My First WoW guild experience
As many of you know, I’ve been taking a break from league, while still looking up on who is getting what skins, and I’ve been fully indulging myself in World of Warcraft.
With Shadowlands being released, I’ve been spending a lot of time grinding almost all 14 of my level 50s to level 60, but then being unsure whether I should put a character in a covenant for transmog or because the covenant class abilities synergizes well with their kits. (FUCK BEING A BASTION DRUID, NIGHT FAE IS FOR THE DRUIDS!). I’ve been wanting to put my blood elf fire mage in Venthyr because Venthyr are snotty-snobs who love having tea parties and that’s literally PERFECT for my snotty blood elf, and the transmog is fantastic, BUT the class ability isn’t as strong as Night fae.
It’s a struggle, it truly is.
I’m going into this expansion guild-less, sort of like how I started mid-way through bfa guild-less, but I wanted to tell you the roller coaster that was being in a guild for the first time.
The VERY first guild I was in, I can’t even recall the name. I mainly just joined it so I’d stop getting spammed guild invites from random people. I wasn’t even in the guild discord, (guilds can be VERY tight-knit social things. For my league friends reading this, think like clubs with really intense, clingy discord groups).
One day, someone messaged the guild chat in-game, “hey, who still hasn’t gotten their Uncorrupted Voidwing mount? I’m down to do a couple more runs.”
I responded back to them, “hey, I’m pretty geared and I haven’t done it yet, I’d love to give it a shot.”
A bit of back story on this mount, it was a mount that you could only get doing the heroic or mythic Ny’zoth raid AND it was going away before the new expansion.
(That’s me when I eventually got it)
My friends had already gotten it without me and they were going on a WoW hiatus. I tried to get my boyfriend on to play some wow with me, he’s a tank, but he hadn’t been leveling up his gear and didn’t complete the raid prior, Azshara’s raid, so he had no interest. He was also working at lot of hours and told me wow is the kind of game where you want to be able to sit down and play a lot of it, “I need to be in the mood to play wow,” which I wasn’t going to force him. The new expansion was coming out soon anyway, so why play the old content when new content is coming?
After I had messaged back that guild member, they went offline. I thought that was strange, but I brushed it off and continued doing my embassy world quest dailies. My deadly boss mods or details damage meter later gave me a message that my guild has wiped trying to kill Wraithion in 3 minutes, the first boss of the Nyloth raid.
Oof, they were doing it without me.
IN THEIR DEFENSE, I wasn’t a part of the discord group. Many guilds rely on discord when raiding to hear callouts and be able to communicate; HOWEVER no one reached out to me after seeing my interest of wanting to do the raid.
It wasn’t like I had just joined the guild that day, I was “exalted” with the guild and had been in there for awhile- just had never really done any group activities.
The new expansion was only a couple months away and after getting another message that my guild wiped on Wraithion again, I decided to leave the guild.
NOW this is where the hell begins.
I was standing in Boralus when I had finally typed in the /leave. Not even a minute goes by when a big Kul Tiran dude turns around and stares at me for a bit. I then received a private message from the Kul Tiran, “hey, I noticed you left your guild. What happened?”
I responded, “oh, I wasn’t really involved in the guild, but today I was told they were doing heroic Ny’zoth and I wanted to come along- but they went without me. So I left.”
“Oh... Would you want to join my guild?”
I wasn’t really sure but the time was ticking to get the Uncorrupted Voidwing.
“Are you guys active and do you do mythic keys and raiding?”
There was a pause.
“Yes, we are a very active guild and update our schedule every tuesday.”
“Alright, I’m in.”
They sent the invite and I was a part of this new guild.
For the guild’s sake, I’ll leave their name and their respective character names out of this.
Unlike the first time, I decided I was going to go all in and join the discord. I copy pasted the invite link and wa la~ I was in.
I then get a message from the guild leader, “Anime or Goth?”
At the time I had a really cute picture of goth anime girl as my discord profile pic
As much as I appreciate the goth aesthetic, I’m not goth BUT I am a huge weeb. After I said that I’m really interested in anime I was hit with another question.
“How old are you?”
They did say they were a “mature” guild in their introduction, I shrugged it off and told them my real age, “21.” I told myself they were prob just making sure I wasn’t underaged.
“Male or Female?”
“Huh. Is this how all the guilds do their initiation?” I remembered thinking to myself.
I responded, “I’m a Lady.”
My boyfriend then looked over my shoulder and asked me why some random dude was asking me all these questions. I told him it was the guild leader, even though I was honestly curious why they were asking me so many questions, I didn’t really mind them knowing my age and gender.
I went upstairs to make dinner after letting the Guild leader know, “Hey, I’m not a single pringle, I’m in a relationship,” to having my boyfriend come upstairs saying, “I TOLD YOU!”
“Huh?”
He brings me my phone showing my guild leaders latest message, “Im not single either ;} my girlfriend and I are looking for a 3rd.”
“Oh.” LIKE SHIT MAN, I DIDNT KNOW THAT! I LITERALLY JUST KNEW THEY WERE ASKING ME FOR MY AGE AND GENDER- LIKE, I DIDNT THINK IT WAS ANYTHING MORE THAN THAT!
A couple days later after doing some dungeons and old raids with the guild and getting to meet a couple people in voice chat, the discord leader sends me porn. Complete 180, out of nowhere, BOOM just sends me hentai.
Like, I know I mentioned I like anime and yes, I do like hentai, but it’s not something I like just talking about with anyone. I had a friend, who in her discord server she had a whole chat channel dedicated to hentai BUT IT TOOK ME A LONG ASS TIME GETTING COMFORTABLE TALKING/ SHOWING HER THE STUFF THAT I LIKE AND!!! AND!!! I HAD KNOWN HER FOR LONGER THAN A WEEK!
And what did I do? In all my glorious and infinite wisdom? Did I tell him that him sharing those things with me make me uncomfortable?
Nope, I said, “huh, I recognize those artists. Nanoless and tofuubear are great.” Im a fucking idiot.
I don't like making other people feel unfordable or awkward or telling people no, so I get into a lot more trouble than if I just would’ve flat out told them no.
The next day we were doing some visions to level up my cloak, one on one, and he kept telling me how cute my voice was and that he liked my laugh, which, ya, I know I have a cute laugh and I'm extremely adorable BUT it made me extremely uncomfortable knowing that he knew I was in a relationship and that he also had a girlfriend. Like I don't need you to be telling me how cute I am, I KNOW how cute I am.
It also made my boyfriend uncomfortable seeing us two alone in a discord chat and knowing that he had been flirting with me and that I wasn’t shutting him down.
I dont remember if this happened later that night or the day after but he sent me another hentai pic.
It was of a girl, topless, only in panties, with an egg vibrator up her cooch, “I’d love to do this to a sub.” (I was trying to find the pic but the twitter user’s account that he sent me the pic from is suspended. Dangit waifukittyy! Anway,)
What did I do? If you guessed “played stupid” then you guessed correct.
“A sub? We talkin’ subway sandwich?” Dont ask me, I dont even know.
“You don’t know what bsdm is?”
“OOOOOOH, THAT KIND OF SUB. OOOH.”
I don't really remember the rest of that conversation either, I think after my “oohs” I just left him on read.
A couple nights after, my boyfriend pulled me aside and told me how uncomfortable my relationship with my new guild master was making him.
I told him I just wanted to be in a guild to help me get the Uncorrupted Voidwing mount and I promised to put my foot down and shut down the Guild master. I did and expressed how he was making me uncomfortable and his flirting was affecting not only me but hurting my relationship.
The guild master responded with, “I’m sorry, I’m just naturally flirty, it’s how I always am. You’re really cute and I don’t want you to leave the guild or hurt your relationship.”
Just brushing everything off with, “im just flirty, it’s just how I am.” which trust me, I’ve heard that bullshit before, Swordpath, but I made sure to not respond to their messages and they didn't send me any hentai after that.
So all is good and everything worked out right? WRONG. This was just the beginning.
As I started doing more activities with the guild, there was someone in the guild who, it’s an understatement to say, they weren’t my biggest fan. I’ll call them Guild Master #2, because were there actually two guild masters? No, but they were a treasurer, who was buddy-buddy with the guild master (which I’ll get into more detail later), and basically considered themselves to be the 2nd Guild Master.
Like the GM, GM#2, and GM#1′s girlfriend, had a BUNCH of alts and they gave them all Officer positions and shit- so like that meme, they were literally the senate.
(I think there were maybe 1 or 2 other people with higher roles that weren’t the GM(s)/GM#1′s girlfriend’s alts)
Going back to the lovely GM#2,
They were the type to always post in the discord, “Good Morning Guildies!~” and when someone new joined the guild “greetings and salutations” (they thought this was super quirky and cool) and “don’t talk to me until I’ve had my coffee haHA,” (This is just me being petty about how cringey they are but, oh wait, there’s more.) they’d unironically always say “giggity.” at any chance they could.
Yes, I could feel bits of my soul leave my body every time she’d say it.
For example, the GM’s girlfriend would say, “I’m gonna take a shower” and GM #2 would say, “GIGGITY???” “Oooo, pics???” “Pics or it didn’t happen!” (Like, ugh- just gross. THIS WOMAN HAD NO SHAME and apparently was also married and had children... both parties had children and were in relationships. It was just really, really uncomfortable and gross.)
Oh, let me include another fun detail about this individual, they were a 50 year old woman with children AS OLD AS ME.
A 30 YEAR FUCKING AGE GAP and they acted like a child* (I’ll get into it below). I know I'm an immature shit at times, but holy shit, this boomer was something else.
Going back to GM#1. He told me while we were doing a dungeon, that he and his girlfriend, that he lived with, along with her children, were both 40 years old. (I learned later majority of the people in this guild were in their late 30s to early 50s. I was probably the youngest.)
So some 40 year old dude was sending me hentai and flirting with me, while living with his 40 year old girlfriend and her children (which yes, were also closer to my age) and he had considered me to be a 3rd in their relationship.
The more I think about it, the more I feel like he never told her that he was considering me being a 3rd, but I don't fucking know.
To be honest, I think they eventually made GM#2 their 3rd, it would explain how super fucking horny and flirty she was towards GM#1 and sometimes his girlfriends, but I have no evidence, other that was I saw/heard from GM#2, confirming if she was or was not.
Moving on,
We’d go into “raids” and GM#2 would interrupt the raid leader, always trying to call shots, and when things wouldn’t go her way, she’d loudly sigh and complain.
*I say “raids” because they’d raid for about an hour, once a week, on Saturdays would usually wipe about 2 or 3 times, and then say, “alright everyone, good try- lets wrap it up and try again next week.”
They had NO problem taking time to do old raid content for transmog, since it’s super easy to run through, you dont have to know boss mechanics and literally everything in there is one-shotable, but they didn't put anytime into the new content raid that I specifically joined the guild for.
We’d do the Call to Arms (PVP) and GM#2 would sit and complain about how people were flying all over and getting kills and going different ways and how much she hated it- like why come if you don’t enjoy pvp?
She was just a huge vibe killer. You dont know how hard I’d have to bite my tongue and not say, “Okay, Boomer” every time she complained.
I’d join the voice chat and GM#2 would pull their buddy down into a private voice chat to talk. The, “OH, I have to talk to you about something-” pulls them down right after I joined. It was just weird petty shit that you wouldn’t expect from a 50 year old.
When we’d do Mythic Keys, GM #1 would ALWAYS invite GM #2 (which sparked problems later with the guild when I was about to leave*), and when GM #2 would notice I was there, she’d get upset, quiet, snappy at me, but would flirt and throw herself on Guild Master #1. She’d get jealous and mad if GM#1 spoke to me at all, and then if he made a sound or a joke, even when most times it wasn’t funny, she’d start scream laughing- it was just really fucking weird. She didn’t give a fuck if his girlfriend was listening or if anyone, for that matter, was listening. It just made me feel bad for GM#1′s gf.
Maybe GM#1′s gf didn't care. GM#2 would say stuff to her like, “we’re the awesomest club,” “twinsies!~” “send me pics of you naked” like- flirting with her a bit, and trying to make her feel included, but would just make it extremely awkward for everyone else in the voice chat.
It also sucked because GM#1′s girlfriend was really sweet and funny. I really enjoyed her company, but she was always with GM#1 and #2, so I never really got to talk to her or know her without GM#2 interrupting me and talking over me to shut me up.
Another fun memory from keys, you only get loot from the last boss of the dungeon and the key we used was my key, I got no loot but the healer got a belt. It was an upgrade for me and I expressed that I’d like the belt.
GM#1: Are you SURE it’s an upgrade for you? Just because it has a higher item level doesn’t mean it’s an upgrade.
Me: The intellect and haste are big upgrades for me-
GM#1: Well I think the healer needs it to, sorry.
The healer was playing on an alt that they rarely used, while I was playing on my main. Was just kinda a slap in the face.
As time went on, my uncomfortable interactions with GM#2 would just prevent me from doing any activities with the guild BECAUSE SHE WAS ALWAYS THERE. There was already a dampener from my earlier interactions with GM#1, but that on top of GM#2 constantly nagging, complaining, and being rude whenever I was there, was too much.
*Someone else in the guild promptly said, “Hey, I notice you guys try to be inclusive and included everyone, but it’s literally always the same people doing dungeons and stuff together. You never really include anyone else except your tight knit little group.”
Gm#1 said something like, “well, certain people I know do big damage or heal really well, so I know they can handle the keys blah, blah, blah” basically saying, “fuck you, they’re my friends. I’m going to do shit with them instead. How dare you tell me how to run my guild??!!”
I don’t know if that person is still in that guild or not, but if they are- I wish you the best of luck, my dude.
I had been thinking about leaving the guild for awhile now, but I decided to join one last raid, to give the guild a shot and see if everything was in my head or if this guild really wasn’t worth my time. The GM was asking who wanted to go and that they needed one more person, so I said I’d go.
It was the first half of the Eternal Palace raid, a raid I had done ALMOST A YEAR AGO. Completed it, but didn’t remember all the mechanics.
Did they go over the mechanics? Nope, just started hitting the boss and GM#2 would start whining if someone didn't know where to go or where to stand or that you have to stand in the green pufferfish goop so the healers could heal you, etc.
I’m also so thankful to this person, I don’t even remember who it was, but while GM#2 was throwing a temper tantrum they just said, “It’s only game, why do you have to be mad? Chill.”
Like fuck, someone finally saying what I had been thinking the whole time.
Did GM#1 tell her to chill out? No, it was just some other member of the guild.
She loudly sighed and GM#1 sat their silently before the other tank said we should try again.
Did we finish the fight? Nope, got super close- boss literally had 10k health but we had all wiped and after that GM#2 left in a huff and GM#1′s girlfriend had to work early in the morning so both of them got off. I left the raid and just thought to myself, “nope... this isn’t worth it and there’s NO FUCKING WAY I’m getting that mount with people quitting this fast.”
It came the day when I finally decided I was going to leave. I first had my alts leave the guild and then after I removed my main from the guild I sent a message to GM#1 on discord, “Thank you for inviting me. I enjoyed being a part of a group however I don’t think this guild is for me. Wish you and the rest of the guild the best in Shadowlands.”
Like I couldn’t have said ANYTHING and just left, but I wanted to thank him for their initial kindness and all the activities we did together as a guild.
I then left the discord.
I get a message in-game from GM#1, “I’m really sad to see you go, I really enjoyed having you in my guild. GM#2 and I are very upset that you left and wish to know why. If you ever want to come back, there will always be a home for you in our guild. Best of luck in Shadowlands.”
The “GM#2 and I are upset that you left” really sat with me. GM#2 was the main reason why I left, but I was gonna let bygones be bygones and not return a spiteful message that would just cause more drama.
Am I going to return to this guild? Probably not. While I had some nice adventures and got to experience some of the companionship of being in a guild, the interactions I had with the guild’s leaders really ruined it for me.
I’d love to join another guild that’s ACTUALLY active, has a focus on raiding/keys, and are closer to my age, also less horny pls, but for now I’m okay with just running around Ardenweald with my boyfriend and collecting hidden mounts.
OH, how did I get the mount you might ask? As this guild was an alliance guild and we were making NO progress on the raid, I switched over to my horde toon, since she had a higher ilvl after doing all those mythic keys with my friends, and just started scrolling through twitch looking for heroic AOTC giveaways. I joined one guys stream and won his giveaway. BIG SHOUT OUT TO SAXAMON ON TWITCH! THANK YOU FOR THE GIVEAWAY AND FOR THE MOUNT!
(The guild I left never completed the raid and thus never got the mount).
Thank you for listening to my rant. ♥
