This is one of the most stupid things anyone could say. Sasuke and Sumire would have just broken Boruto out of prison before his execution.
Sigh...if we wanna go there lets go there.
Sasuke could still leave with Boruto, but that goes into what if territory so for now I'll concede to that one point for the time being and come back to it later.
But for now, lets give her that one thing.
The problem? Sasuke is the one who does all the work, its not something she did for Boruto herself, but sent her father to do.
Sumire does not get affected by omnipotence, she stays unaffected because Ada did not say that Sarada is the reason she excluded them
Sarada wasnt affected by Ada from the start and neither was Sumire, they both realized this BEFORE Sarada even made that statement.
If Sarada and Sumire was already unaffected by her charm before she even mentions being ordinary friends, how the hell would Sumire be affected by omnipotence later? BOTH Ada's abilities are a result of omnipotence, so if Sumire is immune to one then she's also immune to the other, and Sumire was immune before Sarada even opened her mouth here.
Their literally ALREADY unaffected BEFORE she says this, so Ada was already shielding them even before Sarada said that, she wanted Sumire and Sarada to be her friends before even meeting them in person, they were immune from the get go, shown by Shikadai immediately folding when he saw Ada up close while Sarada and Sumire didnt.
So can we not play games like Ada only spared them because of some half hearted words from Sarada that came AFTER she was already unaffected?
Also their conveniently leaving out the rest of what Ada said that immediately disproves their arguments.
EVEN BEFORE I MET YOU IN PERSON
Ada had this desire BEFORE even meeting them in person, Ada WANTED friends, and she picked Sarada and Sumire purely by chance, but its no coincidence that she picked two girls who had romantic feelings for someone other than Kawaki, and someone also affected by Otsutsuki.
Ada then theorizes this herself, that maybe its because they both were similar in falling for an Otsutsuki, but she herself doesnt know the TRUE reason they were excluded and is just as clueless as the reader, pretending that Ada outright said that she 100% knows the reason their immune was because of what Sarada said is just being disengenuous and lying, Ada herself doesnt know the reason, she just knows it had SOMETHING to do with her desire to have real friends and it manifested with Sarada and Sumire being immune.
Ada never said what Sarada said triggered them to be immune, she said her own personal desire she had even before she met them was the reason they were excluded.
As for the specifics on WHY she singled them out evene she doesnt know, its an ability she has no control over nor does she understands how it works, it just happens and she's left to theorize on why it did.
But till this day we still dont know the actual reason they are immune, Ada herself doesnt even know, so this statement is a flat out lie.
Ryu 100% gets defeated, Araya had the perfect counter to Ryu with Shinki's own power imbedded in his sword, Mitsuki and Yodo were plenty capable of killing Ryu as long as his sand wasnt a problem, which Araya made sure there wasnt.
Yodo was directing Araya on where Ryu was and Araya countered him everytime, giving Mitsuki and Sarada an opening to finish him off, which both of them conveniently failed to do because Sarada had to get her MS off some bullshit.
But Sarada wasnt any help in this fight anyway, her fireball got blocked, and her Chidori was 'too shallow' to be a killing blow, so remove her and nothing of value is lost.
Mitsuki in sage mode is more than enough to completely destroy Ryu, his attacks being this weak and slow was pure nerf, he could've killed Ryu twice this fight but it only 'wasnt enough' cuz of plot.
So yes, remove Sarada from the equation and Ryu is still defeated, Araya literally had to have his sword stolen on some bs for Sarada to be needed, thats not the same as she was their only hope of winning and if she wasnt there they would die, Yodo literally dies BECAUSE Sarada was there.
Without the plot literally having to rig itself for her to be useful, Ryu goes down easily with no deaths, the only reason one happened is because KK wanted it to happen to trigger Sarada's MS.
Keep that in mind, Yodo literally dies for Sarada to get a power up, but their bragging about her saving all their lives, despite literally saying this when her comrades were being held hostage.
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'I wont sell out a friend to save myself'
Mitsuki and Araya are the ones being held hostage btw, so translation:
I wont sell out a friend to save myself OR you
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But yea lets praise her for saving them all here even though she literally said she was fine with letting them all die if it meant she didnt have to sell out Boruto.
Its Yodo who stepped up to try and save them since Sarada wasnt willing to do anything, and she died for her effort just so Sarada could get a power up from it.
Im not giving anyone praise for 'saving lives' when someone had to literally DIE for her to save anyone.
Keep that in mind, in order for her to SAVE lives, someone had to die, if someone doesnt die first, Sarada saves no lives.
Again I'll come back to the Sasuke point later, but specifically in regards to the sword, KK kills this argument entirely since the same way he teaches him his grandfathers jutsu despite never using it or experiencing it himself, he could've taught Boruto Sasuke's sword style he would've learned in the future where he and Sasuke traveled together, same way he saw a future where Naruto continued training Kawaki.
So this idea of Boruto would just be screwed entirely without Sasuke is false, the same KK they act like is no big deal is the very thing that kills every potential stakes raised by this sequel.
Boruto 100% would've still learned all of Sasuke's sword techniques whether he ranaway with him or not, because Boruto would still end up with KK regardless, and KK can teach him everything he would've learned in alternate futures.
Sumire would not be useless because
She wouldnt be affected by omnipotence
She'd still fix the sword because Boruto would still learn to use one from KK
She'd still be fake friends with Ada
Sarada's development remains unchanged
That last part is especially funny because lets say this was true, Sumire is affected by omnipotence and isnt part of Ada's fake friendship, they do realize Sarada never admits her feelings at all in this scenario right?
They realize Sarada would still be rejecting her feelings as 'weaknesses' right?
oh and most importantly, THAT SHE NEVER EVEN GETS HER MS RIGHT?
The whole reason she gets MS and sends Sasuke Boruto's way in the first place is BECAUSE Sumire is unaffected by omnipotence and pushes Sarada to do something, this girl was just sitting here crying not doing anything prior to Sumire talkin to her
If Sasuke didnt happen to run into Sarada and ran into Boruto first, Sarada wouldnt have done a danm thing to stop it, she was just sitting there crying while Boruto was being hunted, it was by pure chance Sasuke found her and Sumire contacted her right at that moment.
Sumire is the only reason Sarada got her MS here, because her eyes didnt change until after AFTER Sumire told her what had really happened.
So if we wanna talk about Sumire being under omnipotence and Sarada's development, then you need to be danm glad Sumire WASNT affected because Sarada wouldnt even have her MS if it wasnt for her, Sumire's explanation was the final push for her MS awakening, make Sumire brainwashed like everyone else, and Sarada just sits there confused and crying and ignored by everyone.
Now that we're here finally I can get back to the Sasuke point I was making earlier.
Sasuke says to Sarada he was gonna go stop Boruto while she went back to the village, so remove Sarada and Sasuke just goes straight to Boruto either before or after he's caught by Inoshikacho.
Regardless, Boruto escapes Mitsuki still because Momoshiki helps him, I mean Mitsuki already goes after him with Sarada present because she doesnt stop him, she sits there and cries while Boruto is hunted down.
So removing her really doesnt make or break the situation, Boruto is hunted down regardless because Sarada doesnt help him.
Anyway so lets say Sasuke gets to him before Inoshikacho does, Sasuke isnt emotional or irrational, he just heard Boruto killed Naruto and Hinata, Sasuke's immediate instinct isnt to just kill him on sight, he'd wanna know WHY and HOW he did it because nobody knows Naruto better than him, and he'd know something about this didnt feel right and wanna find out more before just killing Boruto on the spot.
Sasuke knows how strong Naruto is, and he knows how much Kawaki cared for Naruto and Boruto, he's not stupid enough to just kill him instantly without questioning him on WHAT the hell is going on and WHAT really happened to his best friend, Naruto, which not enough ppl key in on about the situation.
Naruto is Sasuke's best friend, obviously he wouldnt let his murder slide, but to act like Sasuke is some hot head who'd just lash out and kill Kawaki off just Ada's statement is just complete mischaracterization.
Sasuke wouldnt just accept Naruto's death and avenge him without asking any questions, if anything Naruto's death would make him question EVERYTHING because of how unbelieveable it is.
Sasuke wouldnt want Boruto dead, he'd want him alive so he can question him on how he did it and why, I think it's obvious Boruto would argue his innocence, he may not throw Kawaki under the bus, but he'll explain the situation with omnipotence and what Momoshiki told him, and since we know Sasuke can sense him, he'll know he's not lying and wonder how Momo is inside Boruto when it should be Kawaki.
But with the others in hot pursuit Sasuke doesnt have time to question Boruto fully how he wants, so rather than Sasuke taking Boruto out of the village to save him, he'd do it so he could question him more uninterrupted.
Even if Sasuke arrived AFTER inoshikacho caught him, it'd play out relatively the same, Sasuke would wanna question him on his own, so he'd 'rescue' him from them so he could confront him about what happened, then make up his mind on whether he believes him which given the evidence and how things dont add up with what he remembers, he'd most likely believe him.
The key to cementing Sasuke's belief in him is Boruto having his headband, something extremely precious to Sasuke, a symbol of his and Naruto's rivalry and reconciliation, something he KNOWS he's only EVER lent to Kawaki, and then gave permanently.
So for Boruto to have it, theres no other explanation BUT he's telling the truth about the life swap, because in his mind Kawaki was overjoyed to have the headband and would never separate from it, so how would Boruto have it?
So the main thing Sarada is praised for doing would still have happened regardless, because Sasuke wasnt letting Boruto be killed without getting answers on what happened to Naruto for himself.
Also, I dunno if anyone has ever thought of this, probably because Ikemoto forgot this was even a thing, but Sasuke still has one eye, and that eye has both the Sharingan and MS, if Sasuke were skeptical and neede hard evidence to truly be convinced, he could've just used his sharingan on Boruto and seen for himself that he was telling the truth.
So yea, the main thing Sarada is praised for doing, for 'saving' Boruto makin sure he had Sasuke by his side, still would've happened.
Because again, not enough ppl pay attention to the fact that Naruto is Sasuke's best friend when talking about this and make it seem as if the only way Sasuke wouldnt just outright kill Boruto is only by Sarada begging him to help him.
But nobody ever gives Sasuke credit on being smart enough to put together something isnt right because of his own bond with Naruto and Boruto, he doesnt NEED Sarada to convince him to do something, Sasuke would do it on his own.
We've seen time and time again in TBV that omnipotence can be overcome with logic, Himawari uses logic to know Boruto is innocent and wouldnt kill her parents, Amado uses logic to realize his memories have been altered.
Speaking of which, if Sumire was affected by omnipotence then her questioning Amado wouldnt happen, which means Amado wouldnt admit to knowing his memories have been manipulated which is what convinced Shikamaru to Boruto's side.
No Sumire questioning, no Amado confession, No Shikamaru ally.
But yea tell me more about how useless Sumire is.
Anyway back to Sasuke, anyone who understands his character knows he wouldnt have just accepted Naruto's death just like that, he'd want details, a confession, a body, something more than just 'Ada said he was killed by Boruto so thats 100% what happened'
When has Sasuke ever just taken someone at their word? he refused to believe Obito at first without proof, and even when he DID believe him, he still wanted to confirm with Danzo, and even then, he still wanted to confirm AGAIN with the 4 Kage, even though he already knew the answer, he still needed to confirm that everything really was as he was told.
So tell me why anyone would actually believe that Sasuke needed Sarada for him to have mercy on Boruto? he'd have mercy on him regardless, not cuz he doesnt wanna kill him, but cuz he wants answers first BEFORE he kills him, he wants to hear from Boruto's own mouth that he killed Naruto and WHY, and if Boruto says he didnt, then Sasuke is gonna wanna make sense of how thats true, and not allowing Boruto to be murdered by everyone hunting him down right now with no interest in asking those questions is the most logical way to do it.
So Sasuke saves Boruto regardless, be it from Sarada's pleas, or Sasuke's own desire for answers on what really happened to his friend.
'but in Momo's vision-' yea well you could make the same argument for Sarada and Sumire being immune, if Momos vision included omnipotence, then it should've included Sarada and Sumire's immunity, and thus foresaw Sarada helping Boruto escape through Sasuke.
What Momo saw is just one outcome, not infinite ones, and the one he saw was where Sarada didnt send Sasuke his way and Kawaki successfully finds and kills Boruto [or so its implied].
So using Momo's vision as proof Boruto would've died without Sarada is pointless, especially when KK who actually saw multiple outcomes said even WITH Sarada there she and Boruto still died when she tried to help him against Kawaki, so why pretend like her being present has any real game changing impact?
Remove her and the plot still happens, she doesnt ever use her MS once in the 3 years shes had it, so it wouldnt matter if she got it for the first time after Yodo died, cuz thats the first she ever uses it anyway.
Literally nothing changes by removing her from chapter 80, Sasuke goes after Boruto regardless, questions Boruto, realizes somethings up through logic like Hima and Amado did, is convinced through his own reasoning.
Plus Ada shows up to Boruto, even if Sasuke didnt believe him, Ada comes and vouches for him anyway saying that its her fault and yatta yatta infront of Sasuke.
So even after ALL that, in the end, even if you argue Sasuke wouldnt believe Boruto without Sarada, even if you argue Sasuke would've killed Boruto without Sarada, it still falls through because Ada herself goes and confesses she made all this happen.
Which brings me to my next point.
Outside of Sasuke, even if you write him off entirely and say he would indeed just stupidly lash out and kill Boruto without questioning anything.
Did they forget Ada literally goes to his aid? Ada never one has helped Kawaki or anyone else in killing Boruto, even when she tells Kawaki where he is in the future, she makes sure to stall until Boruto is about to leave so Kawaki cant get to him.
So Ada, after Daemon shows up, goes to talk to Boruto, whether she gets to him after or before inoshikacho is irrelevant because...
Did yall forget about her charm? the second she lands infront of them and tells them to back off Boruto for her, they'd do it in a heartbeat, and she'd probably fly off to safety with him to properly apologize.
As for Sasuke, if he's there already then he'd just follow after Ada, even if he had killing intent, he wouldnt act on it because of Daemon, meaning Boruto is safe from Sasuke trying to kill him through Ada.
Or, more likely, Ada would probably tell Sasuke to follow them, since she probably already looked into their master student relationship, Sasuke would be the perfect person to keep Boruto safe.
Once their alone and away from everyone, Ada confesses to everything, apologizes to Boruto, you get the rest.
So even the main thing, pretty much the ONLY thing they have to brag about, is something that still would've happened without her.
You may say well this is just fanfic, we dont know for sure.
Well actually yea we do, because Sasuke said he was going to confront Boruto, he didnt say he was going to get revenge or kill him, just that he was gonna 'stop' him which is a very broad statement compared to 'Im gonna kill him for what he did to Naruto'
Basically, he left it open to where conversation wasnt off the table, he wasnt on a rampage out for blood, he was mad, and he wanted to confront him.
Mitsuki made it very clear that he had every intention on killing Boruto, not talking, Sasuke only said he was going to stop Boruto from leaving Konoha, which at most only implies that he's going to block his exit and trap him in some way.
Sasuke has said on numerous occasions that he has no prejudices against Kawaki, and even after he tried to kill Sarada and Boruto right infront of him, Sasuke only threatened Kawaki and said he'd rather NOT have to kill him, but he WOULD if he made him.
Sasuke said to Sarada that he 'cant ignore' that he tried to kill Kawaki [Boruto] but we already saw thats a lie because he did let it slide once already, he could've killed Kawaki instantly for trying to kill Boruto AND his daughter, but he didnt, he said he'd rather NOT kill him if he doesnt have to.
Because, as I laid out before, Sasuke wanted answers, he stopped at just threatening Kawaki while Shikamaru questioned him on what happened to Naruto.
So yea you can say its fanfic, but its fanfic based off what we literally saw with our own eyes.
Same with Ada, it is a fact that once Daemon caught up to her that she went after Boruto, its a fact that Ada can turn a friend into foe instantly because her charm makes anyone do whatever she tells them to do, or simply be unable to act against her, which in the case of inoshikacho, we all know all she has to do is tell them to back off and they would, same for any other shinobi that showed up.
Its no secret that Ada would help Boruto because shes already been doing that for 3 years, she dont know KK at all but she's been workin with him behind the scenes for a long time, she's never NOT helped Boruto from the omnipotence situation, so why would anyone believe she wouldnt have saved Boruto and told Sasuke the truth so he could have an ally?
She felt bad for what she did, and she understood that Kawaki really does see Boruto as a brother and didnt WANT him to die but believed there was no other choice, her helping him is her way or making it up to Boruto, and for making Kawaki look like a coward, so why would she stop at a simple apology and not telling anyone where he was? Boruto was a 12 yr old kid, he couldnt survive on his own out there being hunted, obviously she would want Boruto to have protection and Sasuke was the best candidate.
But even THEN theres still ANOTHER variable ppl overlook for how Boruto could've got out of this without Sarada, and thats KK himself.
The same way he sent his toad at just the right time to save Boruto from the shinobi that were chasing him after Sasuke was gone, is the same way KK could've had the toad show up somewhere outside of Konoha when Boruto is surrounded then too.
The man has future sight, so he knew what would happen and where Boruto would possibly be ahead of time and could've prepared a toad in advance for reverse summoning, so its not unlikely.
As I said, everything Boruto learns from Sasuke he would still learn from KK, because KK saw all of those futures where Sasuke trained Boruto and can just tell Boruto what he saw.
So yes, Sarada's only semi credible feat is something that doesnt need her to happen, not even for her MS awakening because as we've established, she never used it once for the 3 years she had it, so her getting it at the same time she would've reawakened it changes nothing.
The best way to describe Sarada in this situation is someone who has the illusion of importance because we're told she is, but once you push away the smoke and mirrors you see the trick.
Sarada is only 'important' because we're told she is, we're told how she is important, and we're just supposed to take them at their word.
We're told Sarada is important because she 'saved' Boruto from Kawaki
She did not, the others did, in the future where they didnt she and Boruto both die.
We're told Sarada is important because she convinced Sasuke to help him
Boruto would've been helped regardless
We're told Sarada is important because she 'fights for Boruto's innocence alone'
She doesnt fight alone and her 'fight' hasnt persuaded a single person to her side in 3 years
We're told Sarada is important because her father is trapped and Hidari is targeting her, shes gonna be involved in saving her dad
She hasnt thought about saving her father once, Boruto has said already he's gonna be the one who saves Sasuke and Sarada didnt object, and now Sarada is gonna be kidnapped as bait to lure Boruto out, thats the plot for the 'Hidari' arc, even when talking to her mom the person she says she wants to help is Boruto, not her father.
We're told Sarada is important because Sasuke says she and Boruto might be the key to dealing with omnipotence
Sasuke didnt know Sumire was also immune, he only singles Sarada and Boruto out because Boruto is innocent and Sarada is the only one immune to his knowledge.
Nothing Sarada has done has been any help against omnipotence, let alot a key to stopping it, ppl thought her MS might be it but that was debunked immediately once it finally unleashed.
We're told Sarada is important because in an interview it was said that Sarada and Sasuke would have 'interesting' futures.
Not a single interesting thing has happened to them, Sasuke was written out in a tree, and Sarada has been character assassinated down to a single character trait, wanting to help Boruto and revolving her entire character around him.
Thats not interesting, thats just ass.
So yea, Sarada just has the illusion of importance because we're told all these things are what make her important.
But its just like any magic trick, once you see through all the smoke and mirrors, you see the trick.
It was never 'magic', it was never 'importance', it was all optical illusions, misdirection's, smoke and mirrors, all to keep our attention away from what was in plain sight all along.
The misdirection's is Sarada herself, just having her involved or mentioned IS the illusion itself, because if shes there, if she's name dropped, then surely she must be important right?
So all eyes are on her, completely oblivious to the trick being performed in the opposite direction.
And as long as Ikemoto can keep playing that game, that 'look! over there! Sarada!' game setting everyones sights on her so they dont see what hes really doing behind their backs, we're gonna keep seeing dumb takes like this.
