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i'm sorry the demonization of robby (esp on pittok) is actually starting to get both decently concerning and annoying. it's literally all i'm seeing with discussions in regards to his character. saw someone refer to him on here as "the devil himself" in a post that had 20k notes. commentary like this was funny at first, when it felt silly and unserious, but a lot of you are not joking. and that is weird. because why is this how you guys treat the mentally ill representation all of tumblr is constantly complaining they want? you finally have it. too real? too unsavory? that's literally the whole point of his character. to give a nuanced and unflinching portrayal of depression, suicidal ideation, unresolved trauma, and work related burnout that many healthcare workers experience. robby might not be real, but these vitriolic and insensitive things you say about him will impact real people who see themselves in him. not to be too extra but maybe this is why male suicide rates are so high. because this is how you guys treat and speak about men who are actively struggling.
some people are purposely witholding empathy for his character and being so critical of his actions specifically because he's a man, and that shit is really weird. and can i say it? he's not a misogynist. i'm not gonna talk too much about that even though i could write a whole thinkpiece if sufficiently prompted. just know arguing with a woman and being a little mean to them does not at all translate to misogynoir. that's just him being off-kilter and in a shitty mood (you know, because he's actively suicidal? but yeah let's just all ignore that part). in fact, if i can participate in the woke olympics for a second i think people who are labeling robby as as misognyist fit that bill much more themselves. so many people i see making this argument boil down characters like al-hashimi and mohan to the fact that they are just women instead of grown ass adults who are strong and capable of bumping heads with robby (and this is coming from someone who strongly disliked his treatment of mohan in s2).
robby is not the big bad wolf. you give him too much credit. these women are not weak-willed flowers who will crumble at the slightest bit of conflict. funnily enough, that trend of thought is super contrarian because it makes gender their sole defining trait in the discussion of their character. it also paints them as weak victims. did we watch the same show? because i saw 2 adults. who had an argument. there's no need to cry hatecrime. and i say this as someone who is so avidly feminist. we gotta stop throwing that term around. the way you guys talk about him makes him sound so cartoonishly evil you'd think he was running around the ER shaking kids down for candy or something. it'd be funny if it wasn't so disapointing.
you don't have to like him personally to watch the show (though i do think it's a bit odd not to, given he's the main character) but refusing to acknowledge the percieved complexities of his character in the "everybody is complex" show is weird. my opinion? robby is not a bad person. hell, he's not even morally complex. i see someone who has made mistakes, just like everyone else on planet earth. he's a good, genuine guy who has been ravaged by mental illness. he is just very, very lost. that's the point. that is what mental illness can do to you. he is not a perfect person, in fact, at many points during my viewing of s2 i sort of hated him. but i will always defend him, because he is not this malicious figure the narrative online is painting him as. the pitt fandom only has this attitude for him and quite literally nobody else.
also, i heard noah wyle is getting hate for the FICTIONAL CHARACTER he plays on a FICTIONAL SHOW and all i have to say is, you guys are so fucking weird and parasocial. please touch some grass. micheal robinavitch is not a real person. he cannot hurt you.
Another thing I appreciate about The Pitt is that instead of having one completely socially flawed person (aside from Monica ofc)- it shows a lot of generally progressive people who have certain biases here and there that they still need to unlearn
This is so much more realistic than characters being completely on one side of the line or the other. Just because someone labels themselves as progressive doesnāt mean they magically unlearn all the bigotry of our society. And just because someone still hasnāt unlearned a bias doesnāt mean theyāre a hateful bigot who canāt be redeemed.
we gotta stop treating other peoples headcanons and interpretations as some sort of malicious attack on the character itself. I know you love the character and you feel that certain interpretations go against the core of their being, but that doesnāt actually mean it shouldnāt exist. youāre tiptoeing a very conservative line when you take away other peopleās safe sandbox to play in when you engage in the fandom and negatively asserting your own interpretation. you donāt need to announce your vehement disagreement every time you donāt like something to the whole fandom, the truth is you need to learn to be uncomfortable and not make it everyone elseās problem. block and filter, curate your own space.
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mcu stevetony is like congrats this man was literally cooked up in a lab to be your government assigned soulmate in every universe, ragebait you for the rest of your life to bring out the best and worst of you and some people will still say you were just coworkers
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a clearer articulation of what I was just nattering about in the tags: I really like that when mel responds with unexpected enthusiasm and excitement in the workplace (e.g. high-fiving jessie and robby, clapping for a eulogy when no one else does), robby's confusion doesn't seem to come from a place of judgment, but from the confusion of a burned out middle aged emergency medicine doctor realizing that someone can genuinely have as much enthusiasm for and optimism about their work as mel does. at least, that's what I read in his reactions to mel ā the realization that she genuinely is that excited and that motivated by the same profession that has driven him to the edge
imo that's why he likes her so much and praises her as one of his best residents; she can find the bright side in their work even when no one else can. her visible displays of enthusiasm aren't awkward or a liability, but a reminder that their work is important and worthy of celebration even when they feel themselves to have failed. it's meaningful given that autistic people are often stereotyped as childish or unempathetic, but through robby the viewer is encouraged to see mel's visibly autistic traits as the exact things that make her an excellent doctor
idk man i just think despite all your gripes and grievances and anger with robby as a character, and your hatred of his realistic character flaws, by far the more important feedback to the pitt creators is the feedback from medical professionals who adore robby.
this show was made to honour medical workers and highlight their struggles and realities in that workplace/area. when they say that robby is exactly like them, or like doctors or nurses that they knew and loved who committed suicide (the cast have visited hospitals where doctors have spoken to them and thanked them, and talked about their "own doctor robby" who sadly didn't live), and that they have been crying out for this truthful and non-sensationalised reprasentation, they are the ones who really matter here in this conversation. not you.
they deserve this complex and nuanced and empathetic character at a breaking point, and they deserve to see his storyline, and they deserve to get this good reprasentation of what it's really like to feel like you're holding up the world on your shoulders in a system falling apart. they deserve it all. we're all here because of them. they don't deserve a watered down, piss-poor showing of their own trauma because you can't grasp the nuance of a genuine character.
so, you know, im sorry that you don't like the ugly realities of robby's breakdown. sorry about that. but the medical professionals who relate so universally to robby's life and experience are infinitely more important here, and they dont deserve to be sidelined due to your discomfort with reality.
just backing this up with the story that the cast and crew learned during season two when a chief attending very similar to robby with his tenacity and leadership was a shining star amongst his peers went home one day and shot himself in the head. the rippling side effects of that devastated them and he's one of thousands out there who are a victim of the healthcare system and their stories portrayed by these characters deserve to be told. they deserve to be represented.
Please return us to a world where Notp and squick are used for a ship you donāt like instead of just making up a load of bullshit about how immoral it is or w/e lolĀ
a short selection of concepts and phrases that used to be commonplace in fandom and weād really benefit from making that a thing again:
NOTP: the opposite of an OTP (One True Pairing). It is a ship a fan strongly dislikes. The word is a portmanteau of ānoā and āOTPā and thus is not a contraction of any particular phrase.
Squick: anything that is a deep-seated, visceral turn-off. Squicks may be shared by many fans or be specific to one; one personās kink may be another personās squick.
YKINMKATO, or kink-tomato: Your Kink Is Not My Kink, And Thatās Okay: used to indicate support for fannish diversity and to distinguish between disapproval or kink shaming and simply having different taste.
DLDR: Donāt Like, Donāt Read: a phrase used to warn against complaints about an aspect of fic or meta. A ālive and let liveā philosophy of fandom, which places the responsability for avoiding content one doesnāt want to see on the side of the fanwork consumer, rather that on the creatorās.
SALS: Ship And Let Ship: similar to the above specifically about shipping tastes.
YMMV: Your Mileage May Vary: a phrase used to acknowledge that any given individualās personal opinion on the topic at hand may differ due to their own tastes, standards, values, experiences, etc.
As the OP points out, all of these crucially imply no moral judgment of what theyāre designing.
(definitions lifted more or less wholesale from fanloreās relevant pages)
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just so u know everything in the entire universe is always about love and when it isn't about love it is abt the absence of love. hope this makes sense
Do you know how hard it is to not only find a JEWISH character, but one who says a prayer ON SCREEN(accurate), wears a STAR OF DAVID AROUND HIS NECK, AND KNOWS *HEBREW????
Do you know how hard it is to find accurate representation like ever for Jewish characters?
And to the people who go āoh well you get representationāānot always accurate bud. Please try again. Plus, many times is it offensive and using Jewish stereotypes.
So Robby just being Jewish and his Jewish background showing through and shining on The Pitt really means a lot to me. Thank you Noah Wyle, truly.
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