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THEMMMM......
Oaky, so I watched and rewatched and rewatched some again s2 episode 13 of hannibal.. And guys, the last 15 minutes of that episode is puuure cinema, like it's so beautiful, so heartbreaking.
Also, ngl, when will said "you were supposed to leave" and then turns around.. I don't know why tf I thought we were gonna have some sweet moment, although it was sweet in a way😭.. I was like.. Awww he's so in love... STABBB
My jaw was on the floor, my soul had left my body, my heart was broken and lying in a fucking ditch.
Why do I always decide to watch these kinda shows.. Why can't I watch something normal like.. Idk off campus or something 😭😭
So about free will, oppressive systems, and the ending of Good Omens 3...
OK let's talk thematics.
Because one of the reasons Good Omens resonated with so many of us is that Crowley and Aziraphale were like us, people who've been traumatized by oppressive systems that forced us into corners and destroyed our sense of self, ability to love, our free will, everything about us.
Good Omens taught us that we can find healing and bravery to overcome that trauma by bonding with other traumatized souls and DEFYING those systems of oppression.
Adam in GO1 wanted to destroy the world to remake it better, but that's not an option for us, is it? We can't eliminate homophobia or transphobia, we can't eliminate the abusers in our lives, we can't eliminate corporations that pollute our environment and we can't eliminate religious institutions or political corruption or fascism or racism and every other awful thing out there.
But we CAN take their power away from controlling us, by banding together and declaring NO. YOU will not define me. That is what Aziraphale and Crowley represent.
As angels and demons, they represent revolting against the systems that birthed them and telling those systems that they REJECT the identity foisted upon them.
That is why Good Omens 3 doesn't make sense thematically. Because it takes this metaphor and says instead that the only solution is to eliminate the entire system and start again. Something that is virtually impossible to do without mass destruction on a global scale (for example, an extinction event that takes us back to before civilization and the patriarchy began). This is exactly what Adam thought:
Adam: “We'll get rid of everything stupid and start all over again.”
But Good Omens 1 tells us that this thinking is wrong. It is wrong to nuke the world to forge a better one, because individual lives matter and we can try to fix it.
Brian: “You're going to burn all this away. Why? Because some adults mucked things up? That's a reason to fix it, not destroy it.”
Good Omens was always optimistic about how, despite the fact that humans can destroy the world, we can also make it better.
Everyone in Good Omens 1 made choices, created their own free will, by defying god. Not eliminating god. Defying god. Adam, by rejecting his birth and parentage. Anathema, by rejecting her inherited role. Crowley and Aziraphale, by choosing to love one another (and what a queer metaphor that is, to choose to love as your form of rebellion 🏳️🌈).
This works beautifully as a metaphor because we in the real world can also choose to make our own free will, despite the oppressive systems we live under. Even if it's difficult, even if maybe we need therapy and support to do so, we can choose to reject the abusive systems in our lives and forge our own identities outside of them.
So when Good Omens 3 comes along saying the only solution is to remake the world entirely because apparently there is no hope under ANY oppressive system?? It's basically a pessimistic outlook. It's saying, no matter how much support and love we find, we will never have freedom from those abusive systems. (and maybe that's true on a social level, but on an individual level?)
Saying the only solution is to remake the world entirely removes the power WE have to do something within the broken systems we live under.
I get how Good Omens 3 works (sorta) from an atheistic perspective, and I fully believe it's the ending Terry would have wanted, but it just does not work from a Good Omens (or a realistic) perspective.
About the atheistic POV, just to say briefly: Does removing god actually fix all the problems in the world? Well, Good Omens already told us that humans are the primary drivers of evil. So god wasn't even responsible for that. And plus, it is humans who created god, and what we imagine god wants, and why we fight religious wars.
It's not god's existence that ruins society, it's the idea of god, and that's all humanity's creation.
So, no, eliminating god does not create a perfect world.
But!! Having free will to defy the oppressive systems that will invariably plague humanity is how you find freedom. Not a perfect world but free will, and the ability to act on it, is still how you define Who you are, that is how you defeat everything society wants you to be, how you CHOOSE who YOU want to be.
That is why Good Omens is so inspiring, because it speaks to all of us who feel oppressed and traumatized. It tells us there is hope despite what happened (and is happening) to us.
Good Omens 3 does not share that theme though, and that to me is the primary reason I can't get behind the ending.
Guys, I'm watching hannibal for the first time after putting it on my watchlist for soo long. Anyways, why tf wasn't I aware I was gonna see gillian fucking Anderson in it😍😍😍
Anyways, back to my main point, are Will's and Hannibal's interactions actually so like charged or I'm just imagining things at this point. If anyone could tell me, would be much appreciated. Btw, I'm on s1 rn.
We're getting more princess and her hair flips
What is it with these gays and their sad little benches.. Get them away from these things, please😭
"you already left kudos here"
And??? Let me like it again??? Clearly it deserves more??
Seriously, what is going on with writers and creators these days, like why are they so intent on ruining their own shows in the last fucking season. Like do y'all hate your own show that fucking much.
i'm a proud hater of the 'jonathan byers hates mike' agenda
the best by conan gray coming out on the same day that noah said mike would have explored his feelings if will confessed to him,,,, hahaha
i cannot rn with ppl in the byler tag being like "uhm noah saying that doesn't mean byler is canon"
like the actor who has acted opposite finn wolfhard for years, the other half of the byler ship, the one who has closely seen finn's interpretation of the character of mike wheeler beyond our limited scope as an audience has said "Mike would've explored". girl yes i believe him and he's fucking right.
dont forget the cutest couple that never was burger and the we were all rooting for it fries and the we didn't close this storyline well enough salad and the brand new exclusive mike would have explored milkshake
i have finally come out of hiding 2 months after that traumatic finale. Because "Mike would've explored".... are you fucking kidding me. we just keep on winning people. No one can take epilogue byler away from me.
Will and max dancing together at prom…oh my madwise
regarding all the comments about how snl was poking fun at the writing of the coming out scene, not will himself. "they're making fun of how long the scene was." like okay, the scene being too long as a criticism... how long should it have been? 2 minutes? 1 minute? ofc homophobes are going to claim it was too long, bc they wanted it to be as short and take up as little of their 80s nostalgic show as possible, not bc they had legitimate reason to think the scene was too long.
i need people to get a clue, stand up, and realize when people are being cruel and laughing at them, not with them.
the snl jokes about vaginas looking like a demogorgan, about having sex with max who is just laying there as if in a coma, and about will's coming out: they are not laughing with women and queer people. they are laughing at women and queer people. stop making it easier for them. stop excusing it and insisting that we're in on it.
Comedy is a very tricky genre.
If you want to do it right, you have to be very careful with wording and with choosing the object of the joke.
And if you decide to make fun of marginalized communities and/or groups of people who have been historically oppressed, you’ve already failed, in my opinion.
I watched that SNL episode and was disappointed once again. The crude jokes, the insensitivity, and the overall tone-deaf rhetoric made me super uncomfortable while watching.
Here’s a video by one of my favorite ST TikTokers that delves more deeply into what simply wasn’t okay:
I encourage you to give her a like if you’re on TikTok! I think it’s especially important to come together and support each other when others try to weaponize humor against us.