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[rennothy-bo-bennothy]

Yeah I'm beating the fucking horse again, sorry.

Not to be a filthy liberal on main but "this thing makes me uncomfortable therefore it's morally wrong" is conservative logic. That's how people justify homophobia, transphobia, racism, whatever. And being queer or supportive of queer people does not magically make you immune to conservative logic. You are not owed comfort, things are going to make you uncomfortable and you have to be able to ask yourself "is this harming anyone?" And if the answer is no then you just go "ew, gross" and block wherever it's necessary and move on. And no, again, making you uncomfortable is not harming you.

Targeted harassment is harm, intentionally sending something to another person because you know it will upset them is harm, stumbling upon something you don't want to see is not harm, stop acting like you're the victim just because the entire internet won't bend to your will and stop posting things that make you feel icky.

[echoweaver]

oh im incredibly late to this but a post or two about how upset your daughter was about the boundary update have just crossed my page. folks like her are the number one example i hate the way boundaries are enforced in mcyt fandom these days. making “rules” for what fans can or cannot create in their own space is so stupid. i hope she’s feeling better about it, you seem to be incredibly level headed about the whole thing and i so glad that she’ll have that. i hate thinking about all of the young artists and authors who got started because of mcyt and then quit due to being “not allowed” to create things of their favorite characters and ships. i hope your daughter (and you!) keep writing and drawing and everything. that drawing of hers looks awesome (i love scott’s face, the expression is so good) and i’ll try and check out some of your writing soon! have a lovely day

I'm actually kind of freaked about how those boundaries essays are still circulating, but in a good way. 😅

She is feeling better about it, after a lot of venting. She's taken her fic anonymous, which I think is wise in the current state of things. Even without the drama, she's been wanting to keep her media accounts just for lurking, but I'll post more of her work here. After the (awesome if I say so myself) tmatl!Scott portrait, she's working on a VSMP animatic for, "Choice" by Jack Stauber's Micropop. The song is pretty weird to my out-of-generation ears, but I'm wowwed by how the art is coming along. We'll probably go with the same plan, and I'll put it up on my YouTube account when it's done and link here.

[ETA: The kid says, "It's not just weird for your out-of-generation ears. It's designed to be weird." *eyeroll*]

She's been drawing more than writing, but the fic is still in the works, and it still has v!Majorscythe in it (less toxic than canon, but still pretty nuanced -- Scott is not a sweetheart).

And she reads all this stuff going through my account. The encouragement after the boundaries bombshell has meant a lot. Thanks so much. This art really does matter, for all of us. It's not a throwaway pastime for me, and it isn't for her either.

[daily-cup-of-t]

So I made a post about a week ago talking about how streamers, particularly mcyt, don't value fanworks, and in it I linked a few clips from one streamer in particular with his thoughts that he shared on stream.

Now I didn't share his name in that original post, but I'm going to share it now.

Anathra, in a stream shortly following Pyro's boundaries announcement, was talking about his feelings surrounding the whole situation, as well as his thoughts on fanwork in general, especially where shipping is involved.

These thoughts included, but were not limited to:

Comparing fans to 'karens' and other people who mistreat food and retail workers, saying that "they treat people with contempt and as inhuman"

Saying that fans don't respect creators when they make fan works

Fans creating fanart and fanfic of characters they play is "weird and unhealthy behavior", regardless if it's posted publically or privately between a group of friends or in a private server.

"You have to try to make people understand that even if they're doing it in private it's weird and wrong"

Comparing fanart and fanfic to AI generated work

In response to a comment asking "Is it not a bit disingenuous to compare fan work to a climate killing water guzzling art stealing machine?" doubling down on his comparison and saying "It's not necessarily the climate side of things, its the same morality being used. If you take the climate thing into account, AI is worse. Using just the 'creative' side of AI, is what I'm talking about."

In regards to his fans "The most you can do is get most people to listen, there's always going to be weirdos out there we all know that."

Now why am I posting this now? It has come to my attention that the clips I got of these quotes from Anathra's VOD have been taken down, along with the original VOD as well. As such, I have no concrete evidence of these quotes, however below is the proof that the clip and VOD links once existed and no longer do.

Why did you remove these clips and VOD from your channel Anathra? Did you realize that these were awful things to be saying about your fans, people who support you and love your characters, SO MUCH SO that they dedicate time and effort to create wonderful works of art inspired by your stories and characters? I have to imagine you do realize, or else you wouldn't have taken these clips down at all.

Why are you trying to hide? If you were so brave as to say these things on stream, doubling down even, then own them. If you regret speaking your mind in a stressful situation, then take accountability for your harmful words. You don't get to just say these things and ignore the consequences. I'm sick and tired of creators thinking of fans and fan*work* as something they *deserve* and can control to their own liking. Fans create these things selflessly out of a love for your storytelling, only to be told that they're "weird" and "wrong" for it? That the hours they spend working on a beautiful piece of art or incredibly complex prose and fiction is equivalent to instantly generated ai slop? AI Slop that learned FROM FAN WORK? It's incredibly demoralizing for fans who are creating these things FOR FUN with no personal gain to be hearing that the creators they look up to see them so low.

Stop hiding. Your fans deserve better than a creator who will insult them behind their backs.

07/15/26 UPDATE:

Anathra addressed the deletion of the clips and original VOD in this stream saying they were deleted because they could be taken out of context.

He also posted this message in his discord in response to someone asking if he condones people finding content that breaks his boundaries and showing it to him for the purpose of banning the people making it:

Proof of deleted VOD and clips below:

(This was a link I shared of the original VOD, which still has the original thumbnail and title, which can no longer be found on Anathra's twitch, despite being streamed ~June 8)

(My original clip of the above VOD, which has no thumbnail, and has been deleted, as well as the link showing that the clip is no longer available)

(I've not clipped anything else from Anathra aside from these clips, as I'm not even a regular viewer)

[atiredperson2799]

I’ve come to notice people are scared to even place pyro and Scott’s characters together, there use to be a lot of art all the time, but now only if there is a third character there, Fic’s have been taken down. Even a friend of mine who doesn’t even POST. They use to draw Pyro a lot, both shipping and non-shipping, they barely draw him now, much less with another character.

Yeah, the once excitement to make works of Pyro's characters has died down a whole lot.

Being scared of being harassed and or shunned from a big part of the fandom is one reason on why a lot of people now avoid drawing Pyro's characters.

But another is also the fact that what Pyro and Maddy have shown is entitlement over fanworks, because if all fanworks made of their characters, no matter how self indulgent, are thought as "gifts" to them or something they have the right to revoke from being made, then I can see why a lot of people would rather not draw their characters at all.

If artists are never allowed the freedom to create what they want, and their works can be made "illegal" the next day, then why would artists want to create works of a character when you know ccs and their mods are keeping their watchful eye over you?

I know a lot of Pyro's defenders and mods hate the word "policing" being used, but it is exactly that, a lawless place such as fandom where people create works on characters in their own free time, sometimes taking hours is now governed by someone with a larger following, using their influence to decide what you can and cannot make total.

It's mostly why I draw ship art of Pyro's characters only, I want people in this fandom to post what they want for themselves and not grown ass adults, and I don't want to show support for creators who want to throw their following around because people are playing with dolls, frame those people shipping characters as "perpetrators" and those on their side as the "good guys", like a black and white scenario which is so incredibly manipulative even if the intention may not be manipulative as I hope is the case.

Make things for yourself, not for two adults which in the end of the day have full control over what they want and don't want to see on the internet by filtering tags like the rest of us.

Ccs especially have full control on canon and the true intentions behind their characters, but they cannot sit there and act hurt because someone put their characters in a romantic relationship in another story or headcanon.

If we allow censorship of what we find problematic such as "shipping", then it's not only going to stop at what people find problematic, and could very well branch out into ccs then banning their characters being drawn disabled, or plenty of other things, in which case would that be okay?

Its a shitty situation to be in the fandom at this time, but I encourage everyone to make things for themselves because while there are a lot of loud voices defending Pyro and Maddy, there are also a lot who have shown to still want to see more works created by the fandom, for the fandom, despite a cc making it "illegal" now, that won't change people thinking that those characters could still be cute together romantically, it will only affect how safe people will feel to talk and create in these spaces.

[shadowarchive1312]

Oh and, by the way, you're a person. It's in your right to write, draw, make and say whatever you please.

The moment someone tells you not to, it's censorship.

Just so you know

[autumngracy]

Saw this twitter post and instantly started looking for pictures of Stratt to use it with

[fangirlinginleatherboots]

Being 30 is fun. I was discussing anime with a teen at work and asked her how much of bnha she had watched. She had trouble answering and wasn't sure how to approach it. I said "better question was who was your husbando" and she turned bright red before mumbling an answer. They never expect me to know how deep their love of anime boys runs....

[fangirlinginleatherboots]

One time she said she used to be into BL and another employee down the hall asked what BL was and I yelled back "ITS YAOI" which reduced the teen to yelling "ITS SOFTCORE! SOFT CORE!!" So I yelled back "ITS SOFTCORE YAOI" anyway I get why dads are like that now

[melyapperofthecentury]

This is (hopefully) the last time I'm going to talk about the CC boundary discourse being brought up again, I'm going to state my stance on this briefly and move on from this.

While there's alot of people who've made great points on posts and videos, the one I'm going to recommend most is going to be Frostbyte Freeman's video on this topic "How Minecraft Content Creator Boundaries (Don't) Work" which I watched yesterday and I agreed with it. I'm going to try and keep it as short and simple as I can, but because of that, it doesn't contain everything it needs to so I ask that you don't make any assumptions on me.

The internet is going to make what they want with the media you create. I know that seeing your creations in a way you would never want to see them hurts but there is no way to really stop it. Some people aren't going to listen to you asking them to not make something, they're going to treat your boundary as it is and make it exist somewhere else. You have the choice to give those creations a space to exist where you won't see it or you can get frustrated over how you can't control what exists and what doesn't. For example, If I wished that slow-burn fictional works didn't exist, all I can really do is to not read any and keep it out of my spaces via blocking. (This is not slow-burn slander, I'm just using it as an example). Or you can harass, target, monitor, invade and report people for doing that even out of your sight thus making your fanbase more toxic and unsafe.

At the very least, tell your fans to not harass people and block people. Oh and do that yourself too. All I'm asking for is to prioritize the safety and health of yourself and your fanbase over creating a toxic environment by attempting to eradicate something.

Moving forward, I'm going to do everything I can to make the places I go to as safe and healthy as I can. I will personally follow boundaries but I don't support harassing the people who don't off the internet or in general, you can dislike them but you really just have to block them and move on instead of spreading negativity. I might delete some of my posts on this for my own safety.

As always, stay safe and love yourself. No matter who you are, you deserve the chance to heal and grow as a person. Allow yourself that.

This is my personal opinion that you do not have to agree with or condone. If you dislike me for having this stance, feel free to block me.

[sunflowerbunnie]

Over the past week or so, I've been periodically scrolling the "mcyt discourse" tag. In general, I like seeing what people have to say and why they think what they think.

Here's my two cents as someone who did a sociology/anthropology class final project on the Modern MCYT Fandom:

This is honestly such a recent problem for the MCYT community, yet it's also not?

There has always been RPF and/or shipping in the fandom since everything exploded in the 2010s. But there are two ways that this was different in a sense:

1. Creators didn't interact with the fandom directly, and the fandom didn't interact with the creators directly. Sure, there are videos of Lizzie and Joel reading Wattpad, but the Minecraft content wasn't based around lore or storylines. It was stuff like CrazyCraft, FunCraft, CuteCraft, and basically every ____craft series ever.

And 2. Often a lot (though not all) of the shipping stuff one would find back then would be related to Minecraft Roleplays - but different to what we see today. Original stories that happen to be produced through Minecraft, with Voice Actors and everything. One example would be Aphmau's roleplays.

But ever since we saw a renaissance of Minecraft content during 2020, specifically with the Dream SMP, the lines between the two blurred.

The characters people played had the same names as them, and the format of streamed SMPs allows for even more blurring as you have both in-character and out-of-character interactions.

Combine this with the fact that the idea of shipping (even if it wasn't referred to as such) has always been a thing since people could become fans of various media, and you have the perfect storm.

And this perfect storm has resulted in all of the discourse we see today.

The idea of streamed SMPs automatically feeds into the blurring of lines between a creator and a character. They share a name, and possibly personality types.

I also want to point out that we see a similar thing with the Hermitcraft, Life Series, Empires, and (somewhat) Vampires fandoms (or rather, those are the ones I'm most familiar with). Heck, the Ish Civilization videos have also contributed to this.

This is certainly not just a streamer SMP issue.

It begs the question of "where does the creator end and the character begin". And often there is no absolute answer.

THIS is what I mean when I say that this is a relatively new problem for our community.

Because now the lines end up so blurred. Not just between creator and character, but also RPF and non-RPF. Pre-2020, there was a clear distinction between the two. But now, it's almost a perfect gradient with how blurry the line is.

I'm not going to add to the conversation of Creator Boundaries. That topic has been milked dry since it comes up every time a creator even mentions boundaries. I personally am very neutral on the topic. I understand points from both sides.

Either way, I'm just hoping to help add some nuance to the situation as a whole. I wanted to touch upon this as my project did mention the topic of shipping multiple times.

Have a good timezone <3

[dobrydoberman]

Regarding boundaries, I think that what some people (fans and creators alike) don't realize is that when you watch someone or something, you form an opinion on it. This opinion could be closer to the Original Intent of the work depending on how skilled the original creator is, but they still can't have complete control over an audience's opinion. At least one person will think your mcrp was the best roleplay they've ever seen and someone else will watch the same thing and hate it for the exact same reasons someone loved it.

I don't think it's too big of a jump in logic to see that someone's opinion of your work could inspire them to make something of their own, especially if they're already working within the context of your work's canon. Which, then, fanworks can be argued that they exist as an extension of an opinion and to ban a specific opinion or general criticism is, in fact, censorship.

Additionally, the fact that every space a cc interacts with their audience is always inundated with extreme positivity makes me think that they see it as a baseline, as normal, and not as an extreme. Therefore, any art not made "for them" (made with their boundaries in mind) is not only uncomfortable for them because they're looking at/reading potentially triggering topics, they're also treating boundary breaking art as insults, criticism, and general negativity, even if the fanwork was made from a place of love and adoration.

[mcyt-researcher]

Research: Understanding MCYT Boundaries

SURVEY LINK

During my time in mcyt fandom, I've watched as the fandom's perception of creator boundaries has grown and shifted into a cornerstone of our fandom, and yet we don't actually have any good data on how the fandom as a whole perceives them outside of discourse posts.

The goal of this unofficial study NOT to make a value judgement on whether creator boundaries should be respected - it is to understand how the fandom currently perceives and interacts with them.* Is respecting creator boundaries important to you? Has your favorite creator made a boundary list or spoken about it on stream? Do you find some boundaries acceptable and others not? Have you ever been the target of hate for engaging with boundary-breaking content? Whether you think boundaries should always be respected or you think they're being used as tools of censorship, I want to hear from you. What are boundaries, and why do they matter so much to us?

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This survey is a mix of multiple choice and optional long-response questions. It should take about 15 minutes if you’re only doing the required questions, and much longer if you choose to answer the optional questions.**

If you are able, please reblog and share this survey link around. Feel free to post it on any platform, as I am currently only on Tumblr, which is not representative of the fandom as a whole. In fact, I’d love it if it reached Twitter. The more responses, the more accurate the results will be for the whole of mcyt.*** Anyone in mcyt spaces, including creators, are welcome to take the survey to share their thoughts. However, I ask that for the comfort of content creators and the spirit of good fandom etiquete, please do not directly share the survey with any creator or post the link in any creators’ official communities. Thoughtful discussion is always valued over reactionary comments.

The survey is set to close at 11:59pm EST on August 1, 2026 - I may extend this date if there is still a high volume of responses coming in, or if there aren’t enough responses yet for meaningful data. I will aim to publish the results within a month of the survey’s close, and keep you updated on the timeline if that’s not feasible for any reason.

A huge thank you to everyone who helped beta this survey- you all gave such wonderful suggestions! I wish I could’ve kept every question, but in the end a lot needed to be cut to make this manageable. Please know that I appreciate every one of you, as this survey would not exist today without you.

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* Why I think this data is important to collect: The idea for this survey came to me almost a year ago, and I started developing it around February of this year. I’ve spoken with dozens of people about this topic with diverse opinions, read and catalogued hundreds of tumblr posts, rewatched streams and videos by creators and fans, and watched as opinions have shifted across fandoms in real time. I feel extremely confident in saying that every person on every side cares deeply about respecting others and creating safe, welcoming communities in all mcyt spaces. Where they differ is on how to show that respect, which kinds of expectations they think are reasonable in different spaces, and beliefs on how those in power should be using their influence. I don’t expect this survey’s results to fundamentally change anything - this debate has been going on longer than mcyt has existed. But I think it’s still important to analyze the actual arguments people are making and how they affect our communities, instead of focusing on expected behavior from others based on our own values, so we can see the varying expressions of humanity in each other and work towards a better future for our fandom. I don’t think we’re as different as the discourse may have us believe.

** This survey is designed to encourage all participants to think critically about their position and the effects it has. I am aware that I have my own personal biases, so I have taken steps to ensure that the survey is as bipartisan as possible and also gives participants the opportunity to explain their answers for every question if they feel the need. Because of this, there may be questions that make some participants uncomfortable. While I would appreciate knowing why a question has made someone uncomfortable, participants are always free to skip such long-response questions.

*** I’m well aware that any recent discourse on this topic may skew results if arguments on one side are more successful than another in convincing fans of a particular position. I still think the data will be valuable even with a potential skew.

[rennothy-bo-bennothy]

Yeah I'm beating the fucking horse again, sorry.

Not to be a filthy liberal on main but "this thing makes me uncomfortable therefore it's morally wrong" is conservative logic. That's how people justify homophobia, transphobia, racism, whatever. And being queer or supportive of queer people does not magically make you immune to conservative logic. You are not owed comfort, things are going to make you uncomfortable and you have to be able to ask yourself "is this harming anyone?" And if the answer is no then you just go "ew, gross" and block wherever it's necessary and move on. And no, again, making you uncomfortable is not harming you.

Targeted harassment is harm, intentionally sending something to another person because you know it will upset them is harm, stumbling upon something you don't want to see is not harm, stop acting like you're the victim just because the entire internet won't bend to your will and stop posting things that make you feel icky.

[sunflowerbunnie]

Over the past week or so, I've been periodically scrolling the "mcyt discourse" tag. In general, I like seeing what people have to say and why they think what they think.

Here's my two cents as someone who did a sociology/anthropology class final project on the Modern MCYT Fandom:

This is honestly such a recent problem for the MCYT community, yet it's also not?

There has always been RPF and/or shipping in the fandom since everything exploded in the 2010s. But there are two ways that this was different in a sense:

1. Creators didn't interact with the fandom directly, and the fandom didn't interact with the creators directly. Sure, there are videos of Lizzie and Joel reading Wattpad, but the Minecraft content wasn't based around lore or storylines. It was stuff like CrazyCraft, FunCraft, CuteCraft, and basically every ____craft series ever.

And 2. Often a lot (though not all) of the shipping stuff one would find back then would be related to Minecraft Roleplays - but different to what we see today. Original stories that happen to be produced through Minecraft, with Voice Actors and everything. One example would be Aphmau's roleplays.

But ever since we saw a renaissance of Minecraft content during 2020, specifically with the Dream SMP, the lines between the two blurred.

The characters people played had the same names as them, and the format of streamed SMPs allows for even more blurring as you have both in-character and out-of-character interactions.

Combine this with the fact that the idea of shipping (even if it wasn't referred to as such) has always been a thing since people could become fans of various media, and you have the perfect storm.

And this perfect storm has resulted in all of the discourse we see today.

The idea of streamed SMPs automatically feeds into the blurring of lines between a creator and a character. They share a name, and possibly personality types.

I also want to point out that we see a similar thing with the Hermitcraft, Life Series, Empires, and (somewhat) Vampires fandoms (or rather, those are the ones I'm most familiar with). Heck, the Ish Civilization videos have also contributed to this.

This is certainly not just a streamer SMP issue.

It begs the question of "where does the creator end and the character begin". And often there is no absolute answer.

THIS is what I mean when I say that this is a relatively new problem for our community.

Because now the lines end up so blurred. Not just between creator and character, but also RPF and non-RPF. Pre-2020, there was a clear distinction between the two. But now, it's almost a perfect gradient with how blurry the line is.

I'm not going to add to the conversation of Creator Boundaries. That topic has been milked dry since it comes up every time a creator even mentions boundaries. I personally am very neutral on the topic. I understand points from both sides.

Either way, I'm just hoping to help add some nuance to the situation as a whole. I wanted to touch upon this as my project did mention the topic of shipping multiple times.

Have a good timezone <3

[thehumantrampoline]

I kept forgetting my nighttime antidepressant so I set an alarm where the sound was a recording of me saying "HEY. TAKE YOUR FUCKING PILL" because I thought it would be funny. It was funny about three times, and then it started making me mad and I'd dismiss it right away to make it stop. So I handed my phone to my partner, who made another recording sweetly saying "Okay Shira, it's time to take your medication" and now I don't get mad anymore and I take my pill. The "compassion over punishment" camp has gotta get something wrong one of these days

[finnglas]

There’s an episode of Sesame Street (on Netflix! you can watch it easily!) where Elmo attends a toy-swap, where you offer up old toys you don’t play with anymore and receive someone else’s toys that are new to you. Cute!

But Elmo, after cheerfully surrendering his old toys, sees that the children who swapped toys with him are playing with his toys “wrong”! They’re imagining entirely different make believe scenarios! They’re pretending the football is a dinosaur egg instead of a rocket ship! Aaahhhhh!!!! And this is so distressing to poor Elmo that he does the unthinkable: He does swapsies-backsies and takes all his toys back!

This being Sesame Street, he learns that you can’t control how other people play pretend, but you can join in if you want to! And if you don’t want to, that’s ok, you can just play pretend your own way by yourself or with someone else who wants to play that way too. You can still be friends with people who play pretend differently than you (and aren’t being mean/harmful/etc, do not bad-faith-read this 🤨).

Anyway this is a post about fandom.

[indigosaffron]

I hate that the MCYT community genuinely cares more about "boundary breaking" than the rampant sexism and racism in their spaces. Like why don't you direct ur energy and anger towards THAT instead of publically shaming ppl for what they post on ao3??