In this house we hate Logan Sanders

U!Logan blog, read the pinned post for tagging system and DNI's -- [Names: Party/Atlas | Pronouns:  hey/they/xe /other neos| Minor] -- Main: @pyr0cue-- U!Janus: @unsympathetic-snake

[unsympathetic-teach]

Hi! You can call me Party, Icarus, Jester, GoGo, or Roman. For pronouns: Poi/Moon/Ae/Ray/Sol/Neon/Ey/Xe/It/Sun/Void/Lun/Fire (or just use my name)

I don’t write, but i draw. Requests or prompts are open! 

My main is @supremecourtjester and my u!janus blog is @unsympathetic-snake if you want to check either of those out

Tags for blocking purposes (these may be updated every now and then): 

#logan critical and #logan criticism: posts or asks that criticize Logan’s canon character

#logan negativity: random hate or non-analytical posts about logan

#u!logan and #unsympathetic logan: hc’s, art, or fics about u!logan

#abusive Logan: hc’s, art, or fics that depict Logan being physically or emotionally abusive

#manipulative Logan: hc’s, art, or fics that show Logan manipulating other characters

(these also apply to any other sides that might be included in posts or asks)

#tw [_]: trigger warnings 

#ts discourse: criticism of the ts fandom

#victim [character]: when a side or character is portrayed as the victim of abuse or manipulation in a post

#art: u!logan art

#fic: u!logan fics 

#art?: my u!logan art

#ro’s rambles: my own loose ideas or hc’s.

#ro rants: my own vents or rants 

If you need anything else tagged please DM me or send and ask so I can tag it!

Don’t ask/submit/request: nsfw, heavy gore, romantic dukexiety, romantic anxciet, romantic moxiety, romantic roceit u!roman, u!patton, or u!virgil

Please put trigger warnings before you send an ask if if has heavy content

If you want me to add on with more head canons please specify that in your ask

DNI: lgbtphobes, terfs, exclutionists, anti-neopronouns racists, facists, pro-lifers, white supremacists, maps/pedos, incest/pedo shippers, superstraight/superterm

[unsympathetic-teach]

Should I watch the new episode……

[unsympathetic-teach]

Saw 11 was confirmed before the sanders sides series finale. Help.

[unsympathetic-teach]

Oh fuck is there finally a new fucking episode

[unsympathetic-teach]

Oh nvm it’s just another asides.

[unsympathetic-teach]

For a minuet I was actually a little excited. But no.

[unsympathetic-teach]

Oh fuck is there finally a new fucking episode

[unsympathetic-teach]

Oh nvm it’s just another asides.

[unsympathetic-teach]

Oh fuck is there finally a new fucking episode

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UHMM IGNORE EVERYTHING IVE BEEN POSTING WRONG BLOG!!

[unsympathetic-teach]

Previous anon, I wasn't talking about the incorrect quotes videos. I didn't watch that video either. I was talking about a photo that Thomas posted on Twitter of Logan with a beard.

Ok I did look but I can’t find the post on instagram and I’m not willing to jump back into the SaSi tumblr trenches to find it lol

[unsympathetic-teach]

This is the only place where I feel safe sharing this take but the Logan with a beard picture was not hot. Like at all. I don't get why everyone says he looks hot

The picture of Logan with a what now

[unsympathetic-teach]

@tubbocentral I haven’t seen a single incorrects video and I’m thankful for my ignorance now

[adriles]

im easily enraptured by violence and bloodshed

[unsympathetic-teach]

This is the only place where I feel safe sharing this take but the Logan with a beard picture was not hot. Like at all. I don't get why everyone says he looks hot

The picture of Logan with a what now

[ashstfu]

i wish there were more than 24 hours in a day and beverages were $1 and growing up didn’t hurt so much

[doodle-devil]

[unsympathetic-teach]

I’m worried that fanonization might ruin Sanders Sides. As the hiatus goes on for longer, the idea of the fanon sides being equal to the canon sides roots deeper into peoples minds. Now, Thomas has 3 routes he might go with.

First is writing the series similar to the fanon interpretation. I know he says he doesn’t read the fanfics nor gives big plot stuff to the writer’s room, however he’s not completely cut off from fanon. What I mean is incorrect quotes and fanart. Now, reading and looking at these things isn’t necessarily bad, but with such a disconnect between canon and fanon as well as Joan (who some consider to be the main reason TSS is so good) being out of the picture, it can be very easy to accidentally affirm some of these fanon ideas.

Second is to try his best to stick completely to canon. This would be difficult seeing as how much the arcs of some characters like Logan’s are moving closer to fanon.

Finally, a mix of canon and fanon interpretation of the characters. Now, this is probably what’s happening now but the problem is how much closer to fanon he’s leaning towards.

Just sticking to Logan here, his slight and entertaining meanness was fun and a good way to start a positive arc. However, as we see in DWIT and WTIT, he’s moving towards a positive arc that starts from him feeling ignored. Now, this would be all well and good if he was actually that ignored. Most of the problems that occur in the episodes have the sides listen to him and solve the problem. Having this arc would be okay if there was a concrete basis for it. With this set-up, he can come off as overreacting. A logical conclusion to the arc based off of his past behavior would be him learning how he’s blowing things out of proportion. But with the “retconned” (I say it like that because his past interactions don’t line up with his reaction now) set-up, it seems like the way they would conclude the arc is with Logan “finally being listened to”.

Now, this is all speculation but it does seem like it’s finishing that way. All I can hope for is that his arc ends logically with him finding out that it’s all just an overreaction like the character would have wanted.

-JBSRM

I don’t have much to add to this. I hope the series either starts feeling like…separate from the fandom again or fizzles out at this point, honestly.

[unsympathetic-teach]

nooo clue if you'll remember me in the slightest, but hi i used to be unsymp-intruloceit / 👑 anon and ran an anti logan discord server . im almost fully out the ts fandom now (mostly caused by the lack of content, the only way you could say im in the fandom is through the fact i have a crit blog lol) but! i just wanted to send an ask wishing you well :]

srry if this is weird i refound your blog through some ts criticism reblogs and was hit in the face with memories /lh

So sorry I totally forgot to answer this lol

I’m mostly in the same boat is you. I’m not really in the fandom anymore but sometimes I lurk a little bit. But I definitely remember you from the discord server, it’s good to hear your still around!

[unsympathetic-teach]

Honestly, I love fanon Logan. But that's because I thought it wouldn't become canon. Those fanfics include non-canon scenarios and change canon scenarios for the fanfiction to work.

There's not enough in actual canon to give Logan a proper "not ignored, now dark" style arc. It can only be held up in fanon.

Canon Logan can be a bit of an asshole, but quite a few Logan stans either look away or distort it to make the character fit his fanon characterization.

Even though I love the character and reading fanfiction about it, the direction his arc is going is not healthy for anyone in the series.

-JBSRM

oh yeah for sure

i actually. don't really mind canon logan at all? I personally don't love fanon logan but i love the fact that people love his character enough to write fanfic and draw fanart. Like it's amazing that there's even a community to do that.

But the thing that is just. kind of annoying is that - like you said - fanon logan is NOT canon logan. The way he acts is canon is actually very different from the way fandom says he does yet many people try to say that their interpretation of him is canonical.

Like yes! He's a bit of an asshole! That makes him interesting (and literally all of the sides are kind of assholes sometimes..) and trying to make all his actions out to be completely justifiable is 1) just plain wrong and 2) annoying.

so yeah. I think fanon sides are really cool actually! But like...the way that fanon has been...idk like pushing more and more into the actual series is indicative of a problem with the writing i think

[tscritical]

i just had a startling and eye opening realization

guys… season two started on september 1, 2017. it’s 2023 and the finale hasn’t even been fully filmed yet. what the entire fuck that puts so much into perspective

why on EARTH is it taking an entire team of people like five to six YEARS to finish a SINGLE SEASON??????? THERES ONLY BEEN THIRTEEN EPISODES SO FAR??????????

[angrycatlovesfandoms]

Yeah no at this point im pretty confident tomas isnt interested in the project but its probably making money so he's staying

[unsympathetic-teach]

dam that sucks 💔💔 i like sanders sides but the fandom is just so . icky and annoying

i made a post on my blog for the first time in months talking abt how i left the fandom mainly bc logan and his stans made me mad , and of course within hours a logan stan replied trying to argue with me .

i wish people could just be chill and not fight over which characters are innocent angels and what the team should have done . i want to be able to just enjoy fan content without worrying abt the discourse , but thats so hard on most bigger tumblr fandoms sadly

-🖍🦨

Augh I'm so sorry they tried to argue with you. It's your personal blog!! and there's this thing called a block button! I don't understand the need to get everyone on their side :/

And yeah, I feel that so much with sanders sides. I want to enjoy the characters as they are: nuanced characters with multiple facets, many flaws and many talents. They are all loveable and hateable in their own ways, and I don't really hate any of them, I just hate the fan narrative around some of them. I wish I saw less debate about which side was the best in terms of.......good deeds vs. bad deeds? I wish there wasn't as much fighting over whether or not you can enjoy a character. I wish we could coexist and have fun and not worry about whether or not we'll get hate for (*glances at writing on palm*) making fan content about the characters were in the fandom for.

And the discourse is out of hand for sure, and its just...annoying. And sad, kind of, that theres nothing in this fandom that doesnt have some sort of discourse surronding that (and sometimes thats good! sometimes the "discourse" is actually just people trying to say "hey this thing a lot of fans are doing is shitty and they should stop" and people have to argue the valid point.)

And yeah! This does tend to happen in bigger fandoms! But its so exhausting here, maybe because of the nature of the show or maybe because I was in the fandom before it was like this. But it's just tiring, and I hate that I have such negative feelings surronding the show because of it :/