"Severus Snape this and Severus Snape that"
Yeah, yeah, it's fuck Severus Snape until the day I die cause at that fucker's core is a lonely man who was so obsessed with Lily Evans that he was willing to let her 1-year-old child die so he could have her.
There's no redemption for that, especially when he went on to bully said child and then forced said child to look him in the eyes as he died so he could look into Lily's eyes once more.
I say once again, it's fuck Severus Snape until the day I die. His mother should have swallowed him.
I was obsessed with my abusive ex m, the one who fucked me up so badly psychologically that I was stalking all his social media 24/7 and even knew his ex-girlfriends’ birthdays. My friend is obsessed, the one who uses an app to spy on Instagram stories without her username showing so she can stalk people. And my other friend was obsessed when she kept checking someone’s WhatsApp last seen over and over again, and by “over and over again” I mean every single time she opened WhatsApp.
That said, I’d like you to explain to me in what way Severus was obsessed when Lily told him to fuck off at 15 and he literally didn’t know anything about her again until he was 21, when he heard the prophecy. Can you explain that to me? Because spending 6 years without knowing anything about someone, without contacting them, living your life and minding your own business, doesn’t seem very obsessive to me. I’m obsessive, I once wanted to find out information about someone and ended up going into the traffic department because I had their car’s license plate. You have no idea what it means to be a neurotic obsessive, sweetheart. You don’t have a fucking clue.
That said, you must be pretty narrow-minded if you don’t understand that in a situation of stress and terror, people don’t think about everything, they think about what matters most to them. And I’m sorry, but the person Severus knew and had a bond with was Lily, not her son, so it’s logical that he didn’t think about him at first. What you LOVE to ignore in that speech is that he then reconsiders and says yes, save the kid too. But that doesn’t suit your narrative for bashing.
And by the way, he spent with that kid 7 years with him saving his fucking ass, protecting him and keeping him alive until the very end. You also “forgot” to mention that because it doesn’t fit your narrative of villainizing a moderately complex character. One day you’re going to watch another show or read books for people over the age of thirteen and you’re going to have a stroke when you see the characters, because apparently if they’re not morally flawless, you can’t handle it, girl.
(Of course you’re a fan of Sirius and James, who were rich, privileged kids abusing their power against a working-class kid, with all the classism and power imbalance that impliesbut we’re not going to talk about you being a classist piece of shit right now because that’s not the point.)
That said, let’s also add that Snape’s mother right? Except you conveniently forget she was canonically an abused woman and he was a child in an abusive household. You also forget to mention that if he had issues with Harry, it’s because Harry was the spitting image of his father and his father was Severus’s abuser, who even sexually assaulted him. But of course you forgot that too, because your one brain cell can’t handle that much.
Child...your response is actually ridiculous but lets get into it.
Firstly, I don't give two shits about how obsessed you and your friends were about anyone. That's information I didn't ask for, and the fact that you used that in order to prove your point is laughable and cringe as all hell. Secondly, I didn't call Snape a neurotic obsessive; those words never left my mouth, nor did I ever type that, so instead of giving me some bullshit backstory as to why you got your panties in a twist, don't accuse me of something I didn't do.
I did, however, call Severus obsessed with Lily because he was. I don't think it started off toxic, of course, Lily was the only good thing in Snape's life; however, it's toxic when he asks Dumbledore to protect Lily and purposefully leaves out her fucking child. He had no reason to do that other than the fact that he hated Harry solely because of who his father was, and he was proof that Lily chose James.
Reminder: This is what was said.
‘You disgust me,’ said Dumbledore, and Harry had never heard so much contempt in his voice. Snape seemed to shrink a little. ‘You do not care, then, about the deaths of her husband and child? They can die, as long as you have what you want?' Snape said nothing, but merely looked up at Dumbledore. ‘Hide them all, then,’ he croaked. ‘Keep her - them - safe. Please.’ ‘And what will you give me in return, Severus?' ‘In - in return?’ Snape gaped at Dumbledore, and Harry expected him to protest, but after a long moment he said, ‘Anything.’
So yes, Snape was obsessed with Lily because "being in love" with someone doesn't excuse letting her husband and child die. That's not love or care. That's an obsession. Also, the whole "in a moment of terror you only think about what's more important" is bullshit because the prophecy wasn't about Lily. It was about Harry. How he can completely forget who the prophecy is about and focus on one person doesn't help your point at all, sweety. Also, he reconsidered...you gonna defend a man that had to reconsider on saving a baby???
And as for Snape protecting Harry, yeah, that's admirable, but why did he do it? He didn't do it because he actually cared for Harry. He viewed protecting Harry as a penance for Lily. Even in his last memories, when Dumbledore asks if he came to care for the boy, Snape answered with "For him?" and then proceeded to cast his patronus, showing that he did everything for Lily. It was always Lily. Everything he did was for Lily and the guilt he carried for having played a part in her death.
Again, here it is from the book:
“But this is touching, Severus,” said Dumbledore seriously. “Have you grown to care for the boy, after all?” “For him?” shouted Snape. “Expecto Patronum!” From the tip of his wand burst the silver doe. She landed on the office floor, bounded once across the office, and soared out of the window. Dumbledore watched her fly away, and as her silvery glow faded he turned back to Snape, and his eyes were full of tears. “After all this time?” “Always,” said Snape.”
Yeah, I do like Sirius and James. I fucking love them, and in a previous post about James and Lily, I mentioned that he bullied Snape. I never deny it, nor do I ever make excuses for them. I can admit that they were assholes, and I have admitted about James's sexual assault of Severus in a fanfic I'm writing, I just didn't mention it here, so of course, all you can do is assume so I won't hold that too much against you. However, they aren't people who grew up to be bitter and hateful and bully children as adults, like Severus did. Sirius, as an adult is complicated because of his diminished mental capabilities due to Azkaban, and James was betrayed by one of his best friends and then murdered. I think it's more than enough karma. Snape being a spy, a double spy at that, is admirable, no doubt about it, but that doesn't excuse his disgusting actions.
Nonetheless, I don't see how liking them makes me a classist piece of shit lmao but I guess it's because I'm not kissing Snape's ass.
And what does his mother being a DV victim have anything to do with the fact that I still think she should have swallowed Snape??? Where is the correlation other than the fact that you're trying to paint me as some asshole on the internet??? Make it make sense sway.
If I wanna talk about how Snape growing up poor, bullied, abused, and surrounded by people spouting hateful rhetoric caused him to seek power to stop feeling weak in a world that continuously beat him down, I will. Still, I don't really wanna do that, so I don't and I won't. I know that Snape is a complicated and complex character. That doesn't eliminate the hate that I have for that man.
Anywho, I hope that you have a very good day. I'm gonna go now byeee
You’re so so angry aren’t you? Hahaha And linda dumb by the way. But looking at your lack of analysis is not surprising at sll. Well, let’s go to make you feel like the idiot you are:
You open by whining about my example like it personally offended you, when the reality is you just didn’t understand it. I didn’t tell you a “backstory,” I used a comparison to illustrate what actual obsessive behaviour looks like versus what you’re calling “obsession,” which is just… having a strong emotional attachment. The fact that you can’t tell the difference is already a problem, but fine, let’s move on.
You keep insisting that Severus was “obsessed” with Lily because he prioritised her when he heard the prophecy, and honestly this is where your entire argument collapses because you fundamentally don’t understand how people work. Severus doesn’t react as a neutral observer because he isn’t one, he reacts as someone whose entire emotional world was once built around one single person due to a background of neglect, poverty and social isolation. Lily isn’t “just a crush,” she’s literally the only stable attachment he’s ever had, and that attachment is rooted in deprivation. So yes, when he hears she’s in danger, he focuses on her. That’s not obsession, that’s textbook attachment under stress. You’re expecting him to behave like an omniscient reader distributing concern equally according to narrative importance instead of like an actual human being reacting from his own emotional reality, which is honestly such a basic analytical failure that I don’t know how you’re this confident while making it.
And this whole “the prophecy wasn’t about Lily, it was about Harry” thing you keep repeating like it’s some mic drop just makes you look worse, and even more illiterate. You’re analysing the situation from outside the story with full information and then blaming the character for not doing the same. Snape doesn’t care about “the subject of the prophecy” in abstract terms because that’s not how people function. He cares about the one person he’s attached to. That’s it. That’s the explanation. There’s no grand obsessive pathology there, just you refusing to engage with basic psychology because it doesn’t fit your narrative.
Also, this “Lily chose James” nonsense needs to die because it’s genuinely embarrassing. James Potter is not some triumphant romantic winner in a love triangle because there was no triangle. Severus never confesses, never puts Lily in a position to choose, and by the time she gets with James they haven’t even been in contact for years. There is no “proof” of anything, Harry is not some symbolic rejection, he just looks like his father, who, by the way, was Snape’s abuser. But sure, let’s ignore that and go with your wattpad interpretation because it sounds more dramatic.
Then we get to the part where you clutch your pearls over the fact that he had to “reconsider saving a baby,” and this is where you really show that you have zero understanding of emotional processing. Yes, he had to process it. He’s not a morally perfect robot, he’s a traumatised twenty-year-old reacting to fear and guilt. And what happens? He does agree to protect the child. That’s called development. The fact that you freeze him in the first reaction and pretend that’s the full picture is not analysis, it’s you deliberately ignoring the parts that contradict you.
Your take on him protecting Harry is somehow even worse. You’re basically arguing that saving someone’s life doesn’t count unless you do it out of pure, selfless love, (like lmao girl how old are tou? 16?) which is such a childish and detached-from-reality standard that it would fall apart the second you apply it to the real world. By your logic, people who save lives out of duty, guilt, or responsibility don’t get any moral credit because they don’t personally love the person they’re saving. Do you realise how stupid that sounds? The outcome is that Harry stays alive because Snape acts, repeatedly, for years, at personal risk. You trying to dismiss that because “it was for Lily” just makes it clear you care more about preserving your dislike of the character than about making a coherent argument.
And now we get to my favourite part: your blatant double standards.
You say you “love” Sirius and James, you openly admit they were bullies, you even acknowledge the sexual assault, and then you immediately soften it with “well they didn’t grow up to bully children” as if that magically fixes anything. First of all, James didn’t “grow out of it” in any meaningful way, he just got better at hiding his behaviour from Lily, which is literally stated in canon. That’s not growth, that’s image management. Second, Sirius is a grown man who continues to be reckless, cruel and emotionally stunted, but suddenly his trauma is a valid explanation because Azkaban is involved. Meanwhile, Snape’s trauma—poverty, abuse, social marginalisation, being recruited into a terrorist group while vulnerable—is just… irrelevant to you. You don’t extend the same understanding, you don’t contextualise it, you don’t even want to talk about it.
And the reason is obvious, even if you don’t want to admit it. You’re perfectly comfortable empathising with privileged characters who had power, protection and options, but the moment a character’s behaviour is shaped by structural disadvantage, you drop all nuance and go straight to moral condemnation. That’s not a coincidence, that’s bias. You can laugh at the word “classist” all you want, but when you consistently minimise the actions of rich, socially dominant characters while reducing a poor, abused one to “he’s just a bad person,” you are quite literally reproducing that bias in how you read the story.
What’s actually funny is that you know this, because you literally say “I could talk about how he was poor, bullied, abused…” and then go “but I don’t want to.” Of course you don’t. Because the second you engage with that seriously, your whole argument falls apart. So instead you ignore it and keep bashing him like that somehow makes your position stronger, when in reality it just makes it look intellectually dishonest and yeah, classist as fuck.
And then, as if all of this wasn’t enough, you throw in that comment about his mother, which is honestly the point where any attempt you made to sound morally superior just completely implodes. You’re talking about a woman who is canonically abused and saying she “should have swallowed him,” and you genuinely don’t understand why that’s a problem. That’s not me “painting you as an asshole,” that’s you doing it yourself. You’re reducing an abused woman to a punchline and implying a child born into that situation shouldn’t exist, and then you want to be taken seriously when you talk about morality? Pick a lane.
At the end of the day, this isn’t about you liking or disliking a character. No one cares. It’s about the fact that your entire argument is built on misreading the text, ignoring context when it’s inconvenient, projecting your own interpretations as canon, and applying empathy so selectively that it ends up exposing a bias you don’t even seem aware of. You’re not doing analysis, you’re just justifying a pre-existing dislike and calling it depth, and the more you double down on it, the more obvious it gets.
So yeah you are a classist and a intelectusl failure. Sorry babe.
