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Intro post

What is thunderstarscode?

Thunderstars code is an au where Thunderstar became so paranoid about molly's ruining his clan that he decided to subjugate them.

So basically, its a Thunderclan misogyny au.

At first his code started with one simple rule, "1. No molly shall ever hold a position of power in Thunderclan."

Then more came as the clan grew.

2. All mollys over 6 moons must be assigned to a tom.

3. When a tom reaches 6 moons he is eligible to own a molly

4. All molly's must be assigned their warrior names by their owners.

5. Molly's may be medicine cats. Provided there is at least one tom in the role as well.

6. All molly's under 12 moons must take heat suppressant herbs, unless ordered otherwise by their owner. Toms under 12 moons may not take their mollys off of heat suppressants.

7. Molly's must obey every order made by their toms. No matter what she thinks, her place is to obey.

8. A molly's kits are her owners, unless he relinquishes the claim.

9. No molly may attend the gatherings. They cannot be trusted not to gossip.

10. When a mollys owner dies, she must be given until sunhigh to grieve, before she is assigned a new owner.

I thought including heat cycles would help somewhat with overpopulation. Also Thunderclan always has the largest territory because they fight and make deals for it. Molly's are allowed to be warriors, only if their owners are okay with it. Its seen as a status symbol to have a strong molly for some.

Most female leaders/ Deputies are just gender swapped in history. Unless their gender was important, then they are just replaced. Except for Doestar. I came up with some fun lore for her.

So thats Thunderstars code. Feel free to send asks or chat. I plan to make a clngen off this lol. Will probably post to my ao3 so Tumblr doesn't nuke me.

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SoI was thinking about Millie in this AU and theres no way she would bring Graystripe home if she knew everything.

But if Graystripe never really mentions it, or makes it a point to not talk about it because he knows Thunderclan is uniquely right (their opinion) then I think he'd get her help. The rest is sunk cost fallacy, also Graystripe is nice to her despite tricking her in.

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I think that the clans underutilize their ability to weave. Like not even headcanon, because the clans weave dens. I think they should use it more. Tie ropes, weave bowls. Just be fun.

Back to this blog. Thunderclan uses a lot of weaving too. Because fiber arts are my true passion.

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What's Daisy's place in new ThunderClan? Does she still join them willingly? - OG anon

Daisy still functions as a permaqueen, but under more of a strained role. Daisy fled the barn like in canon, and she is welcomed in. But after the kits are situated and she falls asleep..

She finds herself in her own ownership ceremony. Being passed off to Rainwhisker. She's violated and humiliated.

After that she tries repeatedly to escape with her kits. But her attempts are thwarted and she's treated cruely for them.

She regrets everyday entering Thunderclan but given her fight, she's rarely allowed out without supervision.

She also has an extra litter with Rainwhisker before her and Spiderlegs in canon. Who she is still in love with, just under different circumstances. He's a rare nice tom to her and she hopes he'd free her.

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Since my brains on Firestar.. I believe he definitely has/ had a thing for Graystripe. And him being the perfect Thunderclan tom, he never acted on it. Instead he gave Graystripe one of his daughters and then claimed both of Graystripe and Millie's daughters as his own.

He also definitely heterosexually wishes Graystripe was a molly, or that his daughters looked more like him.

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I need to calculate/ create a list

But so far it seems Firestar has the most molly's of Thunderclan leaders.

But take that with some salt because he, Oakstar, Pinestar, and Thrushstar are the only ones ive bothered with.

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Hes got 9

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I need to calculate/ create a list

But so far it seems Firestar has the most molly's of Thunderclan leaders.

But take that with some salt because he, Oakstar, Pinestar, and Thrushstar are the only ones ive bothered with.

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How the other clans feel

With Thunderclan being the only* clan like this. You might be wondering, how do the other clans react?

Well, its an open secret amongst the clans. New Warriors are let in on it, while Apprentices share kitten friendly stories about Thunderclan eating all she-cat kits so theres none.

Shadowclan sees it as Thunderclans greatest weakness. They have all these warriors they refuse to use. Its ridiculous.

Riverclan frowns upon it and at the old territories they would offer mollys sanctuary.

Windclan is disgusted by it and would help any cat who wanted out. They won't host them in camp but they know how to hide them.

Historical Skyclan was neutral on it. They didn't really care about what Thunderclan did in their own borders. But modern skyclan is where the asterisk comes into play.

*of the clans we know in arc 1

Modern Skyclan was refound by a Thunderclan cat. So, they are positive towards the system and work off their own version of the code.

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The first fic I'm planning for this is a second person request book about the readers life in Thunderclan. So far I have it being the readers being apprenticed and it will be separate chapters for tom v. molly pov

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I have the molly's side plotted out. Second person is pretty fun to work in Also her name is Honeypaw, she won't have an appearance but I refuse to just go with Y/N so the povs have names

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The first fic I'm planning for this is a second person request book about the readers life in Thunderclan. So far I have it being the readers being apprenticed and it will be separate chapters for tom v. molly pov

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Tumblr ate the original post lol... Anyway, here's the fun fact I wanted to share. Kittypets.

Male kittypets are treated much like their canon counterparts. Lazy and useless. But there's also that extra layer of disgust. They're toms who act like mollys and, in some cases, are worse than mollys.

Neutered toms, especially, are treated with vitril. They're extra lazy, over-pampered pets. Not even fit to be called toms. They're mostly avoided, though some toms take them as a challenge. They want to really prove that these "toms" are molly's so they'll abduct and "fix" them. It's very, very rare, and I think only Oakstar kept one of these cats.

Finally, we're onto female kittypets. The clan doesn't blame them, at least not the toms, because serving is just how molly's should be. And in their own sick way, they pity these mollys. Sure, they have an owner, but they aren't really fulfilling their purpose. These toms will often take the mollys in to try and "help" them. That's why mostly only toms live in the houses surrounding the Thunderclan border. The mollys just kept vanishing.

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Some more worldbuilding

Kittypets!

Still reviled like in canon, just differently.

Kittypet toms are seen as lazy, wannabe mollys.

Neutered kittypets are seen as basically just mollys. Down to misgendering and occasional claiming. Its controversial to own one, but a few cats have. (Oakstar is the only one off the top of my head)

Kittypet mollys are just mollys in their element, serving their twolegs since they can't have a real tom. It's a blessing to them to claim them.

As a result, the fences that face Thunderclan territory only have tom cats because the mollys used to always disappear.

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I know in a lot of real societies that treat women as property, the most respected members of the community (usually the oldest) get more women than the less respected members (the youngest), who have to wait their turn. Does ThunderClan work like that in your AU, or is attaining a she-cat at 6 moons considered as a coming-of-age thing?

It varies by leader, since they assign owners. But most favor themselves and their friends, since mollys are a status symbol. Then the senior warriors/ elders and other high ranks. Its rare for a 6 moon old Tom to actually get a molly when they are apprenticed.

When it does happen, the toms are seen as blessed and mature. Surely the leader saw potential to give them a molly so young.

So short answer, yes.

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Doefeather, the only female deputy

Doefeather was the deputy to Beestar (Beetail who gets to survive longer). Her election was a controversial choice, given the code. But with the leader backing her and being her owner, everyone hoped it would be alright.

Then the events of Goosefeather's curse happened. Every cat was sick and starving. Goosefeather was an easy scapegoat, but Doefeather was even easier.

Most of the clan blamed Doefeather, insisting that her position broke the code and caused Thunderstar to punish them.

When Beestar refused, the clan rallied against Doefeather. They tied her up at Owl tree and reminded her of her place. They eventually took her back to camp but by then she was sick and passed shortly after.

It's unknown if she made it to Starclan.

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OMG HAIII (It's me. OG anon. I am stoked you will be doing more with this.)

Helloooo! Nice to see you again. I worked on some lore based off your asks and am definitely having fun with this

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In the Thunderclan misogynistic au. I imagine that Starclan is kind of divided for Thunderclan. Because most of the other cats don't enjoy spending their afterlife with misogynists. (The shecats suffering is just a necessary sacrifice lol)

So when shecats die in Thunderclan they still belong to their master's. Extra fun of the idiot toms battling for a shecat both shared.

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MMM more thoughts about your Warriors AU:

Since Bluefur would have never had a chance of being deputy, it's tempting to think she would have kept her kits, but I still think she would have sent them to RiverClan to live a more egalitarian life (but it's even sadder because she wouldn't be able to see them at every gathering like if she was leader)

Would Tigerstar have influenced ShadowClan to have similar sexist tendencies? If not, maybe that's why Tawnypaw chose to go to ShadowClan

Alternatively, part of the reason why Tigerclaw wants to be deputy and eventual leader of ThunderClan is because he feels that Thrushstar is too "soft" on she-cats (I can't imagine he would be too tyrannical bc of how he reacted to learning Bluefur had halfclan kits)

Would Fernpaw have been assigned to Darkstripe because if so. RIP

Bluefur did give up her kits still in this AU. She was never fully okay with just being someone's pet. And she never wanted that for her daughters or to see her son become like their clanmates.

Thrushstar knows and will tell her about them at the gathering. Though she knows she'll likely never see them again.

Tigerstar tried, but Shadowclan wasn't as on board with the whole she-cats as second class cats. Still he promoted mostly toms and did make the culture more misogynistic. Tawnypaw still follows her father to Shadowclan and is his she-cat until his death.

Thrushstar is a nice leader, and soft overall. He's welcoming to outsiders and didn't punish Bluefur for losing "their" kits. He's definitely seen as wishy-washy by Tigerstar. And as a she-cat sympathizer.

Sadly yes. Fernpaw is initially Darkstripe's she-cat until things come out, then she is reassigned to Dustpelt. But by then the damage is done. While birth control herbs are typical for apprentices to take, their not a hard rule. Fernpaw was not on any while with Darkstripe.

A consistent theme in my half baked stories is she-cats getting knocked up/ having more litters.