Ezra Klein:
“We often seem to me to be optimized for people’s 20s. You move somewhere. You’re pursuing a job. Again, that’s not what everybody does.
But then, as your life changes and you need support, you have children, you have health problems, you age, you have mental health problems, all the things that make us interdependent on others, our lives are in places where we don’t have a lot of support for that.
And our families are much smaller, and what we can ask of each other is somewhat less.
So you talk a lot throughout the book about isolation as a cause here, but you say that social isolation is the most under-discussed dimension of serious mental illness that there is. (…)”
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Thomas Insel
“In an era where everybody is online and connected more than ever supposedly, there’s a greater sense of loneliness, which is different than being alone but a sense of loneliness.
And you’re right. In the book I talk about how that is a feature of mental illness, which is one of the most disabling and difficult.
And when you talk to people who recover they almost always start by telling you about a person who had their back, someone who they trusted who gave them hope.
And so in putting my vision about how to fix this problem together, I came up with those three Ps.
It wasn’t my idea. It was the idea of a very wise street psychiatrist in L.A. who also was running the L.A. County Department of Mental Health, Jonathan Sherin who said, it’s really people, place and purpose.
If you provide those, people will, in fact, recover.
So the first part of that, that social support, is, I think, entirely critical, and it’s a great place to start.
And it could come from family. It could come from a peer who’s been down this road. It could come from a neighbor. There are all sorts of ways to make that happen.
And to build it into policy, it starts with things like having parental leave. It’s not in our value system, and I do think there’s a policy issue here that we ought to bring front and center.
It’s one of the reasons why I said, the problem here is medical, but the solutions are social, they’re environmental. But they’re also political.”
Source: The Ezra Klein Show: A Top Mental Health Expert on Where America Went Wrong





