#venus 12h

[theprettiestaries]

Total Eclipse of the Heart - Bonnie Tyler

“Your love is a like shadow on me all of the time” this lyrics is giving the 12h venus synastry tbh.

[sillybruja]

Okay, I’m shocked about your Venus in 12H observation because…I thought I was reading a passage of myself. That was too accurate oh my god. (Scorpio Venus and Mars 12H).

Ah, I'm glad it resonated! But also, yikes! 😬

Now obviously I would need to look at your whole chart but knowing that your Mars is there, I almost feel like you not only have chosen the wrong people in the past, but you've given more than you've ever received. You have been like a sacrificial lamb in your relationships and I don't just mean like romantic relationship this is any deep personal connection. But with Mars here, this tells me that your motives have always been misconstrued or misunderstood. You might have never gotten proper credit for how you show up for the ones you love, but instead were seen as someone with negative intentions or just not properly seen as you intended. That placement is definitely a double edged sword because on one hand, you can speak your truth and people will still not believe you, and on the other hand, you can lie and people will still not believe you. You can be open about your life and people will make up stories, or you can be private and people will find a way to make you the bad guy.

[myun-saidthoughts]

Understanding 8th House Synastry:

8th house (or even 12th/harsh pluto) synastry in one nutshell:

if the love you have for yourself is lower than the desire to be loved, a part of you will always want them.

If you have unresolved abandonment wounds from someone choosing others over you, the internal conflict between wanting to move on and wanting to stay will persist. If they've repeatedly put you in situations that tested your self-worth, yet you still don’t resent their very existence, your desire for them may always overpower reason. Their absence hurts more than the endless trials and errors you endure. Their presence alone overrides all logic, leaving you with the lingering thought that, somehow, their treatment of you was justifiable.

In most cases the emotions that persevere are either love or hate, this synastry creates this black or white, all or nothing, I need you, to I can't stand you type of tennis match. So, if you don't choose yourself over the acceptance that they give you, your void (that they are able to fill) will always be vacant.

You’ll always crave their energy, their touch. You’ll find yourself searching for them in other faces, seeking that same feeling in someone else. You’ll compare the emotions they evoked to everyone who crosses your path, only to realize that the standard they set is unreachable. No one can fit into the box they so meticulously crafted, and no one can replicate the unique energy that exists between the two of you.

they'll walk into a bar and after weeks, months, years even and you'll make eye contact with them, and if the love you have for yourself is lower than the desire to be loved, you can't help but walk straight towards them, with open arms. it doesn't matter what they said, or what they did, all that matters is that their eyes, their touch hits you in places that you can't even reach, places that are hidden within you.

They are a reminder of the depths of love you’re capable of reaching. They were the one *thing* that made you believe you were lovable, the one *thing* that opened the door to accepting love. And now, here they are, standing in front of you. What do you do? You can’t help but feel the overwhelming urge to invite them back in. The void they once filled was made so warm and comforting by their presence, and now that same void calls out only for them.

How do you let the one person who brought in the idea of accepting love go? How do you let the one person who allowed you to fully feel become out of reach? How do you say good bye to the one person who brings you the sense of home you never felt, leave? How do you turn away from the person who makes you feel whole, when all you want is to hold onto that feeling forever?

How do you choose yourself instead?

Their presence transpires this fulfilling feeling in you and that feeling disappears every time you look away from them; it even hides from you.

How do you let go of the version of yourself that feels whole and healed, when they hold the key to the deepest parts of your soul? You want nothing more than to latch onto that hidden fortress, yet somehow, it only disappears every time you look in the mirror.

You don’t know how to love yourself, and you don’t know how to fill that empty part of you. You can’t help but silence the little girl inside you who is crying to be heard. But when they entered your life, they somehow soothed her. They gave her the sense of home she never had and the safety she had always longed for.

How do you override that soft yet overpowering desire that is screaming at you to let them in. That desire has one goal, and that goal is to just accept loves offer, and with everyone else you can't.

You can’t allow yourself to be loved in the way you truly long for, yet with them, that desire flows effortlessly. Letting them go feels like letting go of the one thing that soothes your deepest void—only to let it grow even more unbearable.

Understanding that the connection you share can be beautiful, yet it comes with one undeniable truth: you must always choose yourself. More often than not, this person entered your life not to stay, but to help you rebuild the value and worth you’ve lost. They came to teach you a lesson—to show you that while someone important in your past may have chosen others over you and left you with wounds you’ve buried deep, the home you keep searching for in others can only be found within yourself.

P.S This post reflects the complex emotions tied to toxic and chaotic relationships, particularly when one person struggles with self-worth and fears vulnerability or the acceptance of true love. For those who don’t resonate with this dynamic, the intensity might seem foreign or exaggerated. In the context of 8th house synastry, there are always two sides to the energy it brings, but here, the focus is on where people may find themselves struggling. It’s important to offer space for reflection on why letting go of such a connection can feel impossibly hard. This energy has the power to consume you, and for those who can relate, know this: you’re not alone, nor are you “crazy” for holding on to something that feels illogical, unrealistic, or unattainable. Recognizing these struggles is the first step toward understanding and healing.

Book a synastry reading with me or purchase my karmic astrology ebook that is curated towards 8th and 12th house synastry: https://myunsaidthoughts.gumroad.com

It has more precise definitions regarding the placements of the IC, Moon aspects, and the potential manifestations of each inner planet in the 8th or 12th house for individuals. As well as it provides information if the person you're connected to is a karmic connection, it has advice, insights and exact transits/synastry overlays to further understand the connection.

[1111jenx]

Thoughts on a 12H Leo Venus (29 degree) and North Node cuz my love life is pretty sad tbh which makes me sad when I think about it and also idk i have no idea what my north node means like what is my life purpose?? it's all so BLURRY.

Hey beautiful,

I too have a 12H Leo Venus in 17° which is also a Leo degree:) (my chart ruler is Leo rising - Sun in Cancer 11H) however, yours is much more prominent esp if you have it in 29°!!!

I had always believe that 12H is the hidden house, yet others see this side of you very clearly. To put it in simple terms I'll say this!

Leo Venus 29° degree(Leo degree) 12H: High standards. Would not settle for anything less. May have been bullied for their looks as a child or didn't acknowledge their beauty when they were young. Image conscious. May be very conflicted with their own self worth. However, 29° signify that you may find love later in life, most likely would have to endure several karmic relationships and heartbreak before meeting the one. Try to relocate your passions and anxiety to something else, I notice that Leo Venus rly benefits from an aesthetically pleasing environment where you can shine! Should for sure try acting or any kind of arts. Use art as your emotional outlet:) Tendency to fall for sketchy people so be careful!!! Highly idealistic and dreamy. LOYALTY ABOVE ALL ELSE.

-> You should for sure check aspects in your chart to your Venus for more explanation. If you have venus aspects saturn this may even heightened your standards💀 and lets say if this aspects to neptune it can even further blurs your definition between your own dillusion realm and physical realm.( in love with love, in love with the idea of someone, imagine romantic misery)

As for your Leo NN: Leo NN natives have a deep desire to be seen. Acknowledgement and validation from others are important to you guys but at the end of the day, you must master giving yourself the attention you crave from others. Leo talks about courage, strength and creativity. I'd say you have to fulfill your mission in this life by enabling all of these traits. We'd have to look deeper into the degree, your MC and the house ur NN is in to determine your career path:)

Venus in 12H is a curse, yes I know this. It makes us seem unavailable sometimes to others. Yet I learn that only us can manifest our realities. Once you decided to embrace your lioness traits and open your heart to the world, you'll see through all of the foggy cues and lies:)

goodluck dear!!

love,

saint jenx🖤

[myun-saidthoughts]

8H Synastry: How The House Person Feels When They're Plutonian

(This is my interpretation: I have a Scorpio Moon and it's squaring my Neptune and a 12H Venus/Pluto/Mercury/Lilith/Chiron)

with strong attraction + natal plutonic/8H/12H placements + other intense asteroid/synastry/house overlays

8H synastry will have you contemplating your self worth, it will make you become hyper sensitive towards the planet person's actions. Your body will react before your mind truly can. Suddenly, logic ceases to exist. Nothing else matters but the touch of them.

The trials and errors that persist somehow hurt less than the idea of them walking away. You can't help but desire to be around them because this high can't be reached without this person.

The depths of the disappointment that can manifest from their choices is overwhelmingly present. They make you second guess what is and what isn't okay. You feel that they can understand you, and that part of you believes they want to understand you.

It's like you're walking into a lions den with no protection, and you have no idea if this lion will attack you or not.

You feel this underlying risk and yet, you walk towards it.

You walk towards this forbidden area because there's a curiosity that's reaching the darkest and deepest areas in you that's wishing to be seen by another, it fills your void of wanting be fully loved.

Their presence holds the key to your souls' hidden desire to love,

and they somehow allow you to feel okay with receiving the love.

So your soul wants to drink this poison, their touch is the liquid and your soul is asking you to fill the cup, there's a soft voice in the back of your head and it's whispering "they will give you the peace you wish you felt."

They allow you to accept the desire to be vulnerable, their lingering eyes are your green light.

Your soul is terrified with how deeply you can truly feel and yet with their presence, the mask within you dissipates. It's like they're screaming your name without even saying a word.

You can't hide your emotions, or your feelings towards them, they somehow override any control you thought you had. You don't want this person to read you like a book, but just their touch alone turns the pages. When you look at them, your eyes scream a story they can only read.

When the energy between you feels unsteady, the part of you that withholds the void of wanting a connection, deepens.

This awakening creeps up in you and with it comes the terrifying realization that this person can break you but when you're with them, that "knowing" feels okay.

You're aware that there will be an unavoidable low following their absence; and instead of walking away, you prepare yourself for its inevitable arrival.

You allow this pain to embody you because that pain hurts less than not feeling those moments of acceptance that their eyes are able to give you, especially if it's what you've always reluctantly wished for.

Without them, the thought of receiving any love from anyone else feels unsafe, and it feels impossible.

This kind of vulnerability runs so deep within your veins, it creates a threshold that they can only reach.

A part of you can feel their intentions, you can feel their soft curiosity towards you, but the words you yearn for them to say, somehow never comes.

No matter how many times this cycle repeats and no matter how badly you want to change the narrative, you can't.

You'll still want them.

Book a synastry reading with me or purchase my karmic astrology ebook that is curated towards 8th and 12th house synastry: https://myunsaidthoughts.gumroad.com

It's about 8th/12th/Pluto/Neptune/Saturn/Vertex/Nodal synastry. I give insights, exact transits, exact synastry overlays, natal chart interpretations and more advice on what to do in these situations.

[myun-saidthoughts]

12H Venus: You Want A Love To Consume You

But your eyes only gives me the sense of reassurance my soul calls for

For starters, I believe having this placement along with a water moon or venus (scorpio, pisces or cancer) especially with the moon or venus aspecting (oppose, square, conjunct) harsh malefics such as Pluto/Neptune maybe even Uranus would create this placement to be more prominent in your romantic life.

Usually, especially with a water moon or (venus) and those planets (especially moon) making aspects would possibly mean that the love your mom or past partnerships gave you was chaotic or heavy, maybe it was all or nothing, a constant back and fourth where if she either showed you love or hate; to the point where the love was there, then it wasn't (scorpio) or you wanted to fix and be their savior because that was the kind of love you had to give to your parents, you mother cried to you about her pain and you had to console and hear all of the hurt she felt, (pisces) or perhaps you had to take over and give/be the caregiver towards your parents. your parents or mother looked at you for answers instead of taking on that parental role (cancer), (the severity depends on the chart) but now because of that chaos you felt, it's only natural to want to feel so much with only looking into the eyes of another. Because of that love you now search for the same deep transformative experiences.

With this placement, you naturally will take on Pisces and Neptune qualities. The love you long for is deep, unworldly, profound even. You want a love to consume you. A love to change you. A love to bring you in a different point of life. A love to be something you never felt before. The kind of love you only can dream about. Something that feels unreal, or untouchable. Something that feels so out of reach yet in your arms. You want to feel their soul and embody a part of them. You want the look in their eyes to bring you a feeling you've ever only fantasized about. You want someone to make you feel different compared to everyone else you've ever came across; and you want a love that is unspoken and spiritual.

You want a transformative soul binding unexplainable connection.

On another note, having this placement could manifest in an ‘elusive’ way. As I mentioned, the love you desire may be eternal and ethereal, but it could also mean falling for people who are unattainable or out of reach. You may find yourself drawn to someone who will inevitably leave, or you fall for someone you know you can’t have. You might feel ‘comfortable’ in that role, accepting the position of the other woman, or being hidden from the person you love. They may withhold their attention from you in public, or you might fall for people who need saving or fixing. Their internal struggles or emotional needs could create barriers for the relationship to grow, which ultimately prevents your own emotional needs from being met. This also can hinder the relationship from reaching stability or commitment. And in some other cases, the partners you choose might be ‘ashamed’ of you or uncomfortable with being open about your relationship. Affairs or deception may become recurring themes (undesirably so), but for you, falling into these situations might feel inevitable or difficult to avoid.

In the basis of it all, you tend to fantasize or picture a reality with your chosen crush or lover. You ultimately choose longing over ever holding and that state, that wishing, longing, or waiting state feels comfortable, it feels familiar. You could find yourself feeling so deeply for someone you may not have a deep connection to. You may sit in your feelings instead of acting on them or choose to avoid and suppress these emotions or desires. Wanting someone you know you can’t have feels safe, and picturing the ideal reality where you have them seems easier and less frighting. You might choose someone who may love you in private, and from past experiences, insecurities and fear, that feels the most ‘safe’ enough to experience.

This type of pattern may or may not come from being afraid of real intimacy, love and connection. Whether it be because of parents or past partnerships as I previously said, the idea of a real tangible love is out of your comfort zone, something you say you yearn for yet possibly deny (depending on other aspects of your chart). Not accepting that you have insecurities or some fear regarding partnerships will manifest this pattern to keep happening.

(There is a reason why you experience the same pattern and fall for the ones that seem to give you everything you don't truly want. The ones you subconsciously choose can't really love you. Possibly deep down, you might be afraid to accept the true depths of what it can mean to have or to hold someone because you know how deep you can really feel)

Venus represents the ideas of pleasure, joy, desire, lust and love, it being hidden in your 12H, the house of the unseen, your subconscious, your dreams, a part of you that you hide away, the part of you that's not shown to anyone else. It's so prevalent and important yet so hard to even comprehend or logically articulate. It's unspoken feelings and desires.

This usually can indicate that the love you search for would be catalysts for change whether you are aware of it or not. And once you find someone to make you feel this unworldly emotion, you might make yourself fall for them over and over again, rethinking and imagining scenarios where your emotions exceed logic and to the point where that person becomes just a dream. In the extreme part of it, the person your imagining is no longer in front of you, but in your head. Suddenly they now showcase as someone that has their real identity or true colors, hidden.

This part of you creates the idea of letting someone go unrealistic. Saying goodbye hardly happens because in your mind, there's always room for redemption. Especially if you find someone who not only fits the 'ideal' but gives you the ethereal emotion you've only dreamt about.

Because of this, it's important to remember to stay grounded, aware and comfortable with the idea of what can occur. You can't change someone, or fix their wounds. Fall for the one that will accept your undying love, not the one who would rather hide you away and not the one where you don't (or can't) even truly have them. Not everyone will want to feel as deeply as we do, and not everyone will understand the depth of emotion that we can offer, but the right person will.

I have a Sagittarius 12H Venus Sextiling my Neptune with a Scorpio Moon aspecting harshly to my Neptune. These are only my experiences, since this is a short thread I can't type every scenario out, but the basis of it all; this placement can indicate that finding a love to be difficult or unreachable. I hear you, I feel you, and once you are aware and accept the patterns or partners you choose, will you then find the soulful connection you fantasize about.

It's out there and you do deserve it.

Book a synastry reading with me or purchase my karmic astrology ebook that is curated towards 8th and 12th house synastry: https://myunsaidthoughts.gumroad.com

It's about 8th/12th/Pluto/Neptune/Saturn/Vertex/Nodal synastry. I give insights, exact transits, exact synastry overlays, natal chart interpretations and more advice on what to do in these situations.

[straydelivery]

Being a 12h Venus is a beautiful yet tragic experience; my love is sacrificial, pure, and hidden. It doesn’t go noticed, or appreciated - not until they lose me. My sacrifices, my heart, my soul, always feels to be in vain until they come back. Why can’t I be appreciated when I’m here? Why must your love for me be hidden? Love me openly or not at all. I care so much, I feel so deeply, but nobody else is like me. Being a 12h Venus is a lonely experience; you’re always misunderstood, and second best. Your friends start to envy you, for beauty you’ve not recognized in yourself. You never once felt beautiful in your life; no one noticed. You grew up feeling flawed, ugly, and inhumane; you were alone. Nobody liked you. You felt you had to overcompensate for your looks; love harder.