#team vi

[sandraharissa]

Ok, so a lot of ppl make fun of Jinx being jealous over Cait bcos it seems that like a dummy she misunderstands that they’re girlfriends and that she, as a sister, is not getting replaced by a girlfriend.

But the thing is she IS getting replaced. 

When you think about it in terms of how unusual and unfair to Vi the situation is that she’s like 5 years older and yet she’s burdened with the full responsibility of caring for a mentally ill sibling, well- that could be a job for life. If Jinx took Vi on her offer to run away they’d have no one but each other, they’d co-habit and Vi’s whole attention would be consumed by managing/helping Jinx. Being Jinx’s caretaker is a full-time job and it was a full time job when she was Powder too. You don’t just stop being a parent. 

Caitlyn represents Vi building her own life separate from Jinx, her younger sibling, like ppl in early 20s do. She’s possessive and jealous over Vi the same way kids don’t like their new step-parents or are jealous over other siblings receiving attention from their parents. Jinx is extremely needy, and you can see in how she doesn’t care about making friends and how she doesn’t care about romance (possibly ignores/is oblivious to Ekko’s crush) that she’s not in a mental state where she wants to mature and grow up. As a neurodivergent child she actually always needed more time to grow up than others, but she was forced to grow up too fast and it’s always through these really traumatizing experiences. Growing up is an extremely painful process for Jinx and so she holds onto being a child as much as she can, it seems. She wants and needs a caretaker still, and Vi picking an enforcer girlfriends isn’t even just about needing to share, it’s potentially building a life that Jinx can’t be a part of.

Hence, ‘replacing’ but not in the sense that Cait is gonna be Vi’s new sister but that she’s getting a new life, one where she doesn’t need Jinx anymore and will abandon her parental duties towards her, smth that Jinx desperately needs and relies on daily cos she’s still a teenager, and which is ultimately exactly what happens.

[a-person-once-said]

Team Jinx or Team Vi

Team JINX 💣

Team VI 🥊

Voting ended onJun 18, 2024

[enthronedremains]

Arcane good. Arcane very good.

[junikshanasar]

AOUAEBVNAPIEZ;M JUST WATCHED THE PREMIERE FOR ARCANE AND FOLLOWED A STREAMER WHO PLAYED EPISODES 2 AND 3 TOO AND OMG I got way too excited lmao

but omg for realllll, like there are so many common tropes but they use ur predictions on what will happen based on the tropes and what we know abt the characters to subvert expectations multiple times and goshhhhhh this backstory is beautiful for the league of legends lore and everytime a new champion appears I get excited 

and man i rlly do love Vi now even tho I was team Jinx earlier (I used to main her back when I played like literal years ago lmao) but wowwww it’s just

blood-pumping

(it do be all powder’s fault, let’s be real)

anyway they rlly did a lot of promo for this, spent a bunch of money, and I feel it truly is treat for lol fans, but not rlly anyone else ahahaha

Like the art and animation is gorgeous, the voice actors are brilliant and the dialogue is witty, Heimerdinger ’s animation is frickin adorable, and we’re all just guessin who’s gonna become who, and how we’re gonna get to the present situation in the game

plus the opening is just so cool to me every time, the visuals paired with imagine dragons’ ‘enemy’ is soooo frickin rad 

(it helps that imagine dragons is my fav band lmao)

well anyway i love how all these red herrings and dropped hints about who’s who has got everyone theorizing. i shall enjoy just sitting back and watching it happen since I’m not exactly up-to-date on lol, so don’t come to me if you want educated discussion XD I depend on my brother for the gaps in my knowledge

anyway that was my unintentional and impromptu review on league of legends' ‘arcane.’ If you like league or pretty animation and art in general, give it a whirl man, the emotional and climax bits rlly hit, and the little details and misdirection are extraordinary

[sandraharissa]

imo while both Jinx’s feelings towards Cait and Vi’s towards Silco aren’t identical they both can be boiled down to three things: the job, the insecurity, the person themselves.

When it comes to Jinx’s feelings toward Cait I do think that her being an enforcer is crucial and that if she had a different profession that didn’t have "arrest Jinx" in its description that'd make the situation significantly better.

And while at the core Jinx is insecure over Vi’s love and would hypothetically be upset over anyone who came with Vi I do think Cait is special, bcos of her job, but also bcos of her in general. She's presented as a Jinx replacement for Vi in the narrative itself but also to Jinx's face by Sevika. She looks like her but she's more competent, cooler and stronger. A better Jinx. And it becomes quickly apparent to everyone, including Jinx, that there's also a potential for a future romance between Cait and Vi. This makes the two bond with each other extremely quickly which makes Jinx jealous and she starts viewing it as a competition as canon caitvi creates a possibility for Vi to love/like somebody more than her and to move on with her life and form a new family without Jinx. So yeah, if Cait wasn't an enforcer I do think Jinx would react way better, and if it wasn't Cait at all but somebody like Grayson or some random enforcer guy, somebody who Vi wouldn't fall in love with, then that'd also make the situation way better.

Similarly with Vi’s view of Silco tho I don’t really need to explain that one. The whole drug lord position he holds and the things Vi learns he did to the Undercity obvs makes it ten times worse and yes on some level Vi’s insecure over her relationship with Jinx and her ability to fix it as she finds out that bcos of her mistake Jinx essentially replaced her/Vander/the old family with Silco (and she probs would be a little jealous of anyone who took her place and arguably did a better job than her/bonded with Powder more even if they were completely unproblematic), but at the end of the day it’s about Silco being Silco, the guy who took everything from her. Her old Undercity, her family, Powder.

Just like Jinx is upset about being replaced by a shinier version of herself that's more appealing to Vi (as Jinx values strength and is afraid of being unappealing/a burden to others, so it hits her where it hurts) Vi is essentially upset about being replaced by a more wicked version of herself that has more influence on Jinx (as Vi values morality and has a sense of responsibility towards her younger siblings).

[sandraharissa]

I have no idea what s2 will bring.

The only thing I know is to brace myself for immediately starting the season off with the immediate fall-out of the explosion.

Scenes of the councilors trying to save their lives, us probs following Mel+Jayce+Viktor as they’re likely the only survivors, them seeing the horror of the situation, maybe seeing Cassandra dying and living through it all the while they have no idea what’s happening. Ppl walking out of their houses in the middle of the night to just see what the hell was that and seeing the tower burning. The absolute chaos on the streets, everybody’s out and watching, enforcers are losing it, maybe even immediate mobilization on the streets of Zaun, calling to action. Maybe Sevika/Chembarons thinking that it’s Silco’s doing and that it’s a planned and organized attack that they were kept in the dark about but really should have seen coming based on Silco’s goals and movement and the recent events. Cait’s horror at the scene and seeing her in the aftermath of her mother’s death, likely going through some mild corruption arc, and I don’t even know how Vi processing all that could look like. She’s freaking out cos Cait’s freaking out cos Cait’s mom is dead cos her sister went off the deep end. Likely a mourning/funeral/panic attack scene with Jinx and the introduction of the Silco hallucination. Just everybody screaming and freaking out. Not a single calm or content or triumphant person in sight. Just absolute chaos.

[sandraharissa]

One thing I wanted to talk about for a while now was the Vi/Silco and Jinx/Cait relationships.

The way they’re portrayed in act II and III, after irreparable damage was done, there’s no way they’d ever get along, but what strikes me is how well these characters are suited to each other pre-trauma/act I.

When I look at Powder and little Cait it’s striking how similar they are to each other. They’re both a bit of an outcast and a misfit, they’re both the baby of the family, they’re both already good shots, they’re both very pleasant and mild-mannered and gentle and they have an older sibling (Vi/Jayce) they look up to. When you look at Powder’s siblings none of them are as similar to Powder as Cait is, even if they care for her very much Cait would probably easily be the most easy to interact with and relatable peer to Powder (maybe outside of Ekko). And while I don’t know how old everyone is, based on their designs I’d guess that Cait is a bit younger than Vi, which would additionally make her closer to Powder’s age than Vi/Mylo/Claggor are. They obvs even look quite similar, like you could mistake them for sisters.

The same goes for Vi and Silco. They both have a similar hairstyle in act I (later they also have the same colored outfits). They both care deeply and personally about the revolution (this city’s gonna respect us/respect, opportunity, things they denied us) and in act I for both of them ‘revolution’ means the same thing. Vi’s a daddy’s girl and Silco is shown to be good with teen girls. She’s also shown to take the responsibility of caring for the other kids, especially Powder who she’s extremely protective of. If they met under normal circumstances and if Silco’s presence took a bit of that responsibility away from her and if he’d behave toward Powder in the same protective way we see in the show Vi would likely think he’s great. In canon they hate each other but Vi in act I comes off like a very sociable person so I don’t think she’d dislike Silco for no reason. She’d likely end up relying on him more than the other kids would and he’d be another way to convince Vander of things (like fighting).

Obvs tho, circumstances stand in the way of these relationships. I can’t imagine how little Cait and Powder, who seem so well suited to each other, would even end up interacting when one’s a councilor’s daughter and the other is currently wanted by law. Similarly, there’s no reason for a situation where Silco and Vi meet under normal circumstances to occur considering Silco’s goal and his beef with Vander. What could have been.

[sandraharissa]

And another thing.

This whole ‘Vi’s here for the crystal’ was a bit mishandled I think cos it always felt jarring. To an audience it’s so obvious that Vi would go back for Jinx that it creates the impression that believing she’s back just for the crystal is so out of left field that it needs an explanation as to why anyone would think it, like lying when it comes to Sevika and Silco and severe delusion when it comes to Jinx. But that in turn feels jarring for those characters cos from their personalities and the scenes I don’t get the vibe that Sevika/Silco were lying or that Jinx is THAT crazy delusional. I think it’s a disservice to the character when ppl are like ‘of course Jinx starts a one-sided rivalry with Cait, she’s crazy’, cos it’s kinda weak if that’s all that this conflict boils down to.

I think that having Sevika be the one to say it first and having all three characters come to this conclusion somewhat individually was an attempt to make it more believable to the audience who’s on Vi’s side and knows Vi’s thoughts that it’s a reasonable thing to believe but I think it kinda failed.

Which is kinda crazy cos it IS reasonable. The characters can’t read Vi’s mind and don’t know her/haven’t seen her for years, ppl believed so deeply she was dead that they can’t believe she’s really back like Jinx’s ‘are you real’ or ‘back from the dead??’ or Ekko’s reaction. Marcus lied so initially it’s not clear to anyone why she was missing anyway, but now she’s back and even tho she doesn’t know it she IS here for the crystal cos Cait is here for the crystal. Vi after all this time coming back immediately after the crystal was stolen is indeed not a coincidence, the only reason she was freed was to help find the crystal and arrest Jinx. So she is from the start put in an unfavorable position (working with a cop) that sets her up for legitimate suspicion from others and ultimately failure.

I wish they highlighted this more especially for Jinx’s sake cos her beef with Cait is quite important and yet feels hollow if there’s just no real basis for Jinx’s paranoia, ‘she’s just crazy and believes the craziest things’ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. I think it’s more compelling when we acknowledge that Jinx’s paranoia has a basis cos Cait is an enforcer and especially Jinx’s antagonism towards enforcers was well set up, Cait is indeed out for Jinx and the whole crystal situation does look suspicious for Vi, and the threat of being replaced is somewhat real cos ultimately this is indeed what was happening, similarly to how Jinx kinda replaced Vi with Silco and now is maybe afraid it will happen to her.