so I just watched the odyssey movie....
and I made this within 5 minutes of returning. so I think that sums up my thoughts on it. (though im willing to rant more if ppl want it. cause I have COMPLAINTS)
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so I just watched the odyssey movie....
and I made this within 5 minutes of returning. so I think that sums up my thoughts on it. (though im willing to rant more if ppl want it. cause I have COMPLAINTS)
the alternative ending nolan crafted for his 2026 adaptation of "the odyssey" genuinely summarises everything wrong with this movie's characterisation of odysseus.
because no, not in a million years, would odysseus "i yell my name and home address to the beast i blinded out of pride so he knows who tf i am." of ithaca, mr. "killed 108 men cock out" and "the reason for the fall of troy" just decide that finally, after he got home to his throne 20 years later to go "you know what man i am lowkey tired as hell from this i am old and weak and fragile let my chud son be king"
he simply would not do that he is soo prideful and selfish to do that.
and thatās the problem, the movie tries its best to not show odysseus as immoral or selfish or prideful, for some reason. itās too scared to show you the real king of ithaca, and at that point, why make an adaptation at all?
it turned one of the most interesting and complex greek heroes, who is characterised with traits usually associated with villains and cowards in ancient myths, into just some guy.
Donāt spoil the odyssey? Brother youāve had 3000 years to read it
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nolanās odyssey is such a textbook study on the idiocy and dangers of presentism. yes of course penelope is a modern day feminist who wants to rule ithaca by herself. they make telemachus say that GREECE IS THE GREATEST CIVILIZATION IN THE WORLD as if the entire point of the massing of achaeans at troy for one unified cause isnāt spectacular precisely because THERE IS NO CONCEPT OF A UNIFIED GREECE NATIONS DO NOT EXISTTTTTT YETTTTT. literally 101 on historical writing is making sure that youāre avoiding strict periodization because the people living in a āperiodā will not identify themselves that way. ever. five million cheeky nods to āthe sea peoplesā but weāre being cute and coy and calling them āthe people from the sea.ā the obsession with xenia but refusal to call it xenia yes letās say āzeusās lawā a hundred times and reduce it to the literal expectation that any stranger could be a god in disguise. how was penelope just hanging out in the main hall of the palace with her husbandās dinner guests while they were playing with weapons with her HAIR COMPLETELY DOWN no veil no nothing just chilling casually. comical. stoppppp making movies that engage in historical viewpoints if youāre going to slather a modernized coat of paint over the top. āthe past is a foreign country, they do things differently there.ā or fucking whatever.
I can forgive historical inaccuracy, but I cannot forgive being boring
Just watched The Odyssey 2026 and my god were the characters done dirty...
Hate hate hate what they did with Odysseus's characterization like you cannot be serious. Who is Odysseus if not a sly clever liar (affectionate).
Now he's just some modern goody two shoes inner dilemma hero in a sea of them. They stripped him of his whimsy and cruelty both.
#NotmyOdysseus
There's not one moment in the film where I could go, ahh there he is Odysseus being Odysseus. Not one instance of him being clever, he's just lucky...
Didn't add the 'Nobody' scene but still made him shoot at Polyphemus which starts it all which doesn't even make sense with his characterization in the movie. The Polyphemus scene is supposed to highlight Odysseus's cleverness and hubris but the movie version of him has no pride!
Don't even get me started on Athena & Odysseus! Odysseus famously Athena's star pupil is not.... Instead she's haunting his guilt? Athena who famously interfered in the book to aid Odysseus like a lot... directly and behind the scenes.
In the book Mentor was actually Athena in disguise so I was so hoping for it to be her since Telemachus remarks multiple times about 'wise eyes' but no... it was about how you shouldn't see gods in people blah blah BORING!!!!
'Defy the Gods' Ah yes Odysseus famously devout follower of Athena...
I couldn't help but notice how dirty the female characters were done compared to their Epic counterparts and the erasure of Anticlea during the Underworld scene.
And I'd like to talk more about it, starting with Athena! She is one of the active players who guides both Odysseus's and Telemachus's journey. When Odysseus reaches Ithaca it was Athena who makes him look like an old beggar. Even in the final battle against suitors she deflects their spears to protect Odysseus and afterwards when nobles are angry Odysseus essentially killed their sons Athena steps in herself to establish the peace.
She is integral to the story, there is no Odyssey without her!! Odysseus only survived and made it back home due to her guidance and interference, removing her entirely is a disservice to the actual Epic being adapted.
And second character is Penelope, my Queen!!! I want to get this out of the way Anne Hathaway is in my personal opinion the standout of this film, she did amazing with what she was given. However that is to say, they didn't give her much. They cut off many Penelope moments that give us a taste of her own cleverness (making her a true partner for Odysseus) in favor of some simple status pin which isn't a good trade off imo.
The Olive Tree Bed moment was also not in the movie to my disappointment. A scene that clearly demonstrates how she tricks her own extremely clever trickster husband rather than some pin symbolism.
Circe and Calypso.... the less said about them the better though I hated their costuming.... Where were Circe's nymphs? or not nymphs since Nolan is allergic to whimsy even handmaidens? Circe is a powerful GODDESS š(Why was a raven/crow her sister? Was it supposed to be Pasiphae? If yes then I have so many more questions.)
I hate Calypso so i won't waste any words on her but its so funny that they made Odysseus eat Lotus Flower like lmaoooo you can't make this shit up..
I didn't like the costuming, the hair, the armor, the lightening either. I hated the look of Ithaca's palace and the ending like Odysseus... leaves Ithaca and his son after just arriving????
I also think it's so peculiar how Nolan didn't want an orchestra in sound design when the Homeric era didn't have that and then have everything else inaccurate from the armor design to the choice of modernised dialogue (surprisingly I didn't mind the modernised dialogue, not when the movie had larger issues).
Though props to them for making the pig transformation disturbing & sickening and not props for making Scylla lame ass design when her description is genuinely so horrifying, I believe the Odyssey could have been Nolan's first venture into VFX- nothing wrong with a little of it especially while adapting mythological creatures though disappointingly Nolan still clings to his practical only approach.
Also props for a good Eurylochus, making me side eye him and still making me feel sorry for him at the same time.
Side minor note: icky that they cast a black woman for Helen only for her to be abused and miserable when the source material makes no note of it, not a good look imo.
Also since they did deviate from the Poem of the Odyssey and included references to other Epic cycles, I wish they could have added Palamedes and Odysseus acting insane since I felt like the setup for it was there in the film with the scene of Odysseus and Penelope before war and it could be a scene to show again, his prominent cleverness that's direly missing from the film.
When the Trojans put a spear in the horse to verify, I had thought in that moment it was a reference to the omen of Laocoon and sea serpents would appear next but then it happened again and again and was just a tool to create tension.
(Again before anyone says Laoccon is not canon to Homer but neither is anything about the Trojan Horse except a few mentions in the Odyssey. If the sack of Troy has been expanded it would have been nice to see other epics being referenced.)
Why was Apollo the Sun God? What is this Percy Jackson?
All in all, if it was just any other standalone it would be strong 3.5 to 3.75 but as something that has source material an underwhelming 2.5 to 3.
The rating 3 is the average and generous because the film does look good so there's that.
Taking creative liberties in adapting an already existing source material is a thing but it's forgivable and completely understandable only as long as it serves its purpose to enchance the original material for a new medium but I feel like this movie changed the core of who Odysseus is as a character/person completely, erased his mentorship bond with Athena, erased his cleverness and trickster nature, whitewashed him and in the end the character isn't even identifiable as Odysseus anymore.
From Time Magazine interview that Nolan did it was noted that,
For Nolan, one of the hardest things about adapting The Odyssey is that in The Iliad, Odysseus has a relatively minor role. āA lot of the characteristics of Odysseus that can be really admirable in a supporting character, like being a bit clever, being a bit slick, when your hero is like that, it doesnāt always work,ā he says. āThereās a reason that in Star Wars, youāve got Han Solo, but youāve also got Luke Skywalker, a heroic figure thatās a little more pure and transparent. So the challenge was to be true to the complexity of Odysseus but make him relatable for the audience.ā
Which I think is precisely why he got Odysseus so wrong and this movie failed as an adaptation, the rigidness and the lack of letting go of realism to the nth degree.
I already hate nolanās adaptation of the odyssey for many reasons āĀ including casting matt āracist about the roles he takes and really fucking iffy with his #metoo responseā damon and anne ābotoxed her way out of facial expressionsā hathaway (obligatory āobviously all actresses are damned if they do damned if they donāt by a patriarchal culture and a predatory system that insists they remain youthful foreverā but it is always disappointing when they bow to the patriarchy especially while condescending to others about behaving otherwise) āĀ not the least of which is I want older white men to stop fucking adapting the odyssey. and not but I do think it is Very Funny that people seem to be violently upset by a) lupita nyongāo being cast as helen as if she doesnāt have THE face that would launch a thousand ships and b) the possibility of elliot page being cast as achilles because I think that man could play my favorite blond overdramatic twunk in a heartbeat and trans achilles would be fucking delicious
anyway stan the only two adaptations of the odyssey that matter, dr. emily wilsonās beautiful and painstakingly careful translation and jorge rivera-herransā fucking gorgeous epic: the musical
going to see the odyssey. my expectations are thus: it will be visually stunning (especially the fight scenes), dark (both literally and emotionally), and not much more than that so I'll be kind of bored.
okay so that was lowkey ass actually. feels like watching a three hour thinkpiece from someone who only read a plot-summary.
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