You mentioned you transcribed it for posterity? Can you share that with us??
indeed! this can be checked against the official transcript when it’s released/listened along to for verification. i did the best i could/only focused on the parts where Fitzroy’s asexuality was discussed:
Griffin: I wanted to talk real quick about this question real quick from Lucy, and kind of work it out as I talk, uh: "Would you consider playing/making a character who is romantic and/or asexual?" Which is something I have thought about specifically in regards to Fitzroy, for - I mean really, since - for as long as we have been playing, um... Partially because right when we started Graduation, the Outer Worlds came out - did you guys all play that?
Griffin: There was this amazing character Parvati who was an asexual character who was like… uh, it was a representation of asexuality in a game or piece of media that I had never really seen before? Like, there was an attention to detail and a care and a sweetness about it that, you know, sort of took the internet by storm.
And the time I was thinking about Fitzroy, and I didn't want... It's a tricky thing, right, asexuality is a spectrum, and the very last thing I would wanna do is paint a character who is so ambitious that, like... he doesn't have time to be sexually attracted to anybody, or he doesn't have - or he has some sort of, you know, mental disorder that keeps him from having that particular attachment to people? Uh, like, I don't want his ambition and his sexual identity to be one and the same, 'cause I think that that is a problematic thing.
But as we've gone on, and especially, Trav, in the episodes where he was having this sort of flashback to his time at school, at Clyde Nite's Knight School, there is a differentness about Fitzroy that I think has always been there, that is not necessarily attributable to his - to his ambition, that I think just really came out in that episode, that, you know, kind of fell in line with the way that he has been developed throughout the whole season.
Uh, so I think of him as asexual, which is not the same thing as being, like, aromantic. And it's like - it's a difficult thing to kind of set in stone, because again it is kind of a spectrum, but like. I feel like, over time I felt like more comfortable with that being a definitive part of his personality. Like it is just... in everything I have thought about in this character, and I feel like I have thought about a lot of things, like his - which is funny, because I think [through laughter] the very first thing I said about him is that he's a very sexy, sexual person, which looking back is -
Travis: Well, but that could be other people's perceptions of him, y'know!
Justin: [crosstalk] It all starts out with rough sketches, yeah.
Travis: Yeah, that's something - I'm still dealing with Magnus in the first episode, I talk about him having some, like, sexy wood carvings or something.
Griffin: Sure. I, like, I - I think it's important for us to know a lot about our characters, and we think a lot, a lot, a lot about our characters, and this is an important thing to think about our characters, but it... I don't know, it is a... It's a decision that I felt like, uh.... was something I wanted when we started? But over time, and especially during those flashback episodes, I feel like it is just sort of... it just makes sense.
[64:23 to 65:56 - Justin talks a bit abt Taako and sexuality, playing as discovering a character rather than “sitting back with a board and writing out their entire biography” - you discover the character as you go]
Travis: And that was something - to jump back in, going into “Creative Writing,” like, I asked all three of you what it is your characters’ sexual orientation, because I didn’t want to assume any of that. And when griffin said, “Y’know, I don’t think… I don’t think Fitzroy really feels that,” I was like, “Oh, okay, cool, great!” Like that is an interesting thing to know about that character so that I didn’t assume anything. So it also, then, informed, for me, some potential scenes I could have coming up that would be, like, an interesting interaction between some characters, just so I could see how everyone - like, that’s the thing, is, it’s interesting.
