This is often one of the warmest emotional connections in synastry. There is usually a strong sense of comfort, familiarity, and emotional ease from early on. The Moon person tends to feel emotionally understood, while the Venus person naturally expresses affection in a way that soothes the Moon.
There can be a strong instinct to care for each other, nurture each other, and maintain emotional closeness. It often feels like emotional “home,” where affection flows naturally without needing explanation.
However, it’s not always perfect emotional harmony. Because the bond feels so comforting, there can be a tendency toward emotional dependency or blurred boundaries. Sometimes issues get softened rather than directly addressed because the connection feels too safe to disrupt.
At its best, it’s a very tender, affectionate, and emotionally supportive aspect - but it still requires healthy emotional responsibility from both people.
Moon Trine Venus
This aspect shows a smooth emotional and affectionate flow between two people. There is natural liking, emotional ease, and mutual understanding of how affection is expressed.
People often feel comfortable and accepted without needing to adjust themselves too much emotionally. The emotional connection feels steady, kind, and supportive without being overwhelming.
It is less intense than the conjunction, but generally more balanced. Because of that, it allows more emotional space and individuality while still maintaining warmth.
At its best, it creates long-term emotional ease, but it still needs conscious effort to keep emotional depth alive over time.
Moon Sextile Venus
This is a friendly, cooperative emotional connection. There is natural understanding, but it doesn’t usually feel consuming or deeply merging.
People often “get” each other’s emotional style fairly quickly, especially in everyday situations. There’s a sense of ease in communication and affection, but it’s more subtle than the trine or conjunction.
It often works well in friendships or relationships that develop gradually, because emotional trust builds over time through shared experiences.
It’s not usually intense, but it is stable and cooperative when both people actively engage.
Moon Square Venus
This aspect creates emotional attraction mixed with friction. There is often strong liking or chemistry, but differences in emotional needs and affection styles can create misunderstandings.
One person may want more emotional closeness, while the other expresses love differently or feels overwhelmed by emotional expectations. This can lead to moments of feeling unappreciated or misunderstood, even when there is real care present.
It can feel very emotionally activating - sometimes sweet, sometimes frustrating. The connection can be strong, but it requires awareness of emotional differences.
If healthy, it builds emotional growth and deeper understanding of love styles. At worst, it leads to repeated miscommunication and emotional tension.
Moon Opposite Venus
This is a polarity aspect, so there is strong attraction but clear emotional differences. Each person tends to express and experience love in contrasting ways.
One person’s emotional needs may not naturally align with the other’s affection style, which can create a push-pull dynamic. There can be confusion about timing, closeness, or emotional expectations.
Despite this, there is often strong mutual interest or attraction, because the differences create awareness and curiosity about each other.
When both people are mature and willing to understand emotional differences, it can become a very bonding and intimate aspect. Without that awareness, it can lead to feeling emotionally out of sync or misunderstood.
People with this aspect often describe feeling drawn to each other immediately, almost like the attraction starts before they fully understand why. Many say the relationship feels “alive” all the time, lots of flirting, touching, teasing, and emotional intensity.
The sexual chemistry is often immediate, magnetic and hard to ignore. Having a constant physical awareness of each other, where even small interactions can feel intensely charged.
In real life, people often report that even after arguments, the chemistry pulls them back together quickly. Some also mention becoming a little obsessed with each other in the beginning because the energy feels so consuming.
The downside people talk about most is that passion can overpower emotional clarity, making it hard to stay objective.
Personally I think this is a soulmate aspect to have in romantic relationships.
Venus Trine Mars
This aspect usually shows a very easy and natural connection. People often say they feel attractive, relaxed, and appreciated around each other without having to perform or chase validation.
Couples frequently describe the sexual connection as smooth and emotionally satisfying rather than chaotic or overwhelming. There is often a sense of “we just work well together” in both romance and everyday interactions.
Many long-term couples with this aspect say it helps keep affection and physical attraction stable over time.
Venus Sextile Mars
People commonly describe this aspect as subtle at first but increasingly charming the more time they spend together. There is often a lot of playful flirting, mutual encouragement, and emotional friendliness underneath the attraction.
These couples may start as friends or feel comfortable together quickly before realizing the chemistry is building. Many say this aspect feels cooperative rather than consuming - attraction grows through shared experiences instead of instant intensity.
Some people report that the connection needs effort and initiative to fully develop, but it becomes rewarding once nurtured.
Venus Opposite Mars
This aspect gets described as “I can’t stay away from them, but we are very different.” Many people report intense attraction mixed with emotional confusion or frustration about timing, affection styles, or expectations.
One person may want closeness while the other becomes more independent or reactive, creating a hot-and-cold dynamic.
However couples often say the physical chemistry stays strong even during periods of conflict or separation.
In healthy relationships, people describe learning a lot about balance, compromise, and understanding differences through this aspect.
Venus Square Mars
People with this aspect frequently talk about explosive chemistry and equally explosive frustration. The attraction can feel addictive, but there is often tension around how affection, sex, attention, or emotional needs are expressed.
In real-life stories, couples may fight over seemingly small things because the emotional and physical energy between them is so activated.
Many describe a “love-hate” feeling where irritation and desire exist at the same time.
When the relationship is mature and emotionally aware, people often say the intensity keeps the connection passionate and exciting for years.
do 8th and 12th house synastry ever not get together
8th and 12th house overlays in synastry are intense and deeply felt, but intensity alone doesn't guarantee a relationship comes together. What these overlays do is create a really strong pull - like you feel drawn to each other in a way that's hard to explain.
8th house overlays bring obsession, depth, and transformation.
12th house overlays bring this almost dreamlike, spiritual, "i feel like i know your soul" kind of energy.
Even tho it might be intense and feel different form other house overlays, people might not always consent to having a relationship. Some people love intense energy within relationships, some get scared of it, bc it feels 'too much'.
it really depends on the individual, their chart, and what they look for in a relationship.
So yes, 8th and 12th house connections might not always get together - not because the connection isn't real or felt, but because a relationship also requires both people to actually want and choose it.
The pull will almost always be there. Whether it turns into something real depends on a lot more than just the overlay. 🤍
Hello!! Idk if you take asks, but if you do: could you have you a pluto in the 7th house overlay and still have marriage indicators? I have it with my current crush but I'm confused🤣🤣 also, my parents' relationship looks amazingly karmic to me, but they don't have any pluto karmic overlays. Are there any other signs that a relationship might be karmic? Chiron maybe? Thank you so much!!🤍
Hey!!
yes absolutely!! having a Pluto in the 7th house overlay does NOT mean marriage or long term partnership is off the table - if anything Pluto sitting in someone's 7th house can make the relationship feel really fated, deeply serious and transformative. Pluto is all about depth and intensity so it showing up in the house of partnership just adds that layer of "this connection means something." I will say tho, because Pluto also symbolizes transformation, it's important that both people are open and willing to grow together - that's kind of the key with this overlay.
and about your parents - you don't need Pluto overlays for a relationship to feel karmic at all! Heavy Saturn, Chiron, North Node or South Node contacts in synastry can absolutely carry that same karmic, fated energy.
Saturn especially can make a relationship feel really binding and serious in a way that feels destined.
North/South Node contacts are also a big one - that have that "I've known you before" feeling.
Chiron shows our deepest wounds, so whatever house it sits in, in overlay, is where we are gonna feel triggered and vulnerable. That can make the connection feel karmic as well, but it can also be a catalyst of growth if both people are willing to heal through it. 🤍
loss of a parent can be a life changing event for anybody.
loss of a parent you have 7H synastry with can be soul crushing.
I present two examples for this. Diana's natal Sun fell in Harry's 7H and he's publicly expressed how he could not move from her death for twenty years. His deep attachment to Diana vastly differs from his more serious brother, William (in whose 8H Diana's Sun overlayed).
Nargis' Sun also fell over Sanjay Dutt's 7H and he continues to commemorate her death anniversary forty years on! He revealed in an old interview how he'd excessively cry after hearing her voice in a recording.
These children become your greatest memory holders.
Grief overwhelms them to the point they become a walking sanctuary of their beloved mama/parent. A deification is attributed out of sheer devotion but healing from this grief has to be constructive. Yes, it can turn unhealthy when too much projection goes unchecked.
In Vedic, 7th is the Maraka House so I wonder if the death signified here (esp via synastry connection) hits more deeply for our psyche.
Some connections that we experience in life feel more like a pipe dream, rather than a lived experience. A fantasy, rather than reality. Even a nightmare, rather than a fairy tale. When we look at Venus in 12H synastry, we see a connection that doesn't need to be seen to be felt. We see the underlayer of our primal instincts and the things that we like to hide about ourselves in these relationships. We see a connection that feels like it breaks the universal law, a connection that doesn't follow the rules. These two people come together with a very specific purpose and could be meeting each other again in this lifetime. I will be focusing on Venus 12H synastry in a romantic relationship or with a POI/SP.
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Venus in 12H synastry is a very complex synastry to have with somebody, and in my opinion, it's one of the synastries that sort of embodies a different energy depending on the nature of the relationship. Because of this, I will be making this a two-part series post so that I can go into greater detail about the complexities of this synastry. My following post will cover what this synastry looks like in a non-romantic sense, like with friendships and family members, coworkers, etc. It embodies a bit of a different energy, which deserves its own explanation, so look out for that post! One final disclaimer: This is not going to resonate with everybody, and I will mention both typical things that you could expect and the more extreme side of things that won't be very relatable to everybody. Remember that not everything I post will resonate with you, and try to read it from the perspective of wanting to learn something new rather than wanting to fit a narrative! Other than that, please let me know what you think, and if you enjoy it, please like and reblog or give me a follow. Enjoy!
Venus in 12H synastry
In this article, I will be discussing the good, the bad, the ugly, and everything in between involving romantic Venus in 12H synastry. Starting with Venus' perspective.
Right off the bat, I would say that the Venus person feels the seriousness of this connection first. Even if you don't really know the person a lot, you might feel an immediate pull to them and a deep desire to get to know them. You might want to be their hero or their savior or their protector, etc. You might be put in a situation (at the time of meeting) where you are these things for this person. Nonetheless, I find that the Venus person is very self-sacrificing for the house person in this synastry.
Venus wants to truly understand the house person, and I think this is where the issues really start, because the house person is usually not open to Venus entering such vulnerable spaces in their life. But that's for later. The connection that Venus feels to the house person is very spiritual, and it's definitely something that they've never experienced before. Of course, if the Venus person has natal 12H placements, I find that Venus here can have an easier time communicating with the house person. If not, I do see that there is a bit of a challenge. Nonetheless, Venus feels like either divine intervention brought the two of them together, or that the two of them serve a bigger purpose together. The Venus person knows this deep in their heart and it's like they're just waiting for the house person to get there and accept that fate lol.
I'll be honest, Venus could become a little delusional for the house person. This is because the house person is on Venus' mind 24/7 and rent free. It's almost like an impulse. There is definitely an obsessive element to this synastry, but that could honestly go both ways and I think a lot would depend on your natal chart, transits, and whether any of the house person's planets fall into Venus' 12th house, etc. both could also be equally obsessed with each other but in the beginning it is more so Venus because again, Venus feels very passionate about the 12th house. Venus wants to love on the 12th house, and in a way, Venus wants to pull the house person out of their shell and out of that dark, elusive, mysterious, and unreachable place that they resort to.
This synastry can make Venus an unconditional lover 100%. And in a lot of situations, Venus is not naturally that way. Venus could have had strong boundaries before meeting the house person but it's like when they finally meet, all Venus wants to do is connect with the house person even if that means abandoning themselves sometimes. This is where the ugly starts. Venus will sacrifice things like their time, effort, money, creativity, fortune, etc., just to please the house person. This is going to be different for everybody, but if you are not over-giving to the house person, like giving them your resources, time, energy, and the things that I mentioned, you are over-forgiving of them. This comes back to the fact that you accept them fully, flaws and all. However, you should also understand that they don't have to feel the same way and I think this is where a lot of miscommunication and illusion starts to happen with the Venus person because they feel like they're mirroring each other's feelings. For instance, if Venus is very self-sacrificing or would literally give the shirt off their back to the house person, they may assume that the house person feels the same way, and that's not always true. When reality hits that the house person has their own mind, their own feelings, and their own perspective, the Venus person really is shocked by the house person. They can definitely betray each other because this is the house of hidden enemies. However, betrayal hits them very differently.
But, more on the subject of unconditional love. Venus loves them quickly and Venus wants to protect them immediately. It's kind of like Venus wants to protect them from the BS and darkness of the world, like it's their karmic duty. This is because they could feel like they are the only ones who truly knows the house person. The Venus person may not even fully understand why they feel so strongly for the house person, but they don't care. They know what the house person needs and they want to be there to mend their broken heart honestly. In my opinion, this would be very sweet and flattering IF it was warranted or asked for. A lot of the time, the house person is not asking for this from Venus, so that causes its own problems. But, there are also situations where the house person IS seeking Venus for that nurturing and that kind love that Venus has to offer the house person. They very much have a runner-chaser dynamic, and the house person isn't always pushing Venus away, but they will if they feel like Venus is pushing too far and trying to get too close when they are not ready.
Alternatively, I see situations where this pair cannot be together in the physical realm, but connect in their dreams, in the 5D, etc. I mentioned that this is a very spiritual connection, and a lot of times it really does not manifest into a solid relationship because there's no solid house to build on. When you deal with the 12th house, you are dealing with elusive energy, you are dealing with your deepest thoughts feelings and desires. But there's nothing that is really grounded enough to anchor in a solid connection, especially when there is Venus in 12H and/or harsh aspects involved. This of course is not always the case, but if there is a shorter relationship between the two, Venus definitely never forgets the house person and even romanticizes the time spent with the house person. This could be like the secret affair that the Venus person never forgot or maybe was not aware they were involved in until very later on when the two of them already split, etc. If the two people never come together in union or form a commitment, they still have a very serious spiritual entanglement and contract with each other. Even if the time that you spend together was one week or one year, that impact is forever ingrained in both people, but more so the Venus person. I have read charts for people who have this synastry, specifically for the Venus person, who would often share that they dream about the house person even though they haven't seen them in years, they haven't found the same level of passion with another person as they did with the house person, etc. I feel that Venus often romanticizes the connection so much to the point where sometimes the details are even skewed and the truth of what actually happened between both of them is often false or tainted. This is, again, is the uglier and definitely negative side of this synastry, but worth mentioning.
12H synastry is also about illusions and seeing past them. Often, this connection brings a level of illusion or deceit, and I feel like Venus tries to hang on to the connection a little bit stronger than the house person and could be more forgiving of any deceit or lies, and ultimately tries to keep that illusion of a soul tie or soulmate connection alive even if that's not what's happening in reality. Again, this synastry will literally make people feel crazy and it's not cute. I don't know why so many astrologers choose to romanticize this synastry, because just as often as it's good, it is a lot of trouble for people.I have talked to enough people who have expressed that they thought, felt, and acted in ways that they never have prior to meeting the 12H synastry person (this is a pattern I have noticed in both the house person and venus).
Venus really needs to be careful with how often they are romanticizing the house person's energy because it can get them in trouble. It could get them making poor choices and ultimately abandoning themselves by choosing to trust and believe the house person, even if the house person is playing in their face. Discernment is key, and I often find that if/ when these connections go wrong, it feels like a survival moment for Venus in a sense. A breakup should never feel like you have survived a long and never-ending marathon, but that's sort of what 12H synastry feels like. What sucks is that for a lot of people, that feeling sort of never fully fades.
For the house person, I think it is important to mention that they may already feel like an outcast as a person or they might already feel like people don't understand them. I've noticed that the house person is usually somebody who gets misunderstood, often. When the house person meets venus, the house person finally feels seen. The house person feels deeply affected by the Venus person, but does not understand why.
To the house person, Venus is like a leopard in the wild: Venus is stunning, no doubt, but also scary, intimidating, and frightening to the house person. It's actually very interesting to me how the house person can be both so attracted to Venus and so afraid of Venus. Of course not in a literal sense (usually), but in a way that they are scared to be fully vulnerable with the Venus person. This is typically because the house person actually does feel very accepted and seen by the Venus person but it's scary because nobody has ever made the attempt to connect with the house person in such a way. This is sort of where miscommunication could happen, because the house person isn't all bad. The house person is not mysterious, but rather overwhelmed and tries to keep things together internally. I think that the Venus person doesn't always understand that not everybody wants to put all of their traumas and their hurt and their pain, or even their love out on display.
Venus sees the parts of the house person that they try to hide, and that can definitely stir up some unsettling feelings in them. It's not a good feeling for them to be so sus and afraid of someone while simultaneously being deeply attracted to them. Venus stirs these feelings up in the house person and it creates like an internal storm. This is because the house person doesn't feel like they can really trust a Venus person for whatever reason, usually it is because of the illusion that this synastry comes with. But nonetheless, I would say that house person wants to love the Venus person, but feels like they just can't trust them, like the carpet will be pull from underneath them, etc.
I feel like the house person can sometimes become anxiously attached to Venus, even if they don't express that anxiety or show that they want to be in close proximity to venus. I'll be honest with you, it sort of gives Joe from You, in the sense that he watches the women that he really wants from afar, rather than just trying to approach them in a normal and respectful way. Not calling the house person a stalker but I'm saying that they feel safer watching the Venus person and enjoying their energy, than diving deep very quickly. In a normal romantic sense, this could look like being very sketchy and randomly ghosting, then popping back up, texting at all hours of the night, giving Venus attention, then suddenly pulling away while still watching their social media, etc. It looks like the house person showing just enough interest to keep the venus person thinking of them, wondering about them, and holding onto them.
Another note on issues with being vulnerable with the Venus person: I have noticed that the house person feels like their guard drops for Venus really quickly, and they could feel like they have no control over their reactions around Venus. This makes the house person so self-aware and yet so unable to stop themselves from reacting ways that make them feel out of control.
Out of the two, I would say that the house person can be more of the secretive one, but that is not to say that Venus can't be, too. Both can be pretty secretive. I feel that the secretive nature of the house person comes from this desire to feel safe in the connection. I don't always feel like the house person is hiding things to be malicious (though that can happen). Usually, it just feels safer for them to do that. Another part of this is that the house person doesn't always know how to label how they feel, so sometimes it's easier for them to just say that they're “fine” rather than diving into their actual feelings. The house person also just tends to think more negatively and might assume that their real feelings or "true self" would be "too much" for venus to actually love.
The house person has a tendency of playing mind games with Venus, especially using push-pull tactics to get Venus’ attention. But sometimes, it's not even for Venus’ attention. Sometimes, the house person gets so comfortable with sharing that they let themselves be too vulnerable with venus, and then pull away because that feeling is too intense for them. Sometimes it's about playing games, but sometimes it's genuinely just that the house person does not know how to accept that energy from the Venus person without questioning it or not trusting it.
I think in a lot of ways, the house person can be seen as very inconsistent and flaky to Venus, and Venus could take it very personally, but the house person just doesn't know what to do with Venus, I guess. They may know that they want to explore this connection with venus, but there's something in them that feels like it's intangible. They could feel like Venus is unavailable because maybe Venus is. Maybe Venus doesn't always wait for the house person and lets themself explore, etc. But I think a lot of the time, the house person just projects a lot of their insecurities onto Venus even if it is unfair or unjust.
The way that I see it is that the house person is afraid of their complex feelings for Venus because they have never felt such complexities before. They have never met somebody who has rattled their brain and yet made their heart race a million times over. They have never met somebody that challenges them and could feel totally different from them, or like an utter fantasy. I feel that the house person, whether they admit it out loud or not, gets totally enamored with the Venus person. Just like Venus feels for the house person. The problem is that the house person doesn't know how to express this without feeling afraid of what will happen if Venus leaves.
I think that is the biggest distinction in terms of who is more impacted by this synastry. They both are. They both carry the karmic weight of the connection, even after it's over. However, Venus is the planet of love and comfort and beauty.. Venus can know when to leave or when it is time to, but the house person? The house person might be stuck. The house person will be lingering on the memories of the Venus person until they could fully release that energy and see the connection for what it was. So while on the surface it might seem like the house person doesn't have much of a reaction to the Venus person, I would argue that the reaction is a lot stronger for the house person, it's just internalized. It's like having your insides set on fire and wanting to explode but unable to. It's like your heart breaking and having nobody to turn to. This is what it feels like for the house person if and when the Venus person leaves, and if there was a deep connection.
Sometimes, the house person can avoid deep and meaningful connections because they want to avoid falling in love with Venus. I find that the house person tends to cling on to words and intellectual conversation and just deep dialogue more than Venus, and they find that Venus naturally stimulates them intellectually and emotionally. Having conversations about the meaning of life, the future, the things that we hide, and love, feel scary for the house person because they don't typically connect in such a way with other people and they feel like if they give the Venus person the “key” to their heart, or to the parts of themselves that they hide, Venus can somehow destroy them.
Now more about this synastry, together. This otherworldly connection is one that will be felt throughout their entire lifetime. If this works out, I find that this couple ends up marrying and being together for their entire lifetime. If this situation doesn't work out, these two will not forget about each other. Nonetheless, things feel fated and like you two had a purpose in this lifetime. Sometimes you complete that purpose and sometimes you don't. This is also a very psychic and intuitive synastry to have with someone so they might feel like they can read each other's minds or just know what each other needs without needing to use words.
This is the kind of relationship where you will love each other at your very worst and still accept each other. Though this is mostly on Venus’ end, this could also be flipped. You have to take it as it resonates.
This relationship is very healing when it is healthy. I find that Venus wants to help soften and heal the house person, and house person creates a feeling of safety for the Venus person. And it is also worth mentioning that because this is the house of the hidden, intimacy can definitely be found in privacy.
Now onto the bad and ugly.
What makes this connection difficult is the utter lack of clarity and direction. If this connection never gets off the ground it always feels like it's floating up in the air, and it always feels like one or both people can't let each other go. I don't think it matters who feels this way in the connection because both tend to feel it at some point but they tend to ask themselves and each other, “what are we?” often. Oftentimes, they both cannot define what they want, or they are not on the same page at the right time. It's annoying because feelings can definitely exist but neither one of them knows how to put them into words.
Emotional projection is really strong and I kind of covered that earlier in this post. Usually, it is the house person that is projecting fantasies onto the Venus person, and the Venus person seeing what they want to see and not necessarily reality. This could definitely lead to things like avoiding the red flags in the person because they feel like the connection is too deep to let go. I think in some situations, they might feel like it is better to accept a false narrative or fantasy than to face reality or be accountable for the partner they chose.
There can be a lot of hidden dynamics and sneaky behavior in this synastry, especially if this is negative synastry. Of course, this placement shows up a lot and hidden or secret affairs, so that in and of itself can have its own issues. Besides that, I feel like there could be a lot of emotional manipulation and guilt tripping with this synastry, because the two people know so much about each other that they know each other's weak spots and how to play on each other's emotions. It gets messy as all heck. In the worst-case scenario, one or both people might realize that the other person is their hidden enemy or hidden “opp” in some way. Betrayal is unfortunately not uncommon with this synastry.
It is very important to have boundaries, especially spiritual boundaries with these connections because this could also indicate a draining connection that you experience as well. Pay attention to the red flags, and pay attention to how you feel when you are with this person. I've noticed that if somebody is draining your energy and you have this synastry, you might feel really lethargic and tired all of a sudden when you're around this person. A person who is right for you should make you feel energized and calm, not like you need a 10-hour nap.
Now to just wrap everything up. This could be a life-changing and deeply impactful connection that helps you both evolve as people, and it can definitely be a long-term, spiritual connection as well. But, you cannot sacrifice yourself for the sake of love and that is something that happens way too much with this synastry.
For the best outcomes for this synastry, I recommend radical acceptance and radical honesty. Don't hold back how you feel, and don't spend too much time waiting to define what the connection is. If it feels like it is something, it is something and you should give it a chance rather than fighting the current. But of course, strengthen your relationship with discernment and put yourself first always.
Do you have this synastry with anyone and can you relate to this post? Thank you for reading!
Hii.In synastry, my Saturn is in the same sign as his Venus, but we have a Venus square Saturn aspect at 7 degrees. Saturn is him, Venus is me, but we also have a Venus conjunction Saturn aspect. Saturn is me, Venus is him at 8 degrees. We also have a Moon trine Saturn aspect, Saturn is me, he is the Moon. We also have a Moon opposition Saturn aspect, this time the Moon is him, Saturn is me. We have other nice aspects too, but do these aspect patterns guarantee fidelity? Thxx
oh venus-saturn? y'all are never getting rid of each other then (both good and bad). The relationship can feel stale though.
moon-saturn can be draining and suffocating especially if one person doesn't have a strong placed moon natally.
hmm I suppose it can indicate fidelity in synastry but you'd have to check venus and moon in your natal chart and his chart too. Like let's say he has mars conjunct venus in 12H scorpio or a combust venus chances of him being loyal in relationships or having loyal partners would be reduced.
hmm I don't like it when I'm the house person, i.e. others having their planets in my 8H. It drives me nuts. I think that's because I have out of sect and detriment mars there.
now I love it when I'm the planet person instead especially if it's my moon or venus cause I usually get gifts from those people without asking lol
