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tashi and art behind the scenes
challengers (2024) dir. luca guadagnino
If I have to see one more post hating on Tashi for cheating on Art, while claiming Patrick would’ve been the better option for him, I’m gonna lose it.
It takes two people to cheat on someone and Patrick was well aware of Tashi and Art‘s relationship. You can’t say Patrick did what he did (sleep with Tashi) out of love for Art. That’s stupid and untrue. I’m not denying that Patrick loved Art (romantically and platonically) but he also loved Tashi.
Excluding the main character that is female and black to only ship the two white boys is not the revolutionary and forward thinking take some of you people think it is.
(Also, Tashi didn’t only love tennis. She’s a human being capable of loving more than one thing or person. This also goes for Patrick and Art. „Patrick loves Art. Art loves Tashi. Tashi loves tennis.“ is the most boring and surface-level reading of the movie. Stripping a woman of her emotions does not make her three dimensional. It makes her a flat character even if she’s focused on her „career“ rather than „a man“.)
Remaining Tashiart girlies sound off 😭 I miss them so bad 😭
I'm blushing and kicking my feet because I can't stop thinking about how Art wanted to kiss Tashi so badly and was practically begging for it , I love when male characters are so whipped for their love interest they genuinely say what they want. True romance 😍
Waitttt please talk more about tashiart bc i see most ppl slander Art specifically even zendaya (which surprised me) but to me it was always art for tashi even when they first meet its clear she prefers art and wants his number, she wants art to win so badly because she wants their family but also because she wants to respect him
yeah i absolutely agree i think with the standard caveats that they all need each other in different ways and the beauty of the movie is it's up for interpretation etc etc etc
art and tashi have a different dynamic from the drop than tashi and patrick. patrick has the swagger and the bluster and he pushes at tashi like he pushes at art, but the way art chooses his words is much more careful (you screamed) and i think immediately pings to her that he has what she needs (discipline, awareness, insightfulness) in a very particular way that patrick doesn't. also i think it shouldn't be overlooked that she clocks in the hotel room that patrick is hung up on art even though art is focused on her, so i think her awareness of patrick's emotional unavailability (as it were) colors her choices going forward. like... knowing that art is tuned into her and is malleable and willing, while patrick might have the fire but he's already not aligned with her (their) priorities and the Thing that separates them is confidence, not necessarily skill..... "you can beat him. you should beat him" is her choice and its also a test.
and like. he fails it in that moment because it's a test patrick is also participating in!! but patrick and tashi don't have enough between them to sustain them, they're all bark and no real bite because he's not serious or disciplined enough to be a viable partner for her, even before she needs a surrogate. they clearly have a lot of spark but you can't sustain that. she likes when patrick pushes her but she doesn't respect him.
fast forward to 13 years of marriage.......... i get that people have the impulse to say that tashi only loves tennis or tashi can't love art because he's a lapdog or they want her to be a girlboss or whatever but like. those two deeply want/need each other it's just much more difficult for her to communicate that kind of connection than it is with patrick because patrick is simpler. he doesn't demand anything form her really, besides her anger and her body (occasionally), and both of them still exist as teenagers with endless potential in his mind, which is safe. but art is demanding everything from her, even as he's reciprocating by giving her literally every piece of himself, the way he nursed her through her injuries and she his means that like. she can't hide anywhere. so like they're not verbalizing things the same way patrick does, but the devotion is there. she never ever stops telling art he can beat patrick, and when she's not sure, she begs patrick to lose so that there's never any danger of her having to make that choice.
and like. i think art and tashi could be happy without tennis, but i think the point is that she doesn't know because they've never had to try, and even the possibility that she'd lose it all if art doesn't have it in him is enough to make her humble herself in front of patrick. which she has no reason to do unless she wants to keep him. like. they've built an entire life together, she's built art into who he is but that's a two-way process. and they end up inviting patrick back into the fold which enriches their lives and gives them the boost they need but ultimately it's still them inviting patrick into the life they've built together. i don't think it's a happy ending or really a story at all unless you think tashi loves art desperately.
this look is so tashi duncan coded
ART DONALDSON
snake in the grass, groveling lapdog