[wintercarnage]

⎯ 𝓚at. ⠀⠀ׄ ֪⠀ 𖣂 seventeen .ᐟ.ᐟ

frank langdon and trinity santos apologist. overly enthusiastic shipper. what happens if you put james ogilvie and trinity santos together in one body. really into superheroes. daddy issues galore. jack abbot is rahhh. writer girl. cat lover.

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[wintercarnage]

happy pride to everyone who hasnt accepted themselves yet. you deserve sunshine

[wintercarnage]

what the fuck is this new fuckass pinterest update

[oh3mgeealexx]

yes I ship hucklerobby yes I ship huckleabbot yes I ship hucklerabbot yes I ship langtaker yes I ship popewhit WE EXIST 😭😭😭

[notholaenas]

"i'm sorry about him too"

[tinyhomunculusutopia]

been over my Langtaker phase for a while now but the concept of both of them having been through toxic secret relationships with Robby and bonding over their shared experiences is so delicious and it still makes me go crazy

[berryteaboop]

[batrachised]

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[wintercarnage]

LOVING the ecosia updates. big fan of the website bar staying there when you scroll

[katskipz16]

by the way I hope you guys know I am in fact Ogilvie’s #1 (and only) fan. I love James Ogilvie I love that autistic man. Idc if he’s evil I love that guy

i just think he needs a mentor like Cassie was in this episode, being on the street team would be great for him.

[life-is-arrowing]

"oh i want more complex characters" y'all can't handle seeing james ogilvie for two seconds on screen without posting about how you want to see him dead. be so fucking for real

not to mention all the people on pitt threads and pittblr who are like "he's an asshole, he's not autistic." y'all realize two things can be true at once right? like he can be an arrogant, priveleged white man and also an autistic man who clearly struggles with social interactions. there can be nuance and there is nuance.

also just because mel is the canon autistic character doesn't mean the pitt writers can't have other neurodivergent characters (you could probably make an argument that everyone on the pitt is neurodivergent). and he's not "bad autism representation." there are a lot of people (myself included) who see themselves in him. and frankly a lot of you are showing your ableism. you prop up mel and her autistic traits while also infantilizing the shit out of her. she's not some "soft uwu baby." she's complex and extremely competent (and she absolutely has the wherewithal to be in a relationship with langdon but I digress). and just because she's better at expressing empathy than ogilvie doesn't mean he can't be autistic (there's a reason why it's called the autism SPECTRUM). this is not a problem i have with her. the pitt writers did a great job with her character. the pitt writers have also done a great job with ogilvie's character. he's not that much different from santos last season or even javadi (something the show does acknowledge a lot). he does have flaws (as do all the characters). he's brash, cocky, emotionally detached, and a knowitall, but he's not malicious like all of y'all seem to want him to be. at times reading posts it feels like we're not even watching the same show. idk where y'all got that he's misogynistic or sadistic or that he would purposefully spew medical inaccuracies on reddit (yes, that's a real post. no, it's not in character at all ). and you can tell he's not as malicious as y'all want him to be because of the way he reacts when he's directly confronted with something that challenges his perceptions. he's visibly shaken when he was listening to robby's monologue about louie (honestly the fact that he showed up at all when it was optional and he didn't know the guy like the rest of the staff did speaks volumes that y'all don't want to hear) and he does stop with the weight comments after mckay tells him directly to stop. and like i don't really think that his explanations of his reasons why he made those comments was him backtracking or like weaponized incompetence. like it does seem like he genuinely wanted to help but didn't realize that it was an inappropriate time, place, and phrasing (which, dare i say, is quite autistic of him). and before you misconstrue what i'm saying, i'm not trying to excuse the things that he said that were shitty (the "he croaked" line, the "i wonder why" line about howard, or the talking over specifically joy). there should be accountability taken. my point is that there is room for nuance.

honestly with some of the stuff y'all say about ogilvie it makes me worried about how you'd treat actual autistic people (again, like myself) that act like that in real life 🫩

[the-gregster]

james ogilvie my beautiful autistic dickhead

[th4nky0uf0rth3ven0m]

episode 8 has SOLIDIFIED the autistic ogilvie headcanon in my mind. accidentally coming off as a jerk when he had positive intentions? asking insensitive questions because he doesn’t realise they’re insensitive? wanting clarification but making himself look rude in the process? this sounds like you are describing a day in my life. dude, i could swear on everything i love that he means well but doesn’t know how to communicate in a way that makes that clear to the allistic people around him. anyone who doesn’t see how autistic-coded he is by this point is either not paying attention or looking for the wrong things. he doesn’t exhibit signs of autism the way that our other autistic character, mel, does because it’s a spectrum! everyone experiences autism differently. ogilvie is autistic in a way that people usually do not like, in characters or in real people. those kinds of people are the ones that say that they would never hate someone for having autism but then go on to hate someone for having the symptoms that autism causes. autism can, in fact, make you blunt, overeager, condescending, awkward, and unempathetic. that part of it doesn’t not exist just because you or the autistic people you know don’t experience it that way. if you’re criticising ogilvie, fine, but at least take a moment to try to understand his character. if you can’t do that, why are you watching a show with notoriously nuanced characters?

[wintercarnage]

mourning the long hair i had before i chopped it off progressively because i was depressed

[wintercarnage]

autistic james ogilvie….yeah….

[wintercarnage]

you know what? i LIKE ogilvie. i LIKE that he’s a little insensitive because he doesn’t know how to communicate with people. i LIKE that he’s a “show-off” because he’s desperate to be the smartest because he probably always has been. i LIKE that he doesn’t know how to respond in emotional situations. i LIKE that his own emotional hurt overpowers him. i like that, really, he’s kind of just like me.

[wintercarnage]

you never do forget your first love