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[walkercatsstuff]

lmao at people saying the supposed screener talking more negatively about s3 than the others is the only one being honest, like large part of this fandom came with a premeditated agenda against s3 and will seek opinions that validate their negativity,his fandom is that absurd, besides that why on earth does a negative opinion have to be more honest than a positive one when opinions are subjective

[walkercatsstuff]

loustat/lestat haters are claiming to have seen the episodes of s3 (obviously a lie) and dropping fake spoilers to anger the fandom before the premire how unexpected !just like their fav

[walkercatsstuff]

It's normal and in character for Louis to act shocked and kinda insensitive about the Lestat/Gabrielle thing since he doesnt have full context and Lestat himself is talking about It in a light way

what is not normal is iwtv fandom victim blaming him instead of the fucking mother , and before we started , i like Gabrielle as a character , i think she's very interesting and nuanced BUT grooming your son it's not the yas girl slay the fandom wants to paint

[walkercatsstuff]

of fucking course iwtv fandom reaction to gabrielle and lestat dynamic and louis reaction is victim blaming and joke

It doesnt matter at all if you dont like Lestat as a character theres real people victims of incest that are reading y'all trash takes , people should think before saying certain things

[walkercatsstuff]

fascinated by people who think Kate would scold Anthony for his conversation with Benedict in s4,like maybe she'd express it more gently but she'd be 100% on Anthony's side in this idk what to tell y'all people

[darklinaforever]

It's always sooooo funny to me whenever Kanthony are "accused" of just lust considering that they are, by far, the couple with the least sex scenes on the entire show, counting all seasons and the spin-off. They literally only have fade-to-black and hints of oral sex 💀. The thing is that both Jonathan and Simone exude very natural sexual chemistry and that throws people off.

But that's it. They're literally the couple with the fewest sex scenes in the entire show. And yet, they're literally the sexiest couple. Because being sexy isn't necessarily about explicit sex. Personally, I find all of Kanthony's short sex scenes much sexier and hotter than the explicit sex scenes the other couples have had. And even the scenes where the characters just circle each other, like in 2x04 and 2x05, are much sexier than those very explicit sex scenes the other couples have had. And even when Kanthony did have sex scenes, they were either shorter than the other couples' scenes or only suggested. In 2x07, we get passionate kisses and the suggestion of oral sex, with more detailed flashback images of Kate feeling guilty and frantic. And in 2x08, we get the end of a sex scene (with obvious penetration) with Kanthony in the final minutes of the show. And in season 3, we again have the suggestion of oral sex with Anthony under the covers between Kate's legs and after the suggestion of the sex scene on a desk with a fade to black. Literally, Kanthony has very few sex scenes, and when they do appear, they're never really explicit. In my opinion, that's what contributed to making this couple sexier than others. And then there's the yearning too. That was iconic as well. It makes me laugh when I see people say that these two are just about lust. For that, there's literally Anthony with Siena or Simon & Daphne...

[walkercatsstuff]

maybe i could loved benophie more if the cinderella history was not the most overused trope in history

[walkercatsstuff]

kanthony angst and chemistry is unbestable i'm sorry i fear only franchaela can destronate them

[waxwork-daughter]

I think Scully aids and abets Mulder's anti hospital bias any time possible at all, because she can barely stand the idea of Other Doctors looking after him and touching him and possibly not going to the extraordinary length she does and not being the one soothing and healing him. So she does just. Keep him to herself if she can avoid other doctors without seriously risking his health.

After all, she was the one who saved him with experimental treatment at that arctic base after he was exposed to the oil virus in End Game. And she was the one who drove him across the county and rehabilitated him from the LSD dosing and the gunshot wound (that she inflicted of course. And he thanked her). She was probably the one who got him through the memory drug dosing in only the second episode. She probably micromanaged his care after the broken leg in Fallen Angel and the shooting in Beyond the Sea (especially that, immediately after she identified him as her replacement Ahab.)

She's probably a nightmare to any hospital staff, which I'm sure Mulder finds extremely entertaining. I also think he is largely indifferent to his own physical discomfort but can't get enough of Scully looking after him because it's one of the only times they allow themselves to show tenderness and intimacy (one of the other times is when she's hurt or ill and not pushing him away). He also hates hospitals and Other Doctors so it's very handy to be able to 'suggest' to Scully that she should take him away to look after him as soon as safely possible.

Complex intimacy rituals in action 😵‍💫

[walkercatsstuff]

fandom Scully so fucking perfect,boring and bland i almost forget how genuinely fascinating she is , i'm living this rewatch so much

[future-fangirl]

Dear MSR fic writers, Please stop having Mulder pray, believe in God or go to church. He doesn’t believe in it and even if he did believe in it, he wouldn’t be worshipping Jesus.

[waxwork-daughter]

this.

they say 'representation matters' but erasing one of the only genuine atheist, jewish coded characters in mainstream media is a default position, apparently. It happens in 95% of fics, even in fics that i otherwise loved and adored.... and is essentially the main reason i stopped reading txf fic (beyond known safe friends).

The pieces of 'when Mulder is Good and Open and Fair and Loves Scully Enough he accepts the Christian God and acquires reverence for her Church, and that's part of why he's Good and not "sexist"/"mean" now' subtext that authors don't even seem to realize they're baking in, that I kept tripping over every 3rd or so fic started to add up to a hostile, unwelcome feeling as a 'jew coded' atheist just trying to enjoy romantic fiction.

[walkercatsstuff]

sometimes i forget how much Scully centered accounts HATE Mulder and then bam you follow one and you have 3000 threats about how he is a a selfish asshole who apparently abuses and mistreats Scully continuously, oh! and also a sociopath

he's far from perfect but I wonder what kind of show they're watching to have such a simplistic view of him like come on

[walkercatsstuff]

hate, HATE the obsession that Chris Carter (and part of the fandom with him) has with showing Mulder's atheism as something bad or as something he needs to be rehabilitated from, there is always that underlying tone of "no no no he pretends to not believe because he is hurt for his sister but in the end he believes just watch" like i fear it's a very unpopular opinion but CC's obsession with religion damaged the mytarc a lot

[waxwork-daughter]

this. the thing is when i was in the fandom several years ago, there was plenty of drama and discourse -- the prevailing attitudes from certain popular bloggers at the time about mulder's depression in the revival (ie that it was funny and deserved and that scully shouldn't go back) was what made me step away back then -- but mulder being an atheist and a non-christian was a non issue. most people doing mulder meta and writing fic etc actually liked and admired him for being brave enough to believe what he'd seen and felt and not in the sets of beliefs and disbeliefs that are socially popular.

But now there's a huge amount of pressure from what feels like a loud majority of the fandom to engage with the idea that the only morally correct way to like mulder and be an 'appologist' for him is to either believe that he's Secretly Christian Underneath and is just too traumatized to admit it, or that you have to constantly condemn his atheism and non-christianity. Also there's this weird layer of like, because CC got all hooked into his Scully-Madonna complex in the later mytharc, and because Scully had her (dubious and alarming) "religous episodes" as some of her main solo themes, many people see it as basically misogynist of mulder to not believe in the christian god.

Meanwhile the man is textually Jewish coded, confirmed Jewish in the marginalia and played by a Jew-by-Descent (who seems to have his own complicated beliefs and spirituality, but i mean the whole born into the tribe but assimilated thing does put you in a confusing place) and textually believes in some level of theism or animism, just not the christian god specifically. His beliefs aren't actually inconsistent, they're guided by his experieces while leaving the door open to spirituality. What he has a problem with is universal, proselytizing religions (as opposed to ethno-cultural religions) and grift that takes advantage of vulnerable people. mulder also turned on the UFO people, denouncing them as grifters and marks when he thought the whole thing was a hoax, which again, consistent belief system. But it's like almost no one is willing to listen past him refusing chistianity to understand what he's saying, it's just "mulder is mean, mulder is closed minded, mulder is sexist and insensitive to godly [woman] feelings.' I've even seen some posts about how mulder would be more likable if he'd "hear her out" about catholicism, and way too many fics where once they're together, there's a scene where, to paraphrase, scully's like "come to church with me" and mulder's like "oh i can't go in there with my blasephemous nature but you go pray for me i probably need it," as if it's a forgone conclusion that she's Right about christianity and once they have sex he will Of Course acknowledge that even though he's still stubborn and Unworthy... No, actually! Mulder is already morally and spiritually complete as a Non Christian. Non christians don't need to convert or "admit" that "the bible" or christians "might have a point" or "might be the real truth" (that was another post i saw, that One Breath/scully was telling mulder via scully's headstone -- that she didn't need! -- was telling mulder that the real Truth he'd been searching for was Faith [in the christian god]) to be a good person or to be fulfilled or to like them without requiring disclaimers.

And you're right that the obsession gets into the mytharc too, which is frustrating and fuels the rest of it. It's disappointing, too, because i do actually find the mytharc interesting and parts of it are really involving, and contrary to popular belief it did make a *kind* of sense that worked by a fairly consistent science fantasy logic. But then CC got obsessed with this mystical christianity tangent, and it didn't lead anywhere feasible on television so he had to back out of it, and then there was just. well, the less said about season 9 the better lol. And i even readily admit that the scifi gnostic christlike mulder spiritual battle for earth thing would have been an interesting story if he'd had the time and technology and the endgame in mind to go for it, and if the show hadn't been long established as more "normal" scifi paranormal horror... like, it would make a good novel series. In the context of the existing tv show however, not so much. And then it just feeds into the popular fanon idea that mulder is just stupid and backwards and wrong about everything :/

[walkercatsstuff]

Imo Mulder's behavior towards Scully in the religious episodes is basically an extremely religious person's way (Chris Carter) of portraying the behavior of an atheist; he wants to show Mulder as rude, insensitive and narrow-minded, because of course someone who doesn't see the world through the word of the Christian religion is like that

[walkercatsstuff]

hate, HATE the obsession that Chris Carter (and part of the fandom with him) has with showing Mulder's atheism as something bad or as something he needs to be rehabilitated from, there is always that underlying tone of "no no no he pretends to not believe because he is hurt for his sister but in the end he believes just watch" like i fear it's a very unpopular opinion but CC's obsession with religion damaged the mytarc a lot

[walkercatsstuff]

not a single week without some post of txf fandom obsessed with converting or redeeming Mulder from his atheism: "what if he turns out to be a believer?" "What if he learns to believe?" "He'll believe in divine powers because of Scully" "he believes in aliens but not in god that doesnt make sense" shut the fuck up

[tinfish]

I think my biggest grievance with Mulder is how much he dismisses the concept of God. He will believe in anything but divine intervention and it makes me particularly angry that he is so mocking towards it when Scully is religious. When he mocks religion he also mocks her while this is one point of her that believes and is open to a non scientific view. It also upsets me because is something she obviously grapples with.

I know it’s to flip the dynamics but does Mulder have to be so fucking callous about it?

The man believes in wicka and not the possibility of God. I’m not saying he has to believe in God in a Catholic or traditional sense but I think the fact that he will sight demons or possession and other religions as a place of research and possibly is frustrating.

Personally I think it would be nicer if he was more open to heavenly powers and this was a point where him and Scully could agree and build connection, instead of one of the few places he repeatedly questions judgement

[duchovnys-teacup]

I'm going to eat him. /affectionate