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[moontheoretist]

Types of Possessions in Dragon Age world

Monsterification:

The possession can involve strong emotions but doesn't have to (it depends on the case, as it's hard to assume rocks or dead bodies have emotions, but places within the game can have lingering echoes of strong emotions that make such possessions more likely to occur within such area - spirits will just possess whatever).

It's unclear if such possession needs consent to occur.

The possession can be forced by a third party.

The person that gets possessed gets horrifically transformed.

The transformation can't be reveresed after it happens.

The person is driven mad by the transformation.

The possession can be prevented by Litany of Andralla.

Example: Slavren (DAO), Witherfang (DAO), Olivia (DA2)

There are other types of this type of possession that include objects, animals, plants or even corpses. It includes creatures such as: Sylwans (possession of a tree), Arcane Horror (possession of a mage's corpse), Rock Wraith (possession of a rock), Reverant, Skeleton (possession of a corpse), werewolf (possession of a wolf) and more similar cases.

Puppet:*

Person that gets possessed is trapped in the Fade.

Demon takes over the body and wrecks havoc all around, but isn't physically present inside the body of the host (?).

There is no transformation of the body.

The person can be saved by killing the demon in the Fade.

Needs established consent (with demon it will be a deal).

Examples: Uldred (DAO), Connor (DAO)

Teacher:

Person that gets possessed is a living willing host.

It's the opposite of the Puppet - person and the spirit coexist in a type of symbiosis, while the person is taught by the spirit.

There is no visible transformation of the body.

Person and a spirit can be separated via special rituals.

Example: Sigrid Gulsdotten (DAI: Jaws of Hakkon)

Impersonator:

The possessed person is already dead.

Spirit / demon is convinced they're the dead person or posses all the memories of the dead person as if they were them. (Demon may refer to the host as "food" separating itself from the host, while spirit will be confused by the memories of the body).

There is no visible transformation of the body, in fact the body is to some extent preserved thanks to the possession. (In case of a demon there is a second voice hearable when the person speaks).

Example: Sophia Dryden (DAO: Soldier's Peak), Kristoff? (DAO:A)

Revival:

The possessed person is already dead.

The spirit enters the body of the dead person and revives them. It's unclear if the spirit simply ties the soul of the dead person back to their body or assumes the role of said person. (It's quite possible that the spirit could think they're the person that already died or that the soul of the dead person turned into the spirit).

No visible transformation of the body, voice or personality.

No emotional outbursts.

Example: Wynne (DAO), Evangeline de Brassard (novel: Asunder)

* Could be also a different type of Merging described below.

**If we consider what happened to Evangeline the spirit may simply just attach itself to the soul and provide a link to the body (so called "spark of life") that is maintained until the spirit leaves the body.

Merging:

The possessed person is a living willing host.

The spirit and the person merge into one being.

It's not possible to separate them as they're already one.

No visible transformation of the body. (Possible visible veins of the Fade light and change of the voice when the spirit is fronting).

Possible emotional outbursts. (Due to taint corruption?)

Possibly person and the spirit loose sense of selves with time to become a fully integrated single personality.

Needs established consent (with demon it will be a deal).

Example: Anders (DA2), Flemeth (DAO, DA2, DAI)

Note: I wanted to add Cole here, but when I was writing down the criteria I noticed for possession I realized that Cole is a spirit that impersonates the dead person, not a spirit that took over his body. (Correct me if I'm wrong here, because I'm pretty sure he was seen as a free roaming spirit that just looked like a human - like the spirits of the old that could just randomly take on the mortal looking body).

*I just realized I forgot about one case of possession. Amalia from Stone Prisoner DLC. It's similar case to Puppet, but the difference is that the demon is already physically in the mortal world (?). It inhabits a body of a cat and tries to convince Amalia to willingly give her body out. When Amalia gets possessed she gets possessed in the mortal world by a demon that was trapped in the mortal world - her body doesn't change. When Amalia attacks you she doesn't turn into an Abomination monster model, she turns into Desire Demon itself.

^ TBH I'm still not sure if Demon is in the mortal world or in the Fade. As the difference between location is barely discernible in the game. So it's hard to say if demons we meet are in the Fade or mortal world.

Veilguard spoilers below:

Edit 10.12.2024: I'm still thinking where Lucanis fits in this entire thing as I wrote this before I played the game. I still didn't finish the game and don't know everything about Lucanis. So far it looks like to be a case similar to what Tarohne was doing to the Templar recruits in DA2. All of them were people that weren't mages, but in every single case of them they ended up taken over by the demon. Whatever Zara Renata was trying to achieve ended with Lucanis being possessed in a similar way but there seems to be a barrier that stops Spite from taking over Lucanis body and do whatever it wants unless Lucanis guard is down (i.e. when he sleeps) - may have something to do with counciousness. It doesn't seem to be a case of merging even tho it looks similar. Tho it may as well be a case of merging but because we have a demon rather than a spirit here it's more unstable. It still doesn't explain why Spite can't just take over Lucanis when Lucanis is awake and has to wait for him to fall asleep to be able to do what it wants (this idea was explored only in fanfiction before with Justice taking over Anders when asleep).

[ringofdoubt]

Found this in my notes. Zero memory of writing it but I think I can guess where it was supposed to be going 🙈

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"You don't travel with your manservant?"

Loghain looked at him with an air of distaste, "I don't have a manservant."

"Oh?" Uldred looked delighted, "Then Irving, we absolutely must have someone attend to the Teryn while he's our guest."

"Ah - yes quite," agreed Irving.

"Jowan,' Uldred beckoned his apprentice over with a handwave, 'You're up to the task, aren't you?"

[kreaturetoys]

Fat Fade Friday Thursday

[dirtybiowareconfessions]

Confession: yeah I could take Uldred (not in a fight)

[liznfin]

Listen, it is always a bald guy in Thedas

[tavtiers]

A hypothetical god tier for Uldred from Dragon Age: the Mage of Rage.

A Mage of Rage is among those who explore faith in possibility. They are motivated by themselves to know defiance. (x) The Mage of Rage has trouble forgiving their own mistakes and hates complacency. (x) They are the Genius Revolutionary, defined by introspection and defiance. (x) Their opposite is the Seer of Hope. Their inverse is the Heir of Hope. They share their personality with the Bard of Mind. The Mage of Rage would quest on a planet similar to the Land of Thought and Rage, reigned over by Ares (God of War). They would rise to ascension on the wings of imps. (x)(x)(x)

[jellysharkbat]

It's nearly 4 am, I haven't been able to sleep, and I'm an evil, evil person:

So what if Inky and Co find some sort of artifact and bring it back to Skyhold. After fiddling with it for a bit, it activates. Some sort of magic happens after Inky & friends discover an inscription saying something about summoning monsters, along with a spell that Inky unthinkingly recites.

A very realistic projection appears, of a man wearing Circle robes. A mage. He's not particularly impressive looking, being maybe slightly older and completely bald. There is an air of arrogance around him though. His expression is strangely off-putting too, although no one can quite say why.

No one knows who he is or how he's connected to the artifact.

Then there's an odd choking noise by the doorway. It's Cullen.

Cullen looks completely caught off guard and horrified- no, it's worse than that. He's completely frozen, looking at the projection in terror. His mouth falls open, but nothing comes out. Color drains out of Cullen's face at an alarming rate.

Maybe he falls to his knees. Maybe he collapses completely. Maybe he manages to choke out a few barely whispered pleas to leave him alone, that he can be good, that he'll do whatever that man tells him, to kill him, to spare him. Maybe he's shaking. Maybe he begins reciting the Chant. Maybe he's taking a very abrupt trip down memory lane and his mind isn't in Skyhold anymore.

Whatever his reaction is, it's freaking his friends out.

His eyes are completely focused on the projection before them and nothing can tear them away. No, that's not right. It's not that Cullen can't look away. He doesn't dare look away, even when the man's image flickers and disappears- artifact now momentarily depleted of its magic.

And what do you know? That little inscription was right. It did summon a monster after all.

[the-cryptographer]

Content warning for fake Thedas history & politics~~

When it comes to the Mage Rebellion and inevitable finger pointing that happens because of it, people have the tendency to either argue that Anders started it or that the Chantry (or one of its various arms such as the Templars or Seekers) did. And I understand why given the (infuriating) way canon frames the issues, and the general tendency to want the events of DA2 (and Hawke as their player character) to have a more profound and global effect than they do. But I want people to understand that on a grand, historical scale, nobody’s going to be nitpicking the seven years between Uldred’s Revolt at Kinloch in 9:30 and Anders’s Chantry Bombing and the (attempted?) Annulment at Kirkwall’s Gallows in 9:37 Dragon. Anders’s movement will probably be seen as a reactionary offshoot of Uldred’s. And I think correctly so, given their internment at Kinloch was contemporaneous, given Anders’s lover, Karl, was a libertarian in Kinloch’s fraternities at the same time that Uldred was.

What I’m saying is Uldred started the Mage Rebellion. Discuss.