HOT TAKE! You can't compare Glenn and Carl's deaths because they are wildly different, and Maggie's and Rick's way of grieving is different because of it.
NOW THIS IS MY OPINION. Don't start flaming me, but I started thinking about it because of the controversy of Daryl saying to Rick, 'You just gotta let [Carl] go.' and how people say that no one would say that to Maggie. BOTH GLENN AND CARL'S DEATHS WERE SAD, I cried so hard during Carl's deaths, and Glenn's was so devastating, but YOU NEED TO THINK ABOUT THE CIRCUMSTANCES.
Carl was bit, a freak accident (because he should've lived 😑), but he had time to say goodbye to his parents and sister, to write letters explaining what he wanted, and to accept his own demise. He died surrounded by those who loved him, feeling cared for until he pulled the trigger. And he died saving someone.
Glenn (and Abraham too) died violently, with a bat to the head, not knowing if their friends, partners, UNBORN CHILD in Glenn's case, were going to be okay. They didn't get to say goodbye, they didn't get any final words (ig Abraham did but that's not the point) and it wasn't in a caring, loving environment; it was with people with guns surrounding them, a mad man with a bat laughing and everyone crying.
Rick get's closure knowing that 1. the walker that bit Carl is dead, 2. He can strive to fulfill Carl's wishes, 3. That Carl died doing what he thought was right, and 4. That Carl would be happy knowing that Rick is trying to move on and progress, making Judith, Michonne and the rest of their family happy.
Maggie has to live with her husband/father of her child's murderer still being alive/now happy, consumed by trauma and rage that isn't properly managed. She will always remember her husband's bloody murder that happened right in front of her, as she tries to raise their son alone.
Now, Daryl never should've said that to Rick in the first place. Rick is allowed to grieve Carl and try to strive to what he wants for the future. But comparing Maggie and Rick (and Glenn and Carl) is stupid in this regard. Their emotions were both valid, but Maggie can't move on in the same way Rick could.
I don't think that C0nnie is trying to manipulate Daryl with the "family" thing. I think she likes him and that she really appreciated that he was there for her to find Kelly (and that he made her laugh and reassured her that everything would be okay). She definitely didn't know about the stealing because Kelly said to Magna, "tell them" (not just "him," tell "them" which indicates C0nnie didn't know). I think she genuinely feels bad about asking Daryl to lie because she doesn't want to risk her sister or Magna getting kicked out.
Concerning Daryl's reaction, I think he does trust that C0nnie wasn't in on the stealing. To me, the awkward, forced smile in response to her saying that they are family means that he doesn't consider her family, not because of mistrust, but because he just doesn't know her well enough to consider her family.
Friend, sure. Family? Nah. Here's a scenario that to me would have been equivalent: Consider when Aaron and Daryl were out recruiting people (season 5) and they got in the car trap set by the wolves. Consider if Aaron had said to Daryl right after they got out of that scrape, "We're family." I think Daryl would have been awkward and thinking, "dude, I don't know you like that. Do you have any idea what I have been through with my group?"
That's just my two cents (as if it's even worth that)
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This is a Lori Grimes rant post. I'm fully aware of the heap of shit that can emerge from this post and I'm fully capable of debating said shit. I have no interest in quarrels. This is just opinionated and neither here nor there ♡
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So lets start by making it clear, Lori believed Rick was dead. She was a stay at home mom/ house wife. No survival skills and depended on her husband, pre-apocalypse life. Lori was vulnerable and used Shane to cope. She is obviously a woman who finds comfort in intimacy. A lot of woman are like that. Shane protected her and got her and Carl to safety. They witnessed the world end together. Shit happens. And Shane told her Rick was dead. She believed Shane. She trusted him. And if Shane would have told the TRUTH, Lori could have went after Rick and saved him, or maybe died trying. But then we would have got an entire different character arc for her. But anyways that's why Shane lied or said what he said to make her believe Rick is dead. So he could get her and Carl out of there and so she wouldn't go after Rick and die doing so.
Then as soon as Rick came back she embraced her husband. Told Shane they were a mistake and the truth is, it was. That's why Shane broke...you guys saw that right? Lori told Rick, Shane is dangerous. She never said kill him. Shane literally went up to Lori and said "I thought he was dead. Then when he came back, right then, right there, you see I wished he was." I would have told my husband too like wtf. And she just had that convo with Dale about Shane. Dale thought Shane killed Otis and HE DID. Dale told Lori, Shane is dangerous and right there and then is when Lori realized it too. Rick was a man about it to Shane. Shane should have left that group and went out on his own so he wouldn't have to live with seeing what he lost. But no he stayed and it drove him insane. He led himself to his own fate by lying to Lori in the first place about Rick. Lori admitted putting Rick and Shane at odds. She apologized to Shane , even though that's not enough but she still took blame for everything that happend. And once she found out Shane was dead and killed by her husband...she probably felt like even more shit. I get how people could be angry with her. How she moved on so quickly and out of all people, his bestfriend!? Yep mistakes happen. Life goes on. Get over it. Rick did, why can't you?
The main reason Lori got mad at Rick for killing Shane is because Rick allowed Carl to put Shane's reanimated self down, no matter how it happened. She didn't want to let go of the old world and she felt she needed to shelter Carl from the violence. And it pissed her off knowing Rick just let it happen. Rick says to Lori "I just wanted it over, I wanted him dead. I killed him." To Lori, Rick took the easy way out by killing Shane. That's why she was mad.
Yes, Lori tried to abort Judith. Do you know how many woman probably aborted or abandoned or killed there babies in that kind of world? She was scared shitless and she knew, she knew the pregnancy would be the death of her because she knew she would need a C-section. And that's why Rick never wanted to talk about it once reaching the prison. Just wanted to pretend like it would all be good. Anyway, she then INSTANTLY puked the pills up. And because of her willing sacrifice, we now have Judith.
Yes, she lost hope when Carl got shot and thought he would die. She felt as if he was suffering and just maybe he would be better off dead anyway because what's the point in this kind of life. Obviously, Rick disagreed and didn't accept that and I didn't either.....but everyone loses hope once in a while. I'm not justifying it but any parent will doubt and worry and grow sick with just the thought of "what if".
And then people say she's a bad mom and never knew where Carl was. To be honest, Carl Grimes don't need no babysitter. Rick and Lori raised Carl to be independent, and so he was. Lori just didn't want to accept that and hold on to the old world. But Lori fought, she killed walkers and defended Rick when Sophia went missing. You all make her out to be horrible. She was Rick's first wife. She is Carl's and Judith's biological mother. Rick and Carl loved her so much.
And Lori was absolutely right. "If it seems easy, don't do it, don't let the world spoil you." Carl experienced this with killing the kid from the governors group. It was so easy to kill. It's a domino effect throughout the entire series. It's why Carl wanted peace between Negan and Rick. Lori was right. I live by this...I really do. It's hard to stand up for what's right. But I know I ain't no coward for doing so.
I cried so hard and I'll cry everytime I watch this scene.
Please, please, please stop comparing Lori to Michonne. Michonne believed Rick was still alive. She searched for his body and found nothing. She went out there, on her own and found proof he was still alive. Michonne was a woman who already been through shit before meeting Rick. She's a skilled survivor and was a asset to the group from the get go. Lori was a chapter for Rick. Michonne is the love of his life because that is who he will be with for the rest of his life in this new world. The life Rick had with Lori can't be compared to Rick and Michonnes. It just can't be. Lori was a "you can do this" wife. Michonne is a "we can do this" wife. Two total different woman.
HAVING BETH AND TYREESE'S DEATH BE AN EPISODE APART WAS STUPID AS HELL, LET'S TALK.
First off, both shouldn't of gone out like that 😞 Beth was only just reaching the peak of her character, she was learning how to fight and stand up for herself ONLY TO BE KILLED IN AN ACCIDENT. AND TYREESE OMG you're telling me that THE TANK HIMSELF, who took on Daryl and Rick, WHO ESCAPED A HORDE WITH ZERO INJURIES, DIED BECAUSE HE WAS SPACING OUT?? Stupid way to kill him off, although him hallunicating was super interesting STILL SHOULDN'T OF DIED.
Ik beth and tyreese's death was important for Maggie, Daryl's and Sasha's character growth, but instead, we could've focused on Hershel, or Bob's death?? They died and it was basically never brought up again after Alexandria 🤦♂️
But ik they wanted a mid season death, so IMO I would've killed Beth as an symbol of lost hope/youth/faith, KEPT TYREESE ALIVE and killed him off later, like during the savior war or negan's reign over alexandria for motivation for sasha and the rest of the group. I LOVED HIM, BUT BETH'S DEATH OVERSHADOWED HIS COMPLETELY, I WAS STILL GRIEVING MY GIRL WHEN TYREESE GOT BIT 💀
Anyways, complete fumble, only wanted shock factor and didn't really shock me just made me shake my head in disappointment at lost potential and excessive waste
I literally can't watch season 7 of The Walking Dead without cringing or crying or yelling at the screen.
The whole time I'm watching it I'm just sitting here thinking of Shane and Rick back in season 2 arguing with eachother and Rick says "Stop acting like you know the way ahead, like you know the rules. There are no rules, man. We're lost"
And I just want to scream that in Negans and every single Saviors face throughout all of season 7......
You wana demand to take ownership of all my belongings in a world with nothing left....expect war.
It literally hurts and erks me to have to watch that season....
i haven’t seen any theories on what might be happening to maggie...does anyone have some ideas? i’m not convinced that she’s miscarrying because that would diverge too much from the comics...are the writers really just leaving this cliff hanger for the drama? what do you guys think?
