Sitting in the Void

welcome! You can call me Void! My pronouns are he/it/void lil blog specifically made for proshipping! If you're an anti I suggest you turn back now Any harassment will be entertainment to me so go ahead and try if you really want to :)

[void-with-a-keyboard]

intro post for yours truly!

hello, im void! my pronouns are he/it/void (dont use they/them on me. only exception is if you dont know/remember my pronouns). just a silly goofy goober doing silly goofy things! this is my lil corner of the internet where i talk about my lovely little ships without shame nor limits

a lot of the ships i will be talking about here will often be incestuous, abusive/dark, and potentially with an age gap so be warned and dont look at things you dont want to :3

also, im not going to baby you. im not going to put in every post "reminder that this is bad!!" because you should know that by now. if you dont, then maybe you should recheck your morals/standards and not rely on a person on tumblr to remind you that something is bad. just because i enjoy it in fiction doesnt mean i condone it irl. that shouldnt have to be said

any hate asks will be greatly enjoyed so please! send them my way! you wont be doing anything revolutionary with it so its just entertainment for me <3

we also have a discord server thats proship safe and we frequently talk a out celestialcest! if you want to join you can dm me or @ouchthenarcopath and we will guide you from there!

hope you have a wonderful time here perusing my wonderful little blog

and remember, DNIs go both ways ;3

[hyperlexichypatia]

You have got to stop referring to video games, fiction, drawings, etc. as "CSAM."

This defeats the entire purpose of the term "CSAM" (child sexual abuse material) which is that it's material of a child being sexually abused. The term was coined by anti-CSAM advocates because this material was being called "child porn," and it's not "porn." "Porn" generally refers to fiction, and CSAM is not fiction. It's real footage of real children being really abused.

"CSAM" is to "child abuse" as "snuff film" is to "murder." It is real filmed violence against a real human person. Games/drawings/fiction depiction child abuse as a plot point in a work of fiction are to child abuse as, e.g., murder mysteries are to murder. It's a fictional story in a fictional medium. No real human people are harmed in its production. You can argue -- and many people do -- about whether the fictional depiction "sends a bad message" or whatever, but it is not, literally, a snuff film or CSAM.

Referring to fiction as "CSAM" not only needlessly gives cover to moral panic and censorship; it also completely dilutes the harm of CSAM. The harm of CSAM is not that it's morally bad media that sends a bad message. The harm is that real human people are abused in its production.

[sycamorality]

fictional character savem e. sabe me fictional charfacter. save me fictional cjatcvter help . save me fictionlj charcter

[pintmother]

im sorry im a pervert, now hold hands with me please

[void-with-a-keyboard]

thhought about tallulah upskirt shot and stopped breathing

if they dont make mugman do drag at LEAST once in motm i'll lose my mind </3

[nineinchbruises]

nooo haha don't force me to confess all the gross things i want you to do to me in attempt to embarrass and humiliate me nooooo lol that would suuuuuck hahaha...

[stockholmgf]

omg that’s so creepy I can’t believe you’d say something like that *ears perking up like a dog* you’re such a perv

[void-with-a-keyboard]

need to use this blog more i swearrr im still here this is just a side blog so i only use it occasionally </3

[void-with-a-keyboard]

sighs wistfully... i miss incest posting.....

[blackheartbiohazards]

"I don't want to read this" is totally valid.

"This is disgusting to me" is totally valid.

"I don't want to read this because it is disgusting to me" is totally valid.

"I don't think anyone should be allowed to read or write this because it is disgusting to me" is authoritarian.

[blackheartbiohazards]

"I don't think anyone should be allowed to read or write this because it is disgusting to me" is authoritarian.

[spellscarred]

Bro, blocking someone and then using their tag like this is, all offence, weak as fuck. Like all you had to say was, na bro I don't promote pedo protags on this here blog, because I wholly agree with the premise of your argument given contexts (i.e., writing abusive relationships to show the evils, great; writing abusive relationships to show the romance, yikes).

This response is so, so comically shitty within the context of that tag, oh my god.

[blackheartbiohazards]

"I don't think anyone should be allowed to read or write this because it is disgusting to me" is authoritarian.

[blackheartbiohazards]

"I don't think anyone should be allowed to read or write this because it is disgusting to me" is authoritarian.

[blackheartbiohazards]

"Censorship of some topics in fiction and art is good and I would be happy if it were to be enacted in a way I approved of"

and

"some things should be banned from ever being written or read about in fiction"

are both authoritarian viewpoints to hold and express, even if you don't have the power to enact them.

If you hold these viewpoints you are holding authoritarian viewpoints.

[averageidiotenby]

DUDE IT’S PEDO FICS EVERYBODY THINKS THEY’RE NASTY

[blackheartbiohazards]

Let me explain this to you in simple terms.

Something being nasty is not a good reason to ban fiction about it.

If we accept that "something being nasty is a good reason to bad fiction about it" then we give a foot in the door for all the people who truly, genuinely believe that queer people are nasty to ban all queer literature.

This is not about defending bad people this is about defending the freedom of good people from tyranny, you moron.

[kawaii-pigeon]

I think if you take it to its logical extreme. Say, banning people from writing stories of sexual abuse. That could then be said "well ANY talk about sexual abuse is bad."

And from that, you could ban books that talk about it irl. Or books like how to recover after being abuse. If its not something to be discussed AT ALL.

[plague-of-insomnia]

The fact that I’ve seen this post in some form on my dash like 100x and each time there’s new idiots who do not get that you can’t have *some* censorship.

Either you’re for it or you aren’t.

The moment you agree that something should never, ever exist in fiction is the moment that anything can be banned.

Remember a while back how Tumblr banned a bunch of tags, including many popular innocuous ones that even people who are for censorship used and were upset about?

When censorship happens, stuff YOU like can and will be banned. That’s how it works.

Remember how a bunch of people had their accounts terminated here only last year for writing about their own sexual abuse?

When you ban “pedo” topics, say, any talk of child sexual abuse in any form, that means people can no longer write about their own experiences. It means people cannot educate others so they can learn how to protect themselves or get help from these situations.

Censorship is authoritarian. Full stop.

Even if “everyone” agrees something is “gross” and “shouldn’t exist,” that does not fucking matter.

Do you know who generally believes queer people are gross and shouldn’t exist??

The same people who are banning books left and right solely because they have queer characters or relationships.

The same people who attack and kill queer folk for simply exisiting.

This is not just some fandom matter or a case of being chronically online.

Protecting freedom of expression is essential, and if you do not get that, I don’t know what to say to you.

[scientia-rex]

And the people who keep bringing up child sex abuse as a reason for censorship are doing it very specifically because everyone feels like then they HAVE to agree with the person in favor of censorship.

It’s not that there isn’t widespread societal agreement on this. It’s that they want you backed into a rhetorical corner where you feel compelled to agree with them.

[ruffboi-mags]

Also, like, we KNOW how this shit shakes out in fandom because it's happened before.

In 2007, Livejournal capitulated to the "pedophilia and sex crimes!" cries of (hate group) Warriors 4 Innocence, and you know what communities got shut down? Slashfic communities. Sexual assault survivor support communities. Authors who'd written non-smut m/m fic even got caught up in it. It was DEVASTATING to fandom spaces. I think pretty much everyone knew at least one person whose account was literally DELETED, or were a member of a community that was wiped off the map because they were considerate enough to include topics like "sexual assault" or "BDSM" in the profiles under the badly-named category of "interests" to indicate that posts on said blogs or communities may include discussion of things like that. Even if it was for a SUPPORT group. And it was because a group of religious bigots came to LJ and said essentially "EVERYONE thinks it's gross and that it's promoting CSA, we should ban it."

Like, strikethrough and boldthrough were a large part of what propelled AO3 out of a more unfocused conversation on one person's blog about hosting a site INTENDED for fandom content, into being an actual archive and nonprofit. And it's a large part of why you won't find AO3 banning topics that you find "gross".

Censorship is authoritarian and it will ALWAYS have more collateral damage than you can imagine.

[nyxelestia]

Going to add that fiction which had sexual abuse and communities which played around with it as a writing topic are the very things that protected me from irl sexual abuse when I was a teenager. I was in a dicey situation, and realized that while my situation did not match up to any of the superficial or textbook cases mentioned in passing (if at all) through school, it matched up a LOT to what I'd learned about irl sexual abuse through works of fiction and the rhetoric of my communities. I got out of that situation and dodged what was, in retrospect, one hell of a nasty bullet. If it hadn't been for that "nasty" fiction and those "nasty" communities, I would very likely have been abused, and subject to further violence spiraling out from that abuse.

[benjis-house-boat]

you can’t have *some* censorship.

[the-real-seebs]

Yup! It really is, in fact, pretty much that simple:

"I don't think anyone should be allowed to read or write this because it is disgusting to me" is authoritarian.

[void-with-a-keyboard]

need to use this blog more i swearrr im still here this is just a side blog so i only use it occasionally </3

[eldritchsexual]

your third eye opens the second you start shipping siblings

[k-9teeth]

trying to educate an anti to stop saying cp because it’s simply just not a good term to use and to use csam or csem because it’s not pornography, it is not consensual and never can be and it is exploitative and abusive material, and to most of all stop applying these terms to fictional media such as art and writing and they still say “yeah but it’s still exploitive even if it’s fictional…” to who? who is being exploited and abused here? the drawing? are we serious right now?

[leiflemmon]

DISCORD GROUP: What's "proshipping"?

ME: Ah! I've been a library assistant for 5 years. Surely I can explain this in a reasonable and nuanced, yet concise way!

2 HOURS LATER:

[leiflemmon]

I think the biggest trouble with explaining proshipping is that most everyone IN THEORY is 100% pro-archival and literacy, but IN EXECUTION, each person has a unique "of course THIS is the exception" breaking point that they see others as reprehensible for NOT also having.

Like, here are some VERY COMMON examples of personal breaking points that can come up in archiving:

Trans person whose friend keeps writing Harry Potter fanfic

Parent whose coworker loves drawing shota/lolicon

Uncle going down an anti-vax documentary hole

Mom pushing diet magazines on her daughter

Racist old dudes on school reading lists

True crime Youtube clickbaits

AI-generated Elsagate brainrot shorts

Comic books by a white guy posing as Asian

$2 exploitation porn DVDs

School shooter simulator video game

Guides on making explosives

LiveLeak content

Odds are pretty good that at least one of those made you, reading this, viscerally cringe and want to argue about, WHICH IS WHAT I MEAN. Every person has a breaking point, and THAT'S NORMAL.

The point of the library training isn't to make you into a unique person who has never, ever been reviled by or wanted to destroy a piece of media. It's to learn how to live with that feeling, step back, and work with your team to maintain the archive, anyway.

And sometimes, maintaining means recognizing that not every place IS an archive! I'm only able to maintain an archive space BECAUSE I know I have spaces where the stuff that revolts me is banned! It's okay to curate multiple spaces; tolerance is more than blind acceptance.

The library archives information, the bar should not be allowed to become a Nazi bar. The AO3 tags archive every fic, the Discord group chat isn't made to be a museum. You don't have to take everything home with you at all times to prove yourself.

All you really should do... is support your local libraries with a card and some check-outs! We have movies and audio books and video games and printers now! It's cool!

[pom-pom-cherry]

Any ship can be problematic if you just give me a second-

[writingdose]

this used to be a common knowledge

via AO3Tikli 2022

[internetchan39]

[strawberrychoc0oo]

"proshitters are normalizing the fetishization of the romanticsation of the sexualization of the markiplierzation"

*proceeds to make epstein jokes, diddy jokes, and edp jokes and accuses strangers on the internet who are minors of being predators and compares drawings to real csam/csem of REAL children*