People like this embarrass me as a biracial black person..
You had a somewhat of a point until you pulled out the “Well I’m [Insert marginalized group here] and I don’t think this is bad.” That’s great Susan that doesn’t mean your opinion matters or people in the same minority as you share it.
Don’t say that nonsense thinking you can just speak for people like us because you identify with those things. And I looked at your profile, from the looks of it you are at least half black and also European.
And this is why monorical black people look at us mixed race black people and go “Lemme see what your parents look like” or automatically go “Nah their Mom gotta be white-“
BECAUSE A BUNCH OF MORONIC MIXED BLACK PEOPLE SAY SHIT LIKE THIS AND TRY TO USE THEIR ETHNICITY AS A WAY TO DEFEND IT.
AND THEN TURN AROUND AND ONLY IDENTIFY AS MIXED AND DISMISS THEIR BLACK SIDE AS IF ITS JUST SITTING THERE AND DOESN’T HAVE ANY DEEPER MEANING.
And don’t even get me started on the whole “Well you people turn white, cis, straight, or male characters POC and genderbend them so you’re a hypocrite if you’re okay with that.”
…No dumbass that’s not how that shit works.
That HEAVILY relies on context, like for example in anime, the reason there’s a lot of black edits of anime characters is because we barely see ourselves represented in a piece of media we love and we want to see what it would look like if we were in said media.
Sure there’s a lot more black characters being made now but for many years we only got bits and pieces you had to find in hidden gems, and it’s still pretty much like that unfortunately.
And it doesn’t help that when these black characters are actually made in canon people will bitch about their existence or claim they’re not black and act like it’s the end of the fucking world when a black person is represented in anime.
So no honey, it’s not the fucking same in every scenario.
Also you didn’t even bother to explain what exactly this self insert was doing or what her role was. I don’t watch Heated Rivarly because it looks boring af to me, but all I can assume is this self insert was being shipped with one of the gay male characters and not the bi love interest.
Again I can’t be sure because you didn’t even bother to actually explain what was going on in that post.
But if that IS the case, then yes, it’s fucking weird that out of all these male characters this person could’ve chosen. She chooses the one NOT attracted to women. Instead of the one who IS attracted to women alongside being attracted to men.
So yeah it IS erasing minorities, being a minority and being okay with this doesn’t automatically mean people’s complaints about this are invalid.
And I bet you think “Blackwashing” is a thing too, it’s not, it doesn’t exist and never will, because Whitewashing has a COMPLETELY different meaning than just simply making a non white character white.
But you wanna make white people feel good so you try to act like both are bad when in reality one doesn’t even fucking exist.
So shut the fuck up when it comes to minority issues if you’re not even gonna acknowledge how problematic something can be when it does seem like a marginalized group is being erased for someone’s weird fantasy.
And maybe if you want people to understand the full picture actually show us some fucking context instead of just telling us and not showing.
Also not all canon is sacred, we’re allowed to pick and choose which canon is sacred especially if said canon is GARBAGE. Or there’s something in the canon that should be fixed or should’ve been fixed because the writers fucked it up. It’s not a one way street.
You didn’t have to “FLEE” a comment section you just got negative feedback because your point is dogshit. That’s what happens when people like you have to deal with other’s opinions. And when their opinions are different from yours you immediately call them “Antis” because they don’t think self inserting yourself into a gay relationship while one of the guys is not into women at all is appropriate.
Nobody is anti shipping just because they don’t like this one thing in shipping. We don’t have to agree on EVERYTHING when it comes to shipping.
Literally anytime people get remotely criticized on anything like this you people are quick to go “This is Censorship” or “You can’t tell the difference between fiction and reality.”
If anyone can’t take criticism ITS YOU PEOPLE. You act like criticism of anything you like whether it’s problematic or not is bad and is censorship.
You don’t even know what the fuck censorship means or what it is so shut the fuck up.
We can tell the fucking difference between fiction and reality dumbass, that doesn’t mean we’re not allowed to criticize it or call people out when they make pedo and racist shit. Just because it’s fiction doesn’t mean it makes it okay for you to make that shit in a positive light where it makes whatever problematic shit happening seem okay.
And even then nobody is saying you CANT make this stuff or you CANT ship this. They’re saying if you’re gonna make stupid weird shit then don’t get angry when people criticize you for it and think you’re some sort of bigot or weirdo.
You say we can’t tell the difference between fiction and reality, but you people can’t tell the difference between censorship and criticism that includes opposing opinions.
Also you lost this whole argument when you mentioned the people you’re arguing with are teenagers. First off how do you know that??? You think because they have common sense that they’re immature teenagers??? Second if they are kids why are you beefing with kids you KNOW don’t know any better??? You know what’s coming yet you willingly engaged in the argument.
And isn’t Heated Rivalry for adults????? Maybe the better question is why are they watching a show that’s not for teens and is explicitly for adults.
You people bitch and moan about kids in adult spaces but I guess that’s only reserved for when you wanna hog the fandom of a show targeted towards kids huh?
YOU DIDN’T SHOW ANY ACTUAL EVIDENCE THAT THIS HAPPENED OR SHOW ANYTHING TO GIVE CONTEXT.
So how in the fuck is anyone outside of that IQ deficient echo chamber supposed to believe you?????
Of course all the comments will be on your side because they lack the ability to take others opposing opinions and criticisms without bitching about how they’re being attacked when you literally knew what you were walking into.
“Ship let Ship is basic Fandom Etiquette.”
Not when the ship and how it’s being portrayed is problematic and perpetuates a culture that enables stuff like bigotry or other stuff like Domestic violence or R*pe culture.
In this case, queer erasure.
With how quick you are to defend this nonsense and not provide any context whatsoever I can only assume that this is what happened.
“Fandom Etiquette” is total bullshit because whenever a black person or a queer person that doesn’t fit your standards pops up on the screen, that shit goes out the fucking window and people wanna be racist and homophobic when someone they don’t like DARES to be part of a fandom.
Like you can’t just expect to be allowed to say and do stupid shit without people calling you out on it. Criticism is important and just because it’s calling you out on obvious shit doesn’t automatically make it bullying. Bullying would suggest they’re saying derogatory things against the creator as a person or saying stuff that doesn’t actually count as criticism or saying what’s actually wrong with the post or content being talked about.
Not everyone is going to agree with you and not everyone is going to want to debate you on this nonsense.
Maybe if you followed your own “Just Scroll if you don’t like it.” rhetoric, we wouldn’t have this problem.
Stop being hypocritical and just fucking use your brain for once and understand not everyone is going to just accept something happening because it’s fiction.
Fiction does and can affect reality, just because you don’t want to believe that doesn’t mean it’s not true.
This is why a lot of non shippers in fandoms can’t stand shippers period because of people like you. Because you have no fucking boundaries or lines to be crossed and you make us ALL look bad as shippers to non shippers.
And people like you HATE IT when people dare to see something for what it is but then you come out and say “It’s just fiction get over it.”
We know it’s fucking fiction, we’re allowed to criticize it, shut the fuck up.
How about next time you come with some fucking evidence before staying stupid shit because people disagreed with you in a TikTok comment section because you decided to be annoying and ignorant.
You people will just believe anything that comes out of people’s mouths as long as the person saying the nonsense is “Pro-Ship” or “Pro-Fic”.