Today is the 1 year anniversary of me making my first ever proship tumblr account! I remember being so scared a year ago, feeling like I was committing some sort of sin after being an anti for so long—but if I didn’t just “try it out” I would not nearly be as happy and healthy as I am now. And I’m really happy for that.
On the topic of lolisho content potentially increasing the risk of someone offending, I found an NIH article going over fantasy sexual material (which would include lolisho) and pedophiles who might consume the content.
The conclusion they came to was that there is as many reasons it can increase the risk of offending as it can lower it, and it also depends on factor's like the person's mental health or environmental factors. Essentially, it isn't as clear cut as "if you consume lolisho, you're more likely to offend". I have tried to find other sources but their conclusions seem to be just as wishy washy.
i made a post about this back in july on my old blog, with the caption “this person wants to be a therapist btw”, and i’m going to be talking more about this under the cut.
tldr: many antishippers get into healthcare to abuse vulnerable people.
a lot of people (myself included) have noticed how many abusers/antishippers/bullies/etcetera seem to want to pursue healthcare or social-work as a profession, yet i never see anyone talking about why that is. i’ve seen people talk about it as if it’s some weird phenomenon, but it’s not. it’s fully intentional.
people like abusers, antishippers, and bullies generally get joy out of harming others. a majority of the time, the people they most enjoy harming are vulnerable people. and what profession allows you access to vulnerable people?
healthcare and social-work.
it’s been hard to find statistics on this, since every google search seems to only be focused on the abuse towards healthcare workers (also important, but not what i’m talking about), instead of the abuse perpetrated by healthcare workers towards patients, but i’ve managed to find a few interesting ones.
according to an article looking at the prevalence of violence perpetrated by healthcare workers in long-term care, the overall prevalence of physical abuse was 8%, the overall prevalence of verbal abuse was 22% (as was the overall prevalence of physical restraint), the overall prevalence of psychological abuse was 19%, the overall prevalence of sexual abuse was 2%, the overall prevalence of neglect was 20%, and the overall prevalence of financial abuse was 11%.
therapist abuse is also a massive issue (described as a “notable issue” by an organisation in my country), though that was really hard to find sources on, as google was simply telling me why lots of therapists have been abused in the past. however, the statistics for sexual and financial abuse were both around 7%.
my point is — abuse perpetrated by healthcare workers is already a massive problem, and one of the reasons that it’s a massive problem is because healthcare workers have access to vulnerable people. the medical side has access to people who may not be able to defend themselves/rely heavily on a healthcare worker, and the psychological side has access to a lot of victims and a lot of people with mental disorders/issues/disabilities/etcetera.
and this links back to abusers, antishippers, and bullies. as i said, these people generally get joy out of harming others, wether that be mentally, physically, sexually, or verbally. this can be through physical harm, harassment, suicide-baiting, threatening, DARVO, and other such abuse tactics. as you can imagine, these could all be easily done to a vulnerable person, especially when the abuser is in a position of power over the victim, such as a therapist, doctor, or social-worker.
however, since the person that i was originally talking about is an antishipper, i’m going to be talking about them slightly more.
not only do most vocal antishippers use these abuse tactics (most notably harassment, suicide-baiting, threatening, and DARVO), a lot of them also partake in virtue-signalling. simply-put, they want to appear as morally correct people, and they want people to acknowledge that and commend them for it. this, however, leaves no room for nuance.
human beings are not morally correct people. no one is ever completely morally correct, because morals are subjective and the idea of morality is fluid. i may think that something is moral, whilst you may think that it’s immoral. that does not make me immoral or you moral.
in professions like healthcare, particularly therapists and psychologists, you’ll potentially have to meet and care for many people who you think are immoral or unsavoury. a good therapist would put aside their personal bias and try and help the patient regardless. an antishipper masquerading as a therapist would most-likely abuse the patient into their way of thinking, then congratulate themselves for “curing” them of something that did not need to be cured in the first place.
you may think i’m exaggerating, but i’m not. i’ve seen many posts of antishippers “curing” darkshippers or “helping them find a better coping-mechanism” — they’re not doing either of those things. instead, they are simply harassing people into behaving in a way that they deem morally correct, based on their own personal bias.
to the person in the screenshot: how would you “treat” a patient who happens to be a darkshipper? i’m genuinely curious, because right now it seems like the only thing you’d do is shame them and tell them to “get the hell off the fucking internet”, “touch some grass”, “get a damn life”, or “get a fat ass reality check”.
i don’t think i need to tell you that it’s inappropriate and, quite possibly, verbal-abuse for a therapist to say that to a patient. do i?
As someone who’s actually already applied to colleges in order to become a psychologist myself—it really scares me whenever I see people like this, who obviously aren’t going into this career because they actually want to help people, and instead do it to feel some sort of moral superiority above people in online arguments.
But one thing that, to an extent, brings me some comfort, is that people who are purely motivated by the ability to argue won’t get far. College bachelors, masters, and PhD’s aren’t structured to teach you things you agree with—quite the opposite, actually. If anything none of even my AP psychology classes have been easy, as they’ve forced me to change my views, or confront things within myself in very uncomfortable and triggering ways, and we’re not even actually talking about psych disorders yet. We’re only talking about developmental and cognitive psychology right now.
Most antis are way too weak-willed to actually make their whole way to a Master’s or PhD. Not many can handle 6-8+ years of being proven wrong over and over by professors, classmates, and your study material and curriculum. They either realize they’re wrong or they drop out and stay an asshole. Which is good, because it’d be crazy to hear your defensive and not very socially conscious and aware therapist boast about how they became a therapist to prove people morally wrong and find out they ignored everything during their sexual psychology unit.
Something that I think people fundamentally miss about proship argumentation is that we're not talking about the consequences of negative depictions of abuse and violence on the big screen or streaming services or award winning novels.
The proship argument in favour of "ship and let ship" is fundamentally and specifically about fanfiction and other fan works.
Because fanfiction is not a movie. It is not a published novel. It is not a Netflix series. It is fundamentally irrelevant to hold fan works to the standards of big name or even indie productions.
There are far fewer supposed consequences for somebody writing a bad fanfiction because of the extreme niche it occupies. However, Netflix greenlighting a movie I will not name that sexualized minor actresses was rightfully criticized. These are two different mediums inherently.
Proship = ship and let ship. It does not mean "there are no consequences to any depictions of anything ever." You are very much allowed to discuss the consequences of stereotypes in major motion pictures, for example. They inherently have a far greater reach than any fanfiction ever has had or will have.
Unfortunately, people on both sides have forgotten this.
I’m not active on here at all but bc I got followers who are active with everything happening in terms of drama I wanna say this—
do I have my own thoughts on everything that is happening? Yes, I do, I’ve had some thoughts on people involved for a while.
Is there anyone I’ve taken sides with, or people I support more in this? Admittedly yes. I do think some of the people involved are problems here and definitely shouldn’t have a platform to continue all of this.
am I going to publically involve myself in this? Absolutely not. I’ve seen how violent people are getting over this. I’m not going to get involved in any capacity out of this statement, and don’t push me to state my opinions either. It’s already been made morbidly clear that disagreement of any kind is met with really violent harassment.
Disrespectfully, I think that some of you need to stop using "delusional" as an insult.
I also think that you should perhaps stop acting like someone that can't 100% separate fictional & reality shouldn't be online. Some of you are sounding low-key ableist to be completely honest. Stop acting like you're better than people with delusions. Stop acting like people with delusions deserve to be isolated.
I love you characters who try so hard to avoid becoming one specific thing that they end up becoming something arguably worse. I love you characters with backwards development. I love you characters whose ideals dissolve over time. I love you characters who start out bright-eyed and end their stories with several important pieces missing.
