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Seriously, anyone that's throwing a hissy fit over people playing a video game really needs to go outside and touch some grass.
Hot Take: Written CP is still CP.
It's not being a puritan to say folks shouldn't support toddler rape fantictions on AO3.
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Seriously, anyone that's throwing a hissy fit over people playing a video game really needs to go outside and touch some grass.
Wow so you're suddenly pro-fic now.
What does me thinking people should be allowed to play Harry Potter Legacy without being doxxed equals to me being pro-ship???
Being into rape/incest/loli is not the same. But nice try though.
Pro ship/ pro fic: People shouldn't be hurt because of their tastes in *fiction*.
So you're only profic for topics you like but not for the topics different people like. Gotcha.
Also, speaking for it in *fiction*, it is pretty much the same. It is literally just a story. You like HP's story, which many people see as having racist or xenophobic undertones. Someone else likes a *fictional* loli story while acknowledging it's bad in real life. If anything I'd say writing loli fics on Ao3 is less harmful because at least you're not giving a famous TERF more recognition.
And no, just because a story has sexual abuse themes doesn't make it "dirtier" now *that's* puritanism. Which as I said is a right wing ideology. And that's why it's dangerous. You're allowed to be uncomfortable. You're not allowed to insult or hurt others over it. Fiction is fiction. That's it.
Like I said.
A world full of magical wizards is not the same level of being turned on by stories about rape and CSEM.
And I'll say it until I'm blue in the face, if your titilated by stories of middle schoolers having sex with adults, you're a fucking pedo.
There are some lines that shouldn't be crossed even when it comes to writing stories. Sorry not sorry.
If you're into that stuff more power to you but don't act like everyone else has to accept it and never criticize.
I've never been much behind the whole anti-ship versus pro-ship debate, but seeing how obnoxious and hypocritical pro-shippers can be has really irritated me the past couple of days.
I can understand why so many people are antiship.
When you're side of the argument is all okay with loli/shota/pedophilic stories you lost any high horse you were on.
And I'm not talking about a 2-year age difference. I saw people on here and on the AO3 subreddit bragging about being into ships with majorly underage characters and grown ass adults. And apparently you're being a prude if you have a problem with that
ProShippers can say they're just anti-censorship when they should just be honest and say they just want to be able to goon to certain topics without judgment. Cuz trust me, they do seem like sex addicts in denial.
Just like booktok.🤣
You can't even say "rape" why would we consider your opinion?
"Sex addiction" isn't even the situation for most of us you can be proship and not have a hypersexuality disorder.
Not sure why a 2 years old age gap is included in here considering it's not problematic to begin with.
But with other taboo subjects (that are actually dark)? You're missing the point that it's legitimately just a story. A. Story. It doesn't even harm anyone by simply existing.
Of course if someone pulls out actual abuse material of real children we're against that. Oh, by the way, do you know who actually spams real life Child Sexual Abuse / Exploitation Material ? It's the antishippers, there are even records of antishippers telling proshippers to find "real CSEM and leave the fictional characters alone".
Talk about hypocrisy. You're going to support that?
(I know that some twitter lolicons or something are nazis or whatever, but they're not considered proshippers by our community because proship is based on anti harassment explicitly and they are harassing people.)
...I don't actually expect that you'll come up with a good argument that won't a) Call me a groomer goonie or whatever or b) Ignore all the points I made and repeat everything you said in your original post so it's more like a monologue than a dialogue. Either way, I'd take my win.
A final note: "Prude" more like puritanist, because that's what you're doing. And puritanism is tightly connected with alt right and fascist ideas so congratulations!
What arguments did you actually give me? What points are you actually making??
And I literally said in my post that I wasn't talking about to 2 year age gaps.
For some reason pro-shippers think when anti-shippers are talking about age gaps, they bring up like folks are talking about a two or or 3-year age gap. When that is not the case. A two to three year age gap is nothing.
Writing a middle schooler being RAPED(SINCE YOU'RE SO SENSITIVE ABOUT ME NOT USING THAT WORD) by grown as adult is what I'm talking about.
And I'm not talking about it being written in a tasteful and respectful way.
I'm talking about it being written in a way that its treated like a paraphilia. Something meant to be titillated by.
And sorry to bust your bubble. Just because someone's not into your weird kinks doesn't mean they're conservatives. If that's what you truly think, you really are child.
And who exactly is sending real CP to people? I keep hearing that happened but I have yet to see any evidence of it. Where I can find several posts of pro-shippers being openly pedos when it comes to loli/shotacon.
Seriously, anyone that's throwing a hissy fit over people playing a video game really needs to go outside and touch some grass.
Wow so you're suddenly pro-fic now.
What does me thinking people should be allowed to play Harry Potter Legacy without being doxxed equals to me being pro-ship???
Being into rape/incest/loli is not the same. But nice try though.
I've never been much behind the whole anti-ship versus pro-ship debate, but seeing how obnoxious and hypocritical pro-shippers can be has really irritated me the past couple of days.
I can understand why so many people are antiship.
When you're side of the argument is all okay with loli/shota/pedophilic stories you lost any high horse you were on.
And I'm not talking about a 2-year age difference. I saw people on here and on the AO3 subreddit bragging about being into ships with majorly underage characters and grown ass adults. And apparently you're being a prude if you have a problem with that
ProShippers can say they're just anti-censorship when they should just be honest and say they just want to be able to goon to certain topics without judgment. Cuz trust me, they do seem like sex addicts in denial.
Just like booktok.🤣
Motherfuckers really be saying live and let live but if you say you're not into lolicon or incest in fanfiction, watch how fast they screenshot your blog post and post it to the AO3 subreddit to whine about "puritan culture".
Just stay the fuck away from me, you weirdo.
Being on the subreddit for AO3 at times is like watching people trying to find something to be mad at.
Seriously I have never seen a bigger group of people taking turns being the victim when it comes to fanfics. The whole pro shipper versus anti-shipper discourse is always popping up and it gets annoying after a while. Like how are you going to complain about a subsection of the internet being obsessed with you but then turn around to excessively complain about that same side of the internet.
Make it makes sense.
I've only been a part of the Mouthwashing fandom for 2 weeks and finding out that there is a part of fandom that sexualizes and gets turned on by the rapist is a big yikes.
Me: *have a take on the Odyssey from the version I know*
Epic Fandom: Oh, So you're saying you don't think males SA victims can exist?! You rape apologist!
Me: Where the fuck did I say any of-
Something I'm starting to notice about this fandom; y'all can like Epic's version of Odysseus without trying to paint Calypso as a rapist.
Odysseus in the original tale did cheat on his wife. Several times. And there's nothing wrong with acknowledging that. But trying to paint him as blameless and all the other women as rapists for seducing him is not the winning move y'all think it is.
Like Tiktok is becoming the worst when it comes to the topic of Calypso.
You know the realest thing that came out of Epic: The Musical is people rationalizing that all Odysseus had to do was to offer ass and His whole crew would have lived😂
Zeus and Poseidon are both known horn dogs in Greek mythology. And they would have for sure gone for it!
Tumbler gave me my account back😭
Unpopular opinion:
Kinktober can be the most annoying time on Ao3.
It's just another kudos farming event where most of the writings being rushed out daily are terrible.
Hey, if the story creeps you out and traumatized you out just remember these plot holes:
Ain't no way the authorities wouldn't have interrogated Chris and his crew and not mounted a rescue effort. It may be 2007 but planes, helicopters, and strong ships exist.
They may be teenagers but they're not stupid. And on top of the fact a lot of them are physically capable and intelligent. No way they wouldn't have caught the serial killer or at least made it impossible for anyone else to die. If anything, Izzy, Eva, or Duncan would have probably kicked the killer's ass.
I'm just critiquing all this because I feel like we have another mlp "Cupcakes" situation brewing. And this au is just tainting the regular Total drama hashtags and searches. Meaning younger kids who don't want to see this graphic shit are being unwillingly exposed to this. So might as well put out what would have realistically happened in their world to ease some of the horror.
I can't be the only one on here thinking there's a high chance Orion is lying.
I've seen this type of Twitter shenanigan happen with Dream, proJared, and Pyro.
It's always either a fan looking for clout or someone bitter that a famous person doesn't talk to them anymore.
It turns out I was right from day one. Twitter and Tumblr, let this be a lesson ONCE AGAIN not to take allegations at face value.
People lie.
Bitter exes do exist.
And it doesn't help the fact that she bragged about being having BPD and being a Junko Kinnie FFS.
The people with those combos and brag about it have shown they are not the most stable of people!!!!!!
A lot of you who posted on here calling Kwite a monster need to delete your posts and apologize!
A lot of the evidence that Orion has just proves one thing, that they and Kwite dated.
I haven't seen any evidence that Kwite was this abusive and manipulative teenager.
Also, there's been a YouTube video from when they did come out with allegations years ago but that is putting holes in the current story they have out now
And it's starting to get on my nerves that they say they have even more evidence of DMS between them but refuse to release them. And it doesn't help that Orion has been caught lying on Twitter when it comes to Kwite's discord channel.
Plus a lot of the things they've been sharing on Twitter about the discord messages being deleted you just have to take their word for it. They really don't show any solid proof that Kwite has deleted personal messages between them.
And another thing, the fan discord: I think it's totally rational for the mods on a discord sponsored channel to crack down on spamming and hate raids. Saying that the mods are just being straight evil is completely unreasonable and just sends unnecessary hate towards them.