiya! I can def explain my interpretation on this. Keep in mind this is just my interpretation!

Nodes conjunct Mars

Starting with the Nodes conjunct mars. Since the North/South nodes are all involving some form of karma, as well as the 12H house... paired with mars, the planet of sex, transformation, work, etc... I would say this aspect in synastry can bring a whole lot of change into your life, BUT it could also bring you a lot of of nothing too. When you have strong Node contact, particularly with personal planets, it is safe to say these two ppl came together to sort out, reap, or collect karma together. This synastry aspect is not easy, and I have seen this manifest in numerous ways. One of the most common ways I've seen this aspect play out is usually in a "what could have been" situation and/or situationship. If basing romantic compatibility on astrology, particularly this placement, I would say it can be very hard to maintain this relationship (not for everyone though) due to the fiery, impulsive nature of mars (or mars person) Negatively manifested, this couple can bicker for days, and sometimes have physically impulsive reactions, or heated debates. More positively manifested and I see two people who come together, feeling like they were on a "mission" in this life time. Given that all of this is happening in the 12H, I think it is fair to say that these two keep lots of secrets together, and from each other -- they probably often dream about each other a lot -- I have also seen this manifest as two people dreaming about their arguments too, and any issues they have. The 12H is also about hidden motives or enemies, what this synastry aspect can suggest is a few things: 1. You two came together to truly not know the motives of the other, but with the goal to learn discernment and trust. 2. This person *could* be a hidden enemy. 3. Both people with this synastry aspect some how sabotage the connection in some way, but they do more so with South Node mars synastry. However, when this happens -- it is often because mars person (or either person) has the wrong idea about the Node person. Sometimes one or both people could be under a delusion about the other person - particularly about their motives, intentions, morals, character etc. More positively aspected, and I see this having potential to be serious, consistent, loyal, and sacred. This could also be a very safe relationship as you feel this other person you have this synastry with knows your heart and soul to the core.

Lilith conjunct Moon

In terms of lilith conjunct moon... I will give my vague opinion because it genuinely depends on who is what placement, and where this aspect is but, I have noticed there is a unique sense of vulnerability the other person brings out of you. People you have this synastry with (romantic or not) will at some point, see you at your worst, and still love you for who you are (this is also for lilith conj. moon natal). I will say, this can be a challenging placement... especially since it seems a big theme of this aspect deals with emotional wounding & reoffending. The lilith person can often trigger the moon person's emotional wounds, especially if those wounds pertain to the mother wound. There's also an element of risk to this connection -- be it actual risk like one or both of you are unavailable (this gives emotional affair vibes), or one person feels a bit afraid to be emotionally vulnerable with the other due to the other's often displaced temperament There is definitely a bit of obsession involved with this aspect, as at some point one or both people feel very deeply invested in one another, and very curious to explore the deeper, darker sides of each other's psyche. Basically, this aspect can suggest a very deep and emotional, sexy connection that could be a bit obsessive and toxic if there's lots of bad aspects. I can also say with most certainty that one of the biggest themes of this aspect involves triggering each other's mother wounds, or in general, bringing up heavy issues with a mother figure. Could also signify that one (or both) of you have a mother who lacks boundaries and crosses the line (or could) with you partner. Lots of rough stuff can go on with this placement too.