The fact that people can take situations about Adrien/Chat being in distress and CHANGING it to make it all about fucking Ladybug is the most baffling, ass backwards thing Iâve ever bore witness to. Yeah, poor Marinette with her two loving parents, she has had the backing of most of her school throughout most of the show, sheâs the guardian, meaning that although sheâs as green as Chat, she makes all the shots without his input. She rarely gets any long lasting consequences. When she does anything, the fandom bows down at her feet. And now this bullshit.Â
Chat Blanc was an episode displaying the absolute trauma Adrien would go through if he were to discover who Hawkmoth truly was and what his intentions are. But no, poor poor Marinette, how awful of it for HER to be burdened with this information. unlike Adrien, who has an overprotective, emotionally abusive father, his ONLY escape is as Chat, when he can get out from under his fatherâs thumb, so giving it up is to give up most of his mobility and outward freedom. A KID who has to endure creepy fans, side-kicked by his own just as green partner. Nah, this pussy has it EASY, unlike Marinette who⊠Gets almost anything she wants, including her own crush simping for her⊠Damn Marinette has it hard!Â
Just, good fucking lord is it annoying. In canon his problems are more or less brushed off, but I had hope that that FANS would call this out. Somehow, Chatâs distress at being left in the dark somehow cycles back to how badly Marinette has it. Give me a fucking break, please.
And look, I get Marinette is suffering a little, but when I search the tag âChat Blancâ I shouldnât be seeing shit about how much Marinette is suffering⊠Itâs a fucking episode about Chat having a fucking emotional breakdown, is there seriously no shame?
This is the equivalent of going to the funeral of a man and when his widow steps down from the stage, you take it and talk about how badly it sucks for YOU to lose him⊠Like learn some tact, simp for Marinette on some other tag. Everything in this damn show cycles back to Marinette, even though she has ZERO strings to the plot. Marinette has (virtually) everyone in the fandom on her side, and when Chat breaks a chimney someone on a keyboard types out a 100K word fic about how he deserves to lose his Miraculous and how âMarinette deserves betterâ.
To close it out. Yes, theyâre both suffering, they both have a lot of pressure⊠But that doesnât excuse co-opting Adriens moments of suffering to make Marinette seem sympathetic. âThis is my angsty backstory filled with suffering, and misery, get your own!â
âan act in which one intentionally sexually touches another person without that persons consentâ please go to school. or get a tutor in reading comprehension
the way adrien is the blonde one and his name means dark but luka has black hair and heâs the light can be so special to me because adrienâs life is dark and luka is the bringer of light
adrien & marinette are so incredibly toxic for each other itâs actually impressive.
[this is literally just marinette bashing from the pov of an adrien sympathizer/apologist/enjoyer/whatever the fuck ppl say, btw and most of it barely makes sense but itâs important for me that my hate doesnât bump around in my head until i go insane]
obviously, theyâre endgame. (i think thatâs been confirmed, but iâm not sure.) the beginning of the story literally starts with marinette falling in love with adrien after he gives her his umbrella.
which is fine, and when i was 11 i thought it was very cute! but recently iâve rewatched it, and being older now iâve got more critical thinking skills & i have been thinking a LOT.
basically the way marinette falls for adrien is pretty cliche, she begins by thinking hes an ass and then he performs an act of kindness, which in turn, makes her fall in love with him.
but then it quickly gets weird. early in the show, she confesses her feelings via voicemail, and then when she gets embarrassed she reveals that she had been STALKING him. [knows his schedule from the time he wakes up in the morning to when he goes to sleep, where all his classes are, when they end. and she has it memorised.] in the same episode she steals his phone to delete the message. (and she doesnât even admit she has it, doesnât lie and say âi found itâ or anything like that, she sneaks it back in his bag?)
later, she gets annoyed with chat noirâs advances, and admits that sheâs in love with someone else. despite that, she continues to flirt with him, but complains when he flirts with her?. she continues calling him affectionate nicknames, (and even once calls herself his lady) she makes fun of him. ââweâre not a couple,â âdonât call me bugabooâ (but she calls him kitten.)
[another thing to mention is how marinette stans call this harassment on chatâs part, and then ignore the fact that 1) mari thinks itâs funny. canonically. she admits it in âtruthâ 2) she flirts with him too.]
flipside of the abuse with the excuse sheâs annoyed heâs in love with her [since âchat blancâ she has treated him like absolute garbage. literal bullying/abuse/whatever you want to call her bad attitude. in âkuro nekoâ plagg even tells her she needs to get her shit together], she keeps him in the dark about EVERYTHING. tell me, why did she think it was okay for carapace and rena rouge to know each otherâs identities? that it was okay to tell alya hers, but if chat even mentioned the idea of wanting to tell someone she goes all guardian on his ass. she isnât even inadvertently hurting him, sheâs just straight up lying to him.
and she knows that too. she says she trusts him, but she thinks itâs faster and more convenient to find another miraculous holder instead of calling chat. still, in spite of all of this, he still âlovesâ her. hell, in chat blanc he watches her commit B&E, but heâs still in love with her.
[also during chat blanc, she gawks at his things after breaking in, runs her fingers across his desk(?!?!) LAYS in his bed, sniffs his pillow âahh, adrien's scent âĄâ (EWW?) that is SO WEIRD]
she says theyâre friends, and that heâs more than a partner [which, if it were me who confessed to the only person i felt truly happy with, and they told me theyâre in love with someone else but emphasised that i was âmore than a partner,â i would HATE them]
but adrien doesnât hate her. and maybe you could say that heâs truly in love, but reading between the lines of his backstory, and knowing how abuse victims [and adrien has been abused A LOT, but thatâs a whole different thread] iâd say the reason he fell so fast for her is a product of abuse and neglect.
she gets angry with him when heâs cold with her after she hurts his feelings, which is wrong of them both. heâs human, and ladybug often treats him like heâs only there to be her lapdog (lapcat?). chat almost threw the fight because he let his emotions get the better of him, but ladybugâs reaction was awful. itâs like she doesnât think about how her actions can effect chat.
in fact, a lot of mariâs reactions are downright disgusting. when adriens ABUSIVE father prevents him from going to see his friends in âfelixâ, marinette ends up sulking and making it about herself. and nobody ever calls out her selfishness, instead, sheâs supposed to be the âeveryday ladybug.â
and yes, adrien is the one who that, but 1) heâs unaware about what marinette does, 2) heâs reasonably nice to chloe and lila, and those are people he knows are bad. adrien, because of his sheltered life, his ENTIRE life, is capable of recognizing bad behaviour, but a lot of adults and probably peers, were objectively bad people, so heâs been forced to look past unacceptable behaviour.
[no doubt this wouldâve been touched on more in canon of the show was aimed at an older audience .]
when marinette realizes adrien likes kagami, she instantly starts to hate her and she doesnât even know her. she even goes through kagamiâs phone out of jealousy. she isnât dating adrien, she chickens out every time she even thinks about confessing. whatâs her right to hate kagami? she has none.
and itâs like she sees adrien as an object, which is toxic in itself. she memorizes his schedule, interests and his favourite things. she stalks him in real life and online, watches videos of him on repeat. and the pictures of him under her mattress! what the actual fuck were the writers thinking? the fact that she has so many pictures of him, how many do you think she took of him without him knowing? at least 1, you see him looking in different directions in multiple.
[âtheyâre from photo shoots! theyâre all public!â even so, she put time and effort into finding pictures of him, printing them out, hanging them up, and didnât once think âthis is wrong.â]
in partycrasher she gets mad and sneaks in when adrienâs bodyguard is only letting his male friends in. she practically had a tantrum over the fact that other people were seeing adrien and she could not.
and you could actually argue that she was mad at the âmisogynyâ, but she was there when the girls were planting the trees and she left to see why the boys were making excuses to not come. she only became jealous when she found out they were with adrien.
this is made worse when her friends only fuel her obsession. alix is the only one who protests and calls her weird, but in the end she goes along with their complicated and problematic plans.
alya even pushes them both into situations theyâre both uncomfortable with. with adrien and luka.
and speaking of luka,
marinette accepted his confession KNOWING she didnât like him the same way she liked adrein. she knew she wasnât over him. she was using him. not even as a rebound, but as a stand-in for adrien.
luka is still in love with marinette, and even if luka is truly okay with helping her be with adrien isnât it literally just self torture? marinette is so wrong for that.
lukaâs acceptance for âgoing with the flowâ i think, if it wasnât a childrenâs show, would absolutely be replaced by the trauma of being the eldest of of someone named ANARKA and overall mental health issues. [because being an older sibling in a dysfunctional household is traumatic enough on its own. seriously]
luka comes across as someone whoâs in control with everything. his job, his future career, his entire life. him being the elder sibling, and probably the caretaker since anarka is⊠anarka. with a mother like her, he has no choice but to play the cards heâd been dealt. and marinette was shuffling them and handing them out.
he was in love with her, and she barely liked him. she still let herself use him as a stand in.
but back to adrien.
in âkuro nekoâ the writers suddenly blame ladybugâs abuseâ [yes i will keep using that word. itâs true. since becoming the guardian she has been neglecting and bullying him. âmarinette is scared of chat blanc thatâs why sheâs pushing him away!!!â so⊠youâre afriad your parter is going to be overcome with negative emotions, so to avoid that, you knowingly hurt them?] â on cat noir being in love with her and somehow this is getting in the way.
he feels excluded and treated unfairly, betrayed and abandoned because ladybug was pushing him to the sidelines and choosing other people to help fight along side her, episode after episode. and this had nothing to do with him being in love with her. even plagg was telling marinette she was being an ass
anyway thereâs probably a billion other ways i could criticize marinette , adrienette and all thinks akin but this is such a long rant and i am so tired and now iâm pissed too
can we PLEASE talk about the fact that adrien is suicidal ?!
well, maybe heâs not suicidal. but his self-sacrifice and lack of reaction to near-death is fucking insane.
imagine if this wasnât a kids show? how absolutely heartbreaking adrienâs character would be? his story, if you put some things together, read between some lines is already awful in canon.
the all-around abuse from his mother and father (no doubt from chloe, too, even if she is âjust a kidâ, so is adrien) and then later from characters like lila and wayhem and marinette (DONT even try and defend her that isnât what this post is about. itâs still freaky if the victim isnât aware)
in chat blanc, he tries to kill himsef with a cataclysm, but in the end heâs the only one that survives. thatâs so fucking tragic??? having killed everyone in the city, reinforcements wouldâve been called. to stay alone for as long as he did, and not be taken down, heâd have had to kill superheroes from other countries. imagine being alone, suicidal, constantly murdering masses of people who you donât want to hurt for months.
in gorizilla , he jumps off a skyscraper, albeit thinking ladybug would save him, but even when plagg tells him heâs going to die, even when he continues to fall, he just closes his eyes. this implies that even if ladybug didnât save him, he wouldnât care.
i donât remember the details of guilt trip, but from what i do remember, he was the only person who the sentimonster drove to suicide. these arenât even all of the concerning moments.
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