I’m compelled to remind you, once again, that Laurent pet the dogs at Chastillon.
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I’m compelled to remind you, once again, that Laurent pet the dogs at Chastillon.
I love that the one thing the entire CaPri fandom can agree on is that Damen and Laurent are turning Nikandros’ hair grey.
TFW you realize that the sex-drenched culture of the Arles court was 100% the Regent’s creation.
Prince’s Gambit, chapter 6:
Pet, chapter 2:
I feel like most of the Auguste Lives AU fanfics out there, not to mention the ones set while Aleron is still alive, present the Arles court as the same debauched environment we’re shown in the original Captive Prince novels—with pets, performances, and the rest. It seems that a lot of readers walked away from the books with the impression that this sort of debauchery is just inherent to Veretian society.
But the books give us clues that this is not actually the case, but rather that pet culture is actually relatively new to Arles. The two passages above indicate that Aleron and Auguste (and eventually Laurent) would have run things quite differently. This atmosphere was the Regent’s influence, rather than a preference inherent to all Veretians.
I mostly just want to be protective of precious angel Auguste and his legacy, but ALSO I feel like we can draw certain conclusions about the Regent from this information:
1. He created a Court in which indulging in your vices was both accepted and encouraged.
2. He normalized a system in which the powerful could take advantage of the less-powerful, for pleasure, in plain sight.
3. It’s likely that his Regent’s Party Palace was a device meant to lure Veretian nobles with the promise of a good time—thereby getting them close enough to start forming alliances that he needed to secure his position after Aleron and Auguste died.
4. He likely knew that in a Court known for debauchery, his own seedier vices wouldn’t attract the same level of notice or condemnation.
So, in conclusion: The Regent = still garbage.
(Reposting this after I edited it for structure & clarity.)
the laws of cheese club are sacrosanct
more sacrosanct than those of the kingsmeet apparently
since damen actually upholds cheese club rules
Will always, always reblog this. It’s perfect.
Hi there Captive Prince fandom, hope you’re doing well. I just have a quick question: What line in the series always gets you? Either wrenches your heart or sticks in your head indefinitely.
“…uncertain of what lay on the other side of this moment, and wanting to be worthy of it.”
I love the depth of Damen’s feelings for Laurent shown here. There are several moments throughout Prince’s Gambit that hint at Damen’s sensitivity, but I don’t think we feel the full force of it until chapter 19.
There was such a long build up to this love scene that I think many of us expected it to be fast and forceful—filled with passion. But instead Damen shows tenderness, uncertainty and restraint. It’s the consummation we didn’t know we truly needed with these two.
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@lamenweek Lamen Week 2021, Day 2: Folklore & Mythology
King Damianos rules the Artesian empire with an iron fist. That was not how it had been from the beginning. He has lost himself entirely. He might not deserve it, but he needs to be shown the way back.
Gosh I love this so much. Even though it’s hard to accept my precious angel Damen as a harsh figure, the characterization is believable here. Such a clever AU.
I love that the one thing the entire CaPri fandom can agree on is that Damen and Laurent are turning Nikandros’ hair grey.
I think the biggest problem for Nikandros is that he thought Damen was the same man he was before Vere.
He thought Damen was naive and didn't see the flaws and problems with Laurent and that it was his duty to warn him, again, like he did with Jokaste. And oh boy how hard he's gonna try this time because see what happened the last time you didn't listen to me ?!?!
But then he is baffled and doesn't know how to react because Damen is completely aware of what Laurent is, what he can do, and his flaws and methods. And he accepts them and love Laurent as it is.
So there is poor Nik who is in the middle of it, seeing Damen suffer because of Laurent and tries to warn Damen to no end and end up having to just watch feeling like he's gonna regret that so much later...
God this is such an important observation. It’s not just that Nik is overprotective and biased against Veretians—even though both of those things are true. It’s that Nik has missed out on a transformative chapter in Damen’s life and hasn’t had enough time to ascertain how Damen has been changed.
TFW you realize that yes, Laurent loves his horses, but also that Laurent is suffering because this incident likely triggers the memory of his Uncle poisoning his horse—Auguste’s horse—before the hunt in CP. And Damen knows it.
My headcanon is that this is the moment Damen decided to let Makon go to face his murderous, money-hungry Patran slave traders with empty wagons and not bother letting the law handle him.
No big deal, just Wikipedia offering a punch in the feels.
I’ve been thinking about how it’s not really Laurent who’s responsible for portraying Auguste as a golden hero who could do no wrong. It’s actually mostly the regent, and the rest of the Veretian court following his example. It’s also Damen through his power as narrator.
Damen is the first character to describe Auguste. He introduces him as a noble warrior of indomitable spirit, a beacon of strength in the chaos of Marlas. An honorable man. A worthy foe. Even six years later, the impact he had on Damen is clear, and it’s also clear Damen respected him enormously.
Then throughout book 1, the regent and the court constantly hold up Auguste as a foil to Laurent’s shortcomings. Auguste was willing to serve his country as a soldier while Laurent is a coward who weasels out of border duty. Auguste was a true leader while Laurent just seduces and manipulates people. Auguste had honor, Laurent has none. This even goes on for more day-to-day events: the regent makes a point of reminding everyone that Auguste was actually good at hunting while Laurent has won only by killing a horse, and a random groom echoes his sentiments, telling Damen that Auguste tamed horses while Laurent kills them.
By the end of book 1, it was so well established that the world thought Auguste was the perfect warrior, perfect prince, perfect man, that I suspected that there would be a plot twist in book 2 that he was secretly evil or something. But at this point, Laurent has only mentioned Auguste indirectly, to say that he hasn’t believed in Akielon honor since Damianos killed his brother.
For all that Paschal says Laurent had hero-worshipped Auguste, we get a more human, less hero-worshippy picture of Auguste from Laurent than we do from any other character. Most of the time, when Laurent mentions Auguste, it’s to tell anecdotes of things Auguste said to Laurent or did with him–ordinary stories that suggest nothing more than that Auguste was a good brother. Laurent tells Damen that Auguste had no gift for practicing or recognizing deception, which in modern terms seems like a polite way of saying Auguste was a bit naive, and in Veretian terms might straight up mean Auguste was bad at politics. And he tells him Auguste preferred women, also not a trait valued in Veretian men.
This is significant, because it makes it far more striking when Laurent does make sweeping statements about Auguste’s greatness. It’s not that Laurent in general has an Auguste-shaped blind spot in his ability to judge character–instead, he’s talking about Auguste like that for a situation-specific reason.
The two times I can think of when Laurent sounds more like he’s talking about Auguste as a hero rather than Auguste as a regular person are in his sword fight with Damen in Kings Rising, when he nonsensically insists Auguste would have beat Damen in a duel; and in Prince’s Gambit, when he calls Auguste the best man he ever knew.
Laurent calls his brother the best man he ever knew and tells Damen he reminds him of him, and the fact that he always speaks of Auguste in down-to-earth terms makes the compliment more personal, more meaningful. There are similarities between Damen and Auguste readily apparent to anyone who knew the two men only slightly, or only by reputation. Both are great warriors, both are natural leaders, both are brave and loyal to their countries. But Laurent isn’t just saying Damen is like Auguste, the best man he ever knew, because Damen is a brave and honorable warrior. That’s not how Laurent talks about Auguste. No, Auguste is the best man Laurent ever knew because of who he was with his family, with the people he cared about, and Damen reminds him of that Auguste as well.
In terms of the sword fight, I think it makes the scene all the more heartbreaking. Throughout the trilogy, we hear again and again how good a fighter Auguste was. Laurent does this too, but not nearly to the same level. Laurent says he was not a fighter, like Auguste was, but it’s more a contrast of his and Auguste’s motivation to train than it is commentary on Auguste’s skill. Jord tells Damen you only need to be half as good as Auguste to be ten times as good as anyone else. In contrast, when Laurent explains he knew he would have to be very good to beat Damen, he doesn’t just say ‘because Damianos beat my brother,’ as Jord might have. He says it’s because Damianos was known to be the best fighter in Akielos and beat a large number of the best Veretian fighters.
From anyone else, Laurent’s insistence that Auguste was better, good enough to beat Damen might sound like disbelief that anyone could beat Auguste because Auguste was so impossibly talented. From Laurent, who doesn’t belabor his brother’s skill, it sounds like simple refusal Damen could beat Auguste because that would mean Auguste would die, and there’s a part of him that still can’t accept the world would let that happen.
can we talk about paschal for a minute i feel like we never do
ok I got thinking about Paschal when I started seeing a lot of similarities between him and Laurent
when he talks to Damen about Laurent’s relationship with Auguste in prince’s gambit he says
“’Auguste was straight forward: a champion, the heir, born to rule. You can imagine how Laurent felt about him’
‘He resented him,’ said Damen
Paschal gave him a strange look. ‘No, he loved him. He hero worshipped him, the way that intellectual boys sometimes do, with older boys who excel physically. It went both ways with those two. They were devoted to one another. Auguste was the protector. He would do anything for his brother’”
lets take a step back. Paschal is a physician, a good one too. He served Auguste and Laurent and is held in high enough esteem to not be left behind in Arles, but taken along with Laurent for “border duty”. His brother was a solider, and to be in the royal army he also had to be pretty good. So good that the Regent knew he would be close enough to the King to kill him. This probably means that Paschal’s family was pretty well off, if they were able to send Paschal to school to be a physician and for his brother to be able to train an become very skilled solider. So one brother excelled enough in school to be the royal physician, and one to be in the royal army.
One brother was smart and one was athletic.
Sound familiar?
Paschal tells Damen that Laurent hero-worshipped Auguste because that how he felt about his brother. Paschal knew how Auguste and Laurent felt about each other, how much they would do for each other, because he knows first hand. He also knows first hand how it feels to lose that brother. To lose the brother you looked up to your whole life.
Except Paschal has to live with his brother being the one to kill the King. The brother (if I remember right) was to be paid to kill the King. Does Paschal know that his brother most likely killed the king for Paschal? To help out his brother, at all costs.
(Another note, why would Auguste decide to go to single combat with Damen, who he probably knows is a better fighter. Is it because Auguste saw that they were losing, and did not want the line to be pushed further back to where only 13 year old Laurent was? Did he do it to end the battle as fast as possible so Laurent wouldn’t get hurt? again: “Auguste was the protector. He would do anything for his brother”)
So yes, Paschal most likely decided to work for Laurent over the Regent because he knew the plot the Regent had set up. He has the evidence and is smart enough to not get involved. But it wasn’t just that. Paschal decided to work for Laurent because he knew exactly what it was like to lose the person you loved the most. He decided to work for Laurent because he is basically what Laurent would be if Laurent was not royalty.
i am destroyed HONESTLY HOW DARE YOU
me: maybe tomorrow Damen and Laurent won't be the first thing i think of
me, waking up with a gasp: LAURENT KNEW WHO DAMEN WAS WHEN HE TOLD HIM HE REMINDED HIM OF AUGUSTE WHO WAS THE BEST MAN HE EVER KNEW
Another Capri alignment chart because why the hell not. Can you guess which one of these made me weep openly?
i think it can be either way, and you can have different languages for giving and receiving. i think Laurent's giving language is acts of service and receiving is physical touch, which makes it so much sadder that touch was weaponized against him. he craves it, but he's been taught to fear and mistrust it.
ugh motherfuck I view it exactly the same and im depressed about it
19.5 breaks my damn heart. Laurent experiencing receiving love for the first time in a way that doesn’t hurt, and he immediately responds with service -- bringing Damen a drink -- because actions speak louder than words for him and that’s how he showcases his burgeoning affection in return.
Yes and ALSO: Think of all the times before chapter 19 that Damen touched Laurent gently — massaging his sore shoulder, lightly touching his bruised cheek, stepping in a little too close when he helped him out of his jacket — and Laurent reacted with extreme tension, clearly bracing for a fight. Taken on their own, these instances read as if Laurent is just generally mistrustful of Damen. But once you put them in the context of Laurent’s trauma and the rest of his story — how he admits to being afraid of what was happening between them, how he “leans into every touch as if starved for it” — it becomes clear that Laurent is fighting an internal battle between his need for contact and his learned mistrust of it.
Love the implication that other countries have to choose their Veretian delegates based on who is least likely to fall for Laurent. It took him one (1) day to talk Torveld into giving him an army so really they're right to be concerned
Imagine if he and Damen met while Damen was supposed to be there for trade negotiations. Akielos would be needing a new representative very quickly
Torveld’s advisors warning him against being distracted by beautiful, young Laurent
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Damen ordering Jokaste to be guarded only by soldiers that aren’t into women
S A M E E N E R G Y
OK but I’m dying for a ficlet of Damen trying—and failing—to talk Laurent out of this caper.