t a i b u

I want to kiss the green alien slug man.

[taibu]

💫I’ll take you to the Stars✨

A fanfic in which Piccolo has a son, Tora, and does his best to raise him. Lost of fluff. And crying. And cute father-son-moments.

Will update every other week, unless told otherwise.

The fanfic will be visible only for registered users on AO3 in order to keep the comments moderated. Hope you understand.

Enjoy!

https://archiveofourown.org/works/79013301/chapters/207263776

[reronn]

Day 7 - Purple 🌌

[cilantrhoes]

[itsbeeugaymers]

can I reblog for both?

[six-sox]

I’m reblogging for both

[member8342]

so the @artfight discord had an announcement that the official website came out with an "update" regarding the rules, will they finally listen to the artist's who have been supporting and keeping the website running for years?

nope! the update is:

1. "the rules aren't new" (if "not new" means that the 3D model rule dates back to just 2025 when artfight has been around since the early 2010s, then sure, i guess). @artfight is not even going to address the fact that their wording and the way the rule is now implemented is completely new...thus making it a new rule semantically. even if it isn't new, you guys are enforcing it in a new way. your wording has fundamentally changed the meaning of the rule and how it is enforced.

that's like if i made a rule that said "no oranges," then later i updated it to say "no oranges (the color)," and when people got upset because they thought i meant the fruit, i just said that the rule was always there and it wasn't new. maybe it wasn't, maybe i always intended to have a rule where the color orange wasn't allowed, but my wording changed how my rule was being enforced.

2. no adjustments regarding DNIs and just saying that you can't say DNI beginners, can't ask artists who work with certain mediums not to interact, can't have hateful DNIs, and can't be disrespectful or aggressive.

i truly have to ask why DNIs are a thing on artfight. who are they for? let's think about this. the website as a whole has blatantly stated for years that discrimination is not allowed on artfight. we don't need "DNI transphobes" to know that transphobes aren't welcome in artfight. we don't need "DNI racists" to know that racists aren't welcome in artfight. artfight also states that the DNIs cannot be disrespectful or targeted against specific users.

so then, what are the DNIs for? for internet discourse? genuinely, what is someone going to put for a DNI? what could they possibly put that isn't already a stated/unstated rule in artfight, that isn't disrespectful, that isn't targeted against specific users? if anyone can give any example of a DNI that would fit these parameters, please do so!

3. instead of revising the rule about tracing one's own materials, including self made bases, photographs, body parts, etc, they are proposing changing the definition of tracing. no, i am not kidding. do they not understand that our feedback is about not being allowed to use our own resources, not that they called it tracing?

@artfight, the issue is not that it's called tracing. we don't need a new definition of what tracing is. nobody ever denied that it is tracing. we are saying that not being allowed to trace our own self made materials, such as 3D models that come with the programs we use, 3D models that we create, bases that we create, photographs that we take, and tracing over some of our own body parts for anatomy purposes, is wrong and is not in accordance with the industry standard.

i'm not even going to mention @artfight's extensive delays in getting a feedback form out. it still is not out. i do statistical analysis as part of my degree requirements, and one part of that is creating a survey using minimal materials (such as google sites) that can be spread to many participants. it is not that hard to create a feedback form. artfight has more resources than your average broke university student. google sites exists, the discord exists, we could run polls, we could have a discussion channel - literally anything. you guys haven't even responded to any reblogs or comments on your posts. how are you getting any feedback at all? how are you guys gauging the responses of anybody in a meaningful way?

their tidbit on misinformation is also infuriating. yes, the mods in the discord haven't made those messages that are circulating around. i've barely seen anyone claim those people are moderators. but the fact that they even exist to be circulated at all says there is something seriously wrong with your discord moderation, which i have pointed out numerous times - both in the discord itself and in the reblogs. nobody should be talking to anybody like that. but instead of training your mods and enforcing your moderation, you choose to pass off the blame by just stating that those people aren't moderators. so what? it doesn't matter because they aren't mods?

@artfight, you've officially lost it. i've been around since 2021. i've played this game all throughout high school. when university got busy, i joined the discord and did the mini games so i could keep sharing the joy of creating art with artists online. i'm not playing until these concerns are actually addressed. this update did not do anything to dispel my worries about where this game is heading.

[drsunshine-nophd]

thanks to artfights rules, attacks like this would probably be disallowed.

To be clear, I don't care about most of the rules. But this is so vague that an attack like this wouldn't be allowed?? Mind you I'll also often put a random animal or human model in to layout where characters would be.

Along w that many beginner artists use 3d models and references and trace over them to learn posing. You're still putting in the effort to create something, you just need some guidance.

Along with all of that, photobashing shouldn't be banned. That is something that requires a lot of effort to do, often needing to redo colors and shading to make the image look correct while picking and choosing what to use and where to put it. It feels wrong to ban what is essentially an art style.

[tea-leo]

In a personal response to Art Fight's clarification on tracing/guiding, I'd like to share the progress of my recent work...

I strongly believe if AF starts "cracking down" on "tracing/guiding," they're only going to punish beginner artists and/or folks who are experimenting. If used as a tool, as it should be, you won't notice it in the end result.

IMO, tracing/guiding reference images and 3d models is just like opting to use the paint bucket in your digital program rather than filling in a shape by hand.

I use guiding in my work all the time. It speeds up the process for me, and as you can see, it's not 1:1. Not everyone will be good at this; it's a tool to learn from, which is why I think it's silly to punish those who use this method in a yearly game where everyone experiments.

Here's one in my scraps that really shows this. It helps a ton with planning. Also, studios use this technique all the time. Check out Disney rotoscoping.

Am I going to be upset if someone *does* trace 1:1 for an attack? No. I'm going to be over the moon that they even took the time to draw my crummy OCs. All I care about is if the person had fun and learned something, as AF should be a space for experimenting and growing; how we get there shouldn't be part of the argument. Anywho, thanks for coming to my ted talk. My Artfight is TeaLeo btw, I'll be there this year ✨

[tepkunset]

Submitted my feedback for the Art Fight form that was basically me just saying as politely and explanatory as possible that I don't believe in policing art lol - as long as someone is not a thief who gives a shit what their process is. I think it's just silly for Art Fight to say that something isn't allowed because it's not transformative enough for their tastes.

[coggsofmerryweather]

Hoo Boy... ArtFight Rule Changes

I have got a LOT to say about ArtFight's considerations to the new rules now that their feedback form is open.

First off, I'm glad they're actually asking what makes our work transformative, because it's a lot of things, actually! Basically everything you draw on that skeleton or traced 3D model counts as transformative. It's not that hard to explain. You are taking that 3D model and adding a unique face to it, unique hair, clothes, features that literally make it into an entirely different character. On top of that, you're putting it into a scene with its own scenery with its own context and artistic expression. Two people can use the same exact 3D model with the same exact pose and the resulting artworks will look completely different. You know why? ART STYLES EXIST, ARTFIGHT.

YES, I think guidelining and tracing 3D models and self-taken/free-to-use photos SHOULD be allowed, because I'm a slow artist who takes her quality very seriously, even if it's gift art! With the amount of attacks I've seen people churn out every year, it's so damn hard to keep up with the flow of traffic. I've seen some people put up 100+ attacks every single year and there's no way they aren't using models or bases in some way. Be realistic here. Either that, or they actually are that fast and/or spend every minute of their day drawing, which is time that a majority of people don't have.

No, you shouldn't deduct points off of people who trace/guideline models and photos! Same reason as to why tracing/guidelining should be allowed in the first place!

Second, their rules about DNIs leave me mostly indifferent. Hot take here, but I genuinely believe DNIs are redundant. Most DNIs have basic lists like, "DNI racists, transphobes, sexists, (etc.)" which, OBVIOUSLY YOU DON'T WANT PEOPLE LIKE THAT INTERACTING WITH YOU AND THOSE PEOPLE BEING HATEFUL TOWARDS OTHER GROUPS GOES AGAINST ARTFIGHT'S RULES, and do you really think those people who are morally corrupt and inconsiderate will listen to a list? No! They're going to ignore it and they're going to interact with you anyway! Those kinds of people don't respect boundaries. They never have and they never will.

DNIs are mostly childish and I've seen DNIs that specifically do not want people who have played a certain game or watched a certain show to interact. I'm sorry, but people are allowed to like things that aren't bad. If you don't like someone for liking a certain media (that isn't problematic) THAT bad to the point you don't want any contact with them, then you genuinely have a problem and need help. You are practically spreading hate to a specific group. There are bigger fish to fry right now! Life is hard enough already with bigger problems in it. This is childish behavior and frankly I don't see the logic behind it. People are entitled to have preferences and *gasp* opinions! That's right! The things that make human beings unique are allowed to exist! Shocker! We shouldn't hate or ostracize people for liking a movie, show, videogame, or fandom.

I know I got carried away in the last paragraph and I do not mean to come off as mean-spirited. I'm just tired of people being so petty with the silliest of things while there's bills to be paid, a job to be done, and food to be bought all so you can keep yourself alive. I don't care if you use a DNI. I'll try my best to respect it, but just know that I myself will not be using one (basic criteria still apply, though).

Those are my thoughts on why certain rules should not be allowed or should be allowed. Of course, everyone has different opinions and have the right to express that! I ask that you guys keep the comments civil. I know there's a lot of controversy around this and a lot of people (including me) are fired up. With that in mind, I will try my best to be respectful to you if you want to share your opinions on their rules.

[boopshoops]

artfight is doubling down on the 3d model bullshit and i think its dumb because:

we are losing the plot fellas

i've heard the feedback form is shit but there are plenty of pretyped versions being made rn that u can copy paste, soldiers o7

[wielderofthegoldensword]

I feel like unfortunately artfight is falling to the elitism the art community has been plagued by recently (from what I've seen , its more than likely its been longer) and chose to cave in for the people who hate fun and beginners , wich is unfortunate but also such vocal hate is scary

[kavalyera]

i think what gets me so genuinely annoyed by this whole artfight fiasco is the fact the event is an art trading event. yes there’s points and some people are competitive but at its core it is literally a month long event where you get to draw others’ ocs and they get to draw yours back.

strict fucking rules and for what? to push away new participants? the event is ALREADY intimidating to new artists or genuinely any artist that hasn’t been on it yet.

i’ve only participated for two years at this point and this year is my third and let me TELL YOU there have been beginner artists every year. beginner artists that may or may not rely on stuff that more advanced artists don’t need so fix those damn rules are we supposed to conjure shit out of nowhere?

[sipofpeach]

*cough*

[sproutlett]

if you’re not paying attention to trees and how they sway in the wind then what are you even doing

[saxifraga-x-urbium]

my toxic xennial trait is that i believe something should either be software (in which case after i download it i shouldn't need to be connected to use it) or a web page (which shouldn't require me to download anything to use it, however badly, in a browser). fuck your mandatory single function constant connection apps

[elodieunderglass]

You’re so right. Say more

[msmoondust]

Just when I was debating if I should participate in Art Fight this year, I'm met with irritation and disappointment,,,

Listen, as someone who does art and has been to various art classes (since middle school), references are your friend! Use them! Utilize them when you're trying to get a specific pose! Not everything can be off the dome! Whether it is from a 3D model, stock picture, screenshot, or even a photo of yourself, references help a lot when you're struggling with poses!

I've always been in art classes where we use real life as influences and inspirations for our works. And there's times where we do still life and look at actual people to practice with how lighting, color, and structure work. Hell, all my professors and teachers have told me that using references is good! Not everyone is going to memorize every little detail of the body or objects and it's good to look at references to remind ourselves that.

Also, it's just ignorant to dismiss people who really need references for their art, because you don't know exactly why they need it. It's also ignorant and wrong to refer it as 'tracing' because those are two different things!

Anyways, sorry for the ramble, just... whoever tells you that references are wrong to use, they are setting you up for failure.

[hurdying-gurdily]

adorkastock has been my savior for years as a disabled artist with aphantasia you can pry my references from my cold dead fingers

[hurdying-gurdily]

ableist language aside (and IT'S A VERY LARGE ELEPHANT TO NOT BE ADDRESSING) this ratio is fucking killing meeee