Responding to COVID Cult Talking Points
āAll/most of the people in the hospital with COVID are unvaccinated.ā
- Hospitalizations are still very low compared to what they were in spring of last year. The real question is what percent of unvaccinated people who test positive for COVID are hospitalized (notice how they donāt push those numbers)
- Hospitalizations are defined differently in different places. In some cases, āhospitalizedā means āwent to the hospital to receive care,ā and doesnāt even necessarily mean theyāre staying overnight. They may have simply been held for a little while for observation and then sent home with medication or vitamins.
- Many of the people who have been told by their doctors not to get the vaccine because of their medical history are also vulnerable to COVID because of that same medical history. Thatās why itās important for doctors and patients to get real data and factual information about available treatments and therapeutics, including medications that can be used off-label.
āHospitals/ICUs are nearing/at/over capacity.ā
- Hospitals want to be near capacity at all times. Itās how they make profit. If they are truly overwhelmed, they will cancel elective procedures. Check to see if theyāre doing that before you panic.
- Hospital capacity is not just the physical space or number of physical beds. The number of āavailable bedsā is also dependent on staff availability. Our economy is experiencing a labor shortage, there was a nursing shortage before COVID, and many hospitals have suspended or fired doctors, nurses, and other staff for refusing to get the vaccine. Less staff = fewer available beds, which is why a hospital can be mostly empty and still be āover capacity.ā
āThereās no evidence that the vaccine has long-term side effects.ā
- Of course thereās no evidence, because it hasnāt been ālong termā yet. Impacts on cancer, fertility, and other health issues wonāt be seen for years, because it takes years for those problems to develop.
- For instance, an OB/Gyn wonāt even consider a patient to have fertility problems unless sheās been trying to get pregnant for over 6 months without success. Most people havenāt even been vaccinated for 6 months, much less actively trying to get pregnant and seeing an OB about it. Studies are currently being done on whether the mRNA vaccine has an impact on ovarian reserve, with data expected early next year.
āUnvaccinated people are responsible for the Delta Variantā
- We know that vaccinated people can contract, carry, and transmit COVID.
- Vaccinated people are more likely to be asymptomatic, and therefore not know they have COVID and potentially spread it without realizing.
āGetting the vaccine reduces your risk of getting COVID.ā
- Vaccinated people are less likely to get tested if they donāt have symptoms, since many places that require negative tests for unvaccinated people donāt require those tests for vaccinated people. That means unvaccinated people are getting tested more often, and will be overrepresented in case data.
- The case study cited by the CDC when they changed their mask guidance had data showing that the percentage of cases in vaccinated people was proportionate to the vaccination rate of the area. That suggests that protection against infection may not be as high as people thought.
- The effectiveness data for the vaccines is the effectiveness at preventing severe illness, not preventing transmission or infection. The initial studies done before the vaccines got emergency use authorization were not designed to measure whether the vaccine prevents transmission or infection.
āThis person had a severe reaction to COVID or has ālong COVID.āā
- We definitely need more research on therapeutics and other treatments to be able to help those who had a hard time with this virus.
- Individual stories do not translate to general risk. Keep data in mind and look at severe illness/death rates for your demographic.
- I can tell you stories of people I know who have had lasting adverse reactions from the vaccine. We need good data to be able to make good decisions.
āItās okay that weāre [locking down, mandating masks, mandating vaccines] because we [violated rights some other way in the past].ā
- Doing something wrong in the past does not justify doing it again in the future.
- Just because there may have been good outcomes in the past doesnāt mean the ends justify the means.
- Rights given up usually have to be taken back. Often at great cost.
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