Teleoburbs

Twenty year old or so, living in Albuquerque, New Mexico. Attending UNM, Psychology major. P-chum: tutelaryArtisan. Feel free to contact me if you would like to discuss classpects.

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Thank you to everyone who had to put up with me and my endless questioning and doubts to get here. I really appreciate it.

Shout out to harryzapping, my dear friend who helped me make this decision. I wouldnt be here if it wasnt for you.

There are also endless others to thank amongst my friends, such as the smellofblue. Thank you Stone. You are my rock.

I'd also like to thank my parents and family for undying support helping me with my struggle and providing catering and room and board.

And i'd also like to give a big thanks to the academy.

Thank you so much, and have a good night.

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I'm the Rogue of Mind.

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I picked a Homestuck title

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Ive finally done it

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Skype Discussion on the Heir

  Teleoburbs: ok

  Teleoburbs: so the heir

  Teleoburbs: mythologically, heirs are well the heir to the throne. the chosen one.

  Teleoburbs: they are not kings

  Teleoburbs: but they will be

  Teleoburbs: so the kingdom expects much from them, they turn to the promises of what the chosen one entials

  Teleoburbs: the world is looking to him to lead and defeat the fire-lord and save the world

  Teleoburbs: there's a pressure on him

  Teleoburbs: his actions and behavior poitn towards the aspect of breath in addition to being the last airbender

  Teleoburbs: he must sorta make up for the lack of breath in the world

  | Edited   Teleoburbs: other heirs such as Luke Skywalker

  Teleoburbs: are destined to bring about the fall of the sith

  Teleoburbs: again the chosen one

  Teleoburbs: even maybe Emmit from Lego movie makes that point

  Teleoburbs: all in all the heir is the chosen one

  Teleoburbs: destined to bring great things

  Teleoburbs: also Po from Kung fu panda

  Teleoburbs: they are all legendary warriors

  Teleoburbs: spoken of by prophets

  Teleoburbs: In addition

  Teleoburbs: These characters all had expectations

  | Edited   Teleoburbs: at first they were small expectations

  Teleoburbs: Po's father expected him to inherit the noodle shop

  Teleoburbs: Emmit had the expectation of being the master builder

  | Edited   Teleoburbs: Luke had the responsibilities and expectations of his aunt and uncle on him

  Teleoburbs: to work on the farm

  Teleoburbs: Aang

  Teleoburbs: He had the world looking to him

  Teleoburbs: where he was in his story he had passed those expectations and was now fleeing his fate

  Teleoburbs: Now applied to homestuck

  Teleoburbs: Equius has expectations of the caste system to follow

  Teleoburbs: he adhered strictly to this system

  Teleoburbs: unfortunately instead of letting go he held on even after they weren't important

  Teleoburbs: perhaps fitting his void role

  Teleoburbs: but this lead to his inability to face the truth and fight gamzee

  Teleoburbs: and he died

  Teleoburbs: And although not much information is provided, mituna's backstory does shed some light on this class

  I can agree with what you've said so far but I might not agree with the bottom line conclusion

  Teleoburbs: (areana you bitch)

  Teleoburbs: well he died

  Skype Guy: I'm not disagreeing with that

  Skype Guy: Sorry for being unclear

  Teleoburbs: i would think not

  Skype Guy: I might disagreeing with the conclusions I think you'll draw from the whole thing.

  Skype Guy: But well, you haven't said them yet P

  Teleoburbs: yeah

  Teleoburbs: so

  Teleoburbs: mituna

  Teleoburbs: hussie explictly gave us info

  Teleoburbs: although there isn't much to it. he gave us a puzzle piece

  Teleoburbs: mituna being the heir of doom

  Teleoburbs: has the role of being the chosen one

  Teleoburbs: he had the visions and voices telling him the imminent deaths of his teammates

  Teleoburbs: and like many heirs mentioned

  Skype Guy: He too?

  Skype Guy: Wasn't that Sollux?

  Teleoburbs: I heard that he had visions

  Skype Guy: Can you check that info?

  Teleoburbs: sure

  Teleoburbs: this is what areana said

  Teleoburbs: The Heir of Doom was once a powerful psionic. He was gifted with vision twofold, and had strong prophetic insights wherever a leak future was concerned. He had much to say when it came to warning us aout the path of doom and destruction we were all headed for, ut no one took him very seriously. ut one day he lost all those abilities when he adly overexerted himself. It's hard to get any specifics from him, ut indications are that he applied every last it of energy he had toward some great act of heroism, saving us all from some looming threat. Not only did his exertion permanently urn out his psychic ailities, ut it left him somewhat... er. Incoherent. ... The entire incident is shrouded in mystery. From his limited and scattered accounts of what happened, it seems very likely that Kurloz was with him at the time, as the only eye witness. And of course it's impossile to get any reliale information out of him. I guess we may never know, sadly.

  Skype Guy: Alright.

  Teleoburbs: anyways

  Teleoburbs: heirs

  Teleoburbs: those that i mentioned and others seem to have visions

  Teleoburbs: for some reason that i don't quite

  Teleoburbs: understand

  Skype Guy: Agreed. Actually, the fact that Mituna has visions is.. I mean, why

  Skype Guy: Sollux is a Mage, but he's the opposite of a Mage

  Teleoburbs: sure.

  Teleoburbs: could be

  Teleoburbs: but just looking at heirs and not their inversion

  Teleoburbs: they have visions for some reason

  Teleoburbs: and it seems normal

  Teleoburbs: but funny that you bring that up

  Teleoburbs: cuz of this passage

  Skype Guy: John has no visions, nor Equius.

  Teleoburbs:   Teleoburbs:

  <<< He was gifted with vision twofold, and had strong prophetic insights wherever a leak future was concerned. He had much to say when it came to warning us aout the path of doom and destruction we were all headed for, ut no one took him very seriously.

  Teleoburbs: john did

  Skype Guy: SIGH. Since when do Skaia's clouds count as visions?

  Skype Guy: Plenty players have looked into them. Kanaya too was awake for a long time, like Jade.

  Teleoburbs: well jade certainly had tales about the future

  Skype Guy: Her inversion was Seer of Time

  Teleoburbs: but not all players read the clouds

  Skype Guy: And she sure acted like one

  Teleoburbs: right

  Skype Guy: Unlike John, who did not understand batshit, she had an actual understandment

  Teleoburbs: right

  Teleoburbs: its just a pattern

  Teleoburbs: though

  Teleoburbs: like i dont think dave or karkat had visions

  Teleoburbs: nor nepeta or tavros or vriska

  Teleoburbs: most trolls never mention visions

  Skype Guy: Dude we saw much less of their session

  Skype Guy: If we saw John watch into Skaia's clouds it's because a lot more focus was put on the kids

  Teleoburbs: sure but why did hussie leave it out?

  Skype Guy: Because he didn't have time for that degree of focus on twelve trolls. Shut up

  Teleoburbs: dude dont say shut up

  Teleoburbs: its not cool

  Teleoburbs: im only saying that heirs not only in homestuck were also given visions

  Skype Guy: And I'm saying that we weren't shown enough to confirm this theory

  Teleoburbs: alright

  Teleoburbs: well its not a theory

  Teleoburbs: its observations

  Skype Guy: It's a postulation

  Skype Guy: Because no, you can't call it an observation when you have partially missing data

  Teleoburbs:   Teleoburbs:

  <<< heirs

those that i mentioned and others seem to have visions

for some reason that i don't quite

understand

  Teleoburbs: i never said that this is a thing

  Teleoburbs: i simply was saying it is a pattern

  Teleoburbs: im not postulating

  Teleoburbs: if i was

  Teleoburbs: it would be like i think maybe all heirs have visions because all these examples

  Teleoburbs: thats postulating

  Teleoburbs: i'm not

  Teleoburbs: so dont twist it

  Teleoburbs: anyways

  Teleoburbs: in way

  Teleoburbs: heirs inact a prophesy or live up to an expectation or something along those lines

  Teleoburbs: let me find a word that may fit

  Skype Guy: It's clair enough, I think. Still, we're getting closer to the possibly disagreeable conclusion.

  Teleoburbs: and what is that?

  Teleoburbs: wait!

  Skype Guy: I would have to be stupid to tell you in advance.

  Teleoburbs: i think maybe i may have found it

  Teleoburbs: what about one who owns

  Skype Guy: Hell no.

  Teleoburbs: i mean thats what comes up in the dictionary

  Teleoburbs: http//www.thesaurus.com/browse/heir%apparent

  Skype Guy: Yeah no thanks

  Teleoburbs: why are you being so angsty

  Teleoburbs: this is a discussion

  Skype Guy: Calling a Heir "one who owns" is not acceptable in a system where Heir has to be Mage's shadow and Witch's passive

  Teleoburbs: well its not set in stone to call it that

  Teleoburbs: its just an idea

  Teleoburbs: its just that that's what comes up in the dictionary

  Skype Guy: Don't call it that.

  Teleoburbs: whatever man

  Teleoburbs: this is a brainstorm

  Teleoburbs: i'm thinking of ideas where it makes sense

  Teleoburbs: im not claiming anything

  Teleoburbs: maybe gains?

  Teleoburbs: like the one who gains such and such?

  Teleoburbs: every definition says gains, recieves, or owns

  Teleoburbs: maybe its accepts?

  Teleoburbs: idk

  Skype Guy: Then tell me, what dictionary will tell you than a Knight exploits?

  Teleoburbs: lemme see

  Teleoburbs: well there isnt

  Teleoburbs: from what i see

  Teleoburbs: as far as things a knight does as in its definition

  Teleoburbs: it reads that it supports or fights for a cause

  Teleoburbs: which goes along with my theory

  Skype Guy: What does your theory say?

  Teleoburbs: just that

  Teleoburbs: one who supports or fights

  Teleoburbs: like a defender

  Teleoburbs: a sheild in a way

  Teleoburbs: i think of it as one who keeps

  Skype Guy: Go the hell away.

  Teleoburbs: ?

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I should be getting back into this. I've continued to analyze the classpects even without posting any of my theories. But at this point I should be sharing it.

The Classpects make sense to me now, all of them.

Now to put TEXT on SCREENs....

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Sorry, been super busy over the last few weeks. Do you want to chat over Pesterchum this weekend?

sure. i'm free on sunday. when is good for you?

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Sweet, thanks! Good answers. It's really fun to think about how someone of a certain classpect could utilize their inversion to supplement their main one.

thats what its all about. The white yin has its black and the black yang has its white. they are not simply black and white but a bit of both. Balance is key to any classpect.

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*raises hand* I’m p sure yin-yang isn’t about finding the balance between two diametrically opposed forces.  That’s more of a sliding scale.  It’s about recognizing that “dual” forces complement and support each other to form a whole (hence the circle), and that it’s extremely unhealthy to have one without the other.  In fact it’s often impossible to have one without the other; you can’t have shadows without light, the top of an object without its bottom, the crests of a sinusoidal wave without the troughs, etc.

There’s even a bit in the Wiki page about the yin-yang symbol being a mountain and a valley while light/shadows move across their surface, so that the dark area eventually becomes revealed and the lit area becomes obscured, and vice versa.  But I’m not even gonna touch that one in regards to classpect without at least a few hours of thought and a lot of comparisons to Light/Void.

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It sounds like we're saying the same thing. On one hand i'm saying balance, and on the other you're saying complement. I get that and i appreciate you clarifying the claim.

I simply meant in saying balance we have to balance one half with the other, in other words complementing. you can't have one half with out the other.

but something else to bring up in my cherub method. essentially it means that we have both halves in us like caliborn and calliope. but over time one becomes the primary side that takes over. but of course If we ignore the opposite side we'll become flawed and eventually fail.

so i agree with you. complementing is a better word to describe the healthiest form of embracing a title.

It's good to hear from you Catchaloststar. thanks for offering input :D

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Sweet, thanks! Good answers. It's really fun to think about how someone of a certain classpect could utilize their inversion to supplement their main one.

thats what its all about. The white yin has its black and the black yang has its white. they are not simply black and white but a bit of both. Balance is key to any classpect.

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Hello hello, i find your classpect posts interesting.. So what do you possibly have to say on the Mage of Hope? And perhaps also the Heir of Rage? The synonymity betwen those two inversions? (If you get what mean by that.. Being inversions; the role and sub-role operate synonymously. Unless of course you have other interpretations of such.) So yeah, thank you anyways.

I'm sorry this took so long, I lucidly procrastinated every time i saw this question because of how complicated the answer would be, but now I can't wait any longer on this, it's driving me crazy. So without further ado, my explanation.

So on the Mage of Hope and Heir of Rage the two have similar characteristics to that of yin and yang (like you mentioned with inversions). The character of the person holding this title simply lies on one of these two halves. For the purpose of this example, the Mage of Hope will be yin and the Heir of Rage will be yang.

So say that you are the Mage of Hope.

In an example of a computer while most classes act like users the mage class acts like a creator or maker, whether it be a programmer or inventor or match-maker. Like a Magician conjuring a spell. The reason Sollux understands the framework, rules and system of a computer is simply a by-product of his classes' role, he needs to understand how to use the system before he can infiltrate and hack them. Like a Wizard learning spells before being able to preform the magic. Using his understanding he can navigate, hack, and create codes and viruses in another system. He is the one responsible for creating Sgurb out of the ruins of a old file, the game that doomed Alternia, Earth and the universe and allowed a way for LE to enter the game. While less information is given to Meulin, the basic concept is still present; understand who works with who and then create pairings respectively.

So using that, the Mage of Hope would be capable of creating or establishing hope in their session through their own means but must understand how faith and hope works before being able to. They would be good at using theories and placebos to achieve their means and would be well versed in fields of philosophy, theology, mythology, and other such fields related to beliefs. They would be more open to alternatives, and be calming to others. However they may also be superstitious, irrational, fickle and absent minded.

Where as the Heir of Rage...

the Heir's definition is one who technically inherits but in the game it's really more of a nexus of change and influence, likened to a young king with the right and privilege to do just that. They are like apprentices, learning and growing to reach their full potential. Unlike a Mage who is much more technically skilled the Heir is simply talented. Their use is to manipulate their aspect within their party members and in the reality of the game. John, a perfect example, is one who helps change the course of the story by being himself. In one instance, he sends b-day gifts to each of his friends, all of which are objects that help make each kid more defined. Dave and his pair of sweet sunglasses to get out of his bro's shadow and being more like himself, Rose and her knitting needles to be more creative and less gothy, and Jade and her blue atom T-shirt to try out a different color besides green. BladeKindEyewear discusses it really well. (http://bladekindeyewear.tumblr.com/post/36797950396/breath-blood-and-the-flow-of-reality). Anyways. And then you have Equius who tries to save Nepeta by advising her to go hide (symbolic of void) and tries to silence Gamzee. He also provided Aradia with a empty body which is actually extremely important in the long run for the trolls with Jack and the green sun. And for Mituna... all thats really given is that he prevented a great disaster by sacrificing himself which fits in with the Heir of Doom.

The Heir of Rage is one who would influence his session through his assertion and fear related tactics by adding rage: anger, strength, animosity, closed-mindedness in the mix which could help people fight back instead of being passive or cause the group to become difficult to work with and hostile. They would be instigators, and be talented at getting others riled up. For the most part it could be a difficult player to deal with but if they could be turned against a foe they would be excellent. I almost think hulk when i hear this classpect.

Now as far as their yin and yang within an individual, if that person is a Mage of Hope then they would have to avoid getting overly frustrated or unhealthy with their role to avoid letting their fears and anger control them. For the most part they're terrible at instigating or being assertive, they don't enjoy it, they prefer to help others by creating something to positively belief in. But if things don't work they could become hulkish, lashing out at everything and going berserk. Like the mild-mannered guy at the cash register who deals with rude customers everyday and is bullied around by his boss and co-workers until one day he snaps just murders them all.

If that person was an Heir of Rage though it would be a bit different. Instead of going crazy they would actually become more laid-back and pleasant then they typically are. It would make others extremely uncomfortable. Like Dictators to Hippies you just don't see it happening. Normally they don't make good philosophers, they have strong beliefs and are not willing to change. they stick to their ways and will become combative if anyone disagrees with them. But once they invert they become polarly opposite not having any foundation, just wishy washy and illogical. They would believe in everything and just wonder about the world, not accomplishing anything. 

At their healthiest, they have a bit of both. A healthy Mage of Hope would be assertive and stick to their guns while creating a force of belief within their session to give their teammates a boost and drive. And a healthy Heir of Rage would be willing to listen and believe in his session mates to best lead them into battle.

Openness/ Closeness

Gentle/Forceful

Things like that. Find a balance.

I hope that helps answer your inquiry. For further question please don't hesitate to ask me. I enjoy this sort of stuff :P

OK19

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Breath, Blood, and the Flow of Reality

Breath is the aspect of freedom, quest, direction, delivery, frivolity and detachment. Blood is the other side of its coin, its complement, governing bonds, promises, responsibility, combined will and worldly ties. Where Breath is flight, Blood is shackles.

As the dichotomy concerning the way paths unite or twist away through reality, both of these aspects are incredibly powerful, and important for ultimate victory over Lord English. Below the cut, we’ll go into the evidence and potential for both aspects, and the actual or theoretical heroes thereof.

Starting with a look at John Egbert, the Heir of Breath… the most effective character so far at leveraging his role over existence, even before he ascended!

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SBURB Development video 01.

Yes, I am creating Sburb! Feel free to send me ideas/comments.

I apologize for the whatsapp/facebook sounds. I’m a dumbass and I forgot to turn these off. Also, my english is quite rusty. Sorry!

And yes. Multiplayer is in.

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TELE-Burbs

I'm starting a channel on YouTube to further my exploits in the realm of Classpecting. I hope to see you there :D

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdzVp91c5_2jF--nfUu0SnA

Still working out the kinks so don't be surprised if they suck at first. Thanks for the understanding.

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Alright, have fun analyzing.

OK19 out!

[catchaloststar]

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I’m calling it SEER OF BREATH.

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Thanks so much! I can see this being my classpect, I definitely do. So as a seer of breath my duties are to redirect things through guidance, right? What do you think that would entail are far as powers go? Just curious.

Again, thank you. :D

[catchaloststar]

The way I interpret the relationship between class and aspect is that class determines a player’s role and what they do, and aspect determines what the player focuses on and/or how they fulfill their role.

As a Seer, your role would be to guide and advise your teammates away from doomed timelines and towards the best outcome.  Rose did so by instinctively knowing the path towards the most fortuitous outcome; I think of her ability like a compass that infallibly shows which direction to go, but not what the path will contain nor where exactly they’re going.  (And unlike Captain Jack Sparrow’s compass, Rose’s compass only points towards their victory and cannot be directed elsewhere).  Terezi knows how her teammates’ minds work, and she is able to understand their logical decisions and know where their thought processes will lead them.  This ability wouldn’t work on a large scale like Rose’s does, but it is practically omnipotent in seeing the decisions of others and their results.

As a Seer of Breath, then, you would guide your teammates by understanding their Breath.  You would know their movements, their motivations, their isolation, and their freedom.  …Okay I don’t know how any of those would work besides motivations, but I’ll give it a shot.

A Seer of Breath would know that Dave is striving to be a hero like his Bro was, and she could try to free him from his Bro’s shadow.  She would feel the change in the Breeze and know that Rose had gone grimdark, intending to attack Jack Noir, and she might have been able to shake Rose from the broodfester tongues before Rose’s death.  She would understand that Jade stayed inactive throughout most of Act 5 because she lacked confidence in herself, and she could advise Jade towards actions to make her more confident and active.  She would realize that John is restless and anxious aboard the ship long before his outburst at Con Air, and she might have been able to redirect John to some side quests on the planets before he blew up on his birthday.

Being a Hero of Breath could vastly emphasize your Seer “redirecting” abilities.  The canonical Heroes of Breath are excellent at changing everything around them, often without conscious thought.  John sent presents to his friends long ago (Dave’s Ben Stiller shades, Rose’s knitting supplies, Jade’s pumpkin seeds) that heavily influenced how they grew up.  Tavros, even before his Page abilities are realized, is a subtle rejection of Alternian culture by choosing a weak FLARP class more focused on roleplay than rollplay, and he befriends his planet’s minions (and likely his denizen) instead of killing them, all to Vriska’s chagrin.  Rufioh’s effect on his Beforan session is less known, but the Summoner led a full-fledged lowblood revolution on Alternia.

That said, Heroes of Breath tend to have trouble communicating.  John goes off on crazy tangents about his favorite movies, which tend to distract his conversation partner from the conversation’s original subject (he also fails to carry no less than 5 computers on him at all times, like a sensible person).  Tavros has a stuttering style of speech with lots of commas in his quirk, and his lack of confidence makes it difficult for him to communicate himself.  Rufioh has a similar quirk, and he can’t bring himself to tell Horuss that he wants to end their relationship.  Communication is obviously important for a Seer and you don’t want your Breath to get in the way of your Seer role.

(That said, Breath also seems to be related to the postal service and LOWAS’s pipe mailing system - not to mention that you need Rufioh to translate Damara’s speech in Openbound - so I guess Breath is related to both communication and lack of?)

Lastly, I’m sort of glad I stalled on this for so long, because zenosanalytic posted a really interesting discussion and observation that Seers seem to not be finders, seekers, and guides like the fandom thinks, but actually in charge of managing all information pertaining to their aspect.

Applying that to the theoretical designation of Seers as a “Knowledge-Class” gives us a radically different view of them. Under the fandom-conventional approach taken by Inversion Theory, Seers exist only to Reveal and Explain their Aspect, to be advisers and guides, and any act beyond this would be counter to their Class and thus “Inversion”. But under this approach, a Seer’s job would be Information Management regarding their Aspect in Total; not just helping others to Act and to decide how to Act through sharing Information, but Influencing Actions and Events through what they choose not to share, and how they choose to share and act upon what they know, as well.

Which means that even if a Seer of Breath knows Rose intends to knock out Dave with the yarn and take the suicide quest to the Green Sun by herself, she might choose to keep it quiet (just as Rose did) if she believed doing so would lead to the best outcome.  Combined with the Breath = Lack of Communication, a Seer of Breath’s methods for hiding her information may include changing the subject of a conversation to redirect a topic, being evasive when answering a teammate’s question, or purposefully leaving her phone off so her teammates can’t contact her.  Also, under this reading, a Seer of Breath could be one of the best teammates to keep secrets.  She would probably figure out the secrets by herself due to her Seer powers, but she would also keep those secrets because she would understand their friends’ motives in wanting to keep the secrets.

Also here are some other people on the Seer of Breath.

[ok19]

Hmm.. Well although this is incredibly interesting and enlightening, I’m not quite sure if it suits me as much anymore. However, this is very helpful information that I can make use of for a later date, so thank you.

I don’t know if this necessarily means that I’m not a seer, but several points don’t match up.

I find that I’m much more of a finder, seeker, and guide than I am an adviser. I do direct people but I think that’s more closely related to the breath traits. I’m actually the one who pulls the strings to harmonize people rather than inform I suppose. And just in general I find that I tend to gravitate towards the ninja/spy and puppeteer than I do a prophet. In-taking information from conversations and then later telling others to act as a buffer to keep the peace.

Hmm..

I need to catch myself before I fall into the spiral of ‘what if” again.

I do have most of the traits listed, but perhaps maybe my methodology could be more in line with different class and just have similar traits. Just a thought.

Or maybe I’m just doing a bad job of being a seer. i don’t know, but in any case I do want to thank you for doing a fantastic job of finding my classpect. It’s incredibly good and you should be proud of yourself. :)

(P.S. Just some food for thought, perhaps there is a connection between what people choose to dress up as (halloween, cosplay, etc.) and who they are and what they want to project to others. Perhaps this could be an indicator? Let me know what you think.)

OK19

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Edit. whoops, wrong profile. But this is me^

[ok19]

-Jaxon Sorby

Strife Specibus: Cricket bat

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Self-portrait I did

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I swear if this is where Hussie got the inspiration I'm going to have a stroke.

I searched neon lighting and this is what I found. Goddammit