Beware Of Crimson Peak

This is an rp blog for characters from the movie Crimson Peak. All content is G-R. R being mostly for violence. Please respect the mun and have a nice day.

[allerdalexhall]

fellow crimson peak fan! hello! new to the tumblr fandom but glad to see it's still kicking :)

Welcome and glad to see more people that enjoy the movie.

[allerdalexhall]

I did find out some more info on a rewatch about the Sharpe’s ages in relation to a question you answered awhile back. Alan says the paper says Thomas was twelve at the time of the murders and Lucile 14, so this confirms there’s a two year age difference between the two and not ten like you might have thought ? Just for clarity (love you still have the blog.)

Could you supply me with where you found this info of it being only two years? I have answered to the same type of reply 3 years ago before about two years difference, which I still haven't really seen that as an official age for them as when Guillermo posted their bios on twitter it has their birth years listed. Lucille is written as 1868 and Thomas as 1878. As that is what Guillermo has in his bios for them, I take that as the official ages upon taking place in 1901. And thank you I appreciate that. I try to get the info correct and post when I see a question. Though at times things are missed cause tumblr doesn't always notify me about them.

[allerdalexhall]

Did Thomas know Lucille was going to kill Ediths father? And did he genuinely hope to change her father's mind in his later and make something of himself? Was Lucille killing her father was a way not only to trap her but trap Thomas as well?

In my opinion, he didn't know and was surprised. At least that is what it appears to me when he sees her father after he's death. He connected the dots right away cause he knows what Lucille is capable of. That's a good point. I do believe that was another reason Lucille would do that. She may not have known yet how much Edith meant to Thomas, but she likely was starting to see it. In the very least, she did it out of rage and need for control. It's evident by how badly she beat his head in and shows in her other victims in how they look upon their deaths.

[allerdalexhall]

Did Thomas know Lucille was going to kill Ediths father? And did he genuinely hope to change her father's mind in his later and make something of himself? Was Lucille killing her father was a way not only to trap her but trap Thomas as well?

I honestly don’t think Thomas knew Lucille was gonna kill him as he looks genuinely surprised when finding out and seeing the body.

It was an escalated move on Lucille’s part as the previous wives were either alone or taken far from their families.

She did it in the end to assure Thomas and Edith would marry as Edith’s father was the only one in the way saying no and black mailing them with the knowledge of their mother’s mysterious death.

I think when not with Lucille, Thomas has more freedom and his true self and nature comes out.

He goes to see Carter alone and tries to get him to invest in his invention.

We don’t see Lucille until the part at this point and she’s souly working on getting Mrs McAlan to agree to her daughter’s unofficial engagement to Thomas. They having met the McAlan’s while they were away from America and being invited to stay in their home as Thomas had “shown” interest in marrying the daughter.

It’s during the time away from them that Thomas meets and falls in love with Edith.

I believe he greatly wished to no longer marry woman for money and Lucille kill them after.

He was always trying to follow his own plans investing and trying to find investors in his machine for mining clay and become wealthy again to restore the manor and be happy.

There are several chances for Thomas to change things if he gives up on Allerdale Hall and his sister as well.

He could have turned Lucille back in as she has a record being institutionalized at a young age for her mother’s murder, even with hiding the weapon, and he could have put all blame on her and lived a happy life.

Sadly he was a victim that from a young age suffered under his parents and his sister in verbal, psychological and physical abuse.

He almost had a normal life until Lucille was released upon coming of age and her taking him back with her as his guardian.

It wasn’t until the end that he was able to break free with his love and help from Edith.

And yes I’d say the death of Edith’s father trapped them both by Lucille.

Edith’s world was gone except for Alan and Thomas whom she loved. She could now marry Thomas as she had wanted.

Lucille would have lost her last victim and possibly Thomas as well. But by killing Carter she made it so Thomas could and would marry Edith and take her away instead of trying to stay and waste all his time on Edith instead of Lucille herself.

Lucille is still a selfish person and is doing all of this for herself while trying to make herself believe she is doing it for Thomas as well.

[allerdalexhall]

hi! i don’t know if this blog is still active or not but i had a question and thought why not try? so i was wondering how the townspeople never questioned the many wives thomas had. when they go to the post office the man has a letter for a mrs sharpe. but they mistakingly gave it to edith. did the other wives never go into town with thomas? sorry if this is weirdly worded it’s quite late here but i was so curious i couldn’t wait until morning.

its okay if you’re not active anymore! have a nice day either way!:)

No worries, and still active. One reason the town wouldn't catch on is the distance from the town the manor is. It's so far that they have to stay the night in town because it is considered dangerous to travel during storm and heavy snow due to being trapped and unable to walk the distance to safety if something happens. Alan is warned and told they can't take him to Allerdale cause of the blizzard and he chances it to on his own to go ahead. In the end this is why people show up the following day once the storm has died down enough.

As for the wives and confusing them, they were often too ill and soon killed after the money was handed over. Lucille mentions in the novel getting the finale papers and finishing it. The wives would be trapped due to health, weakness and very likely weather. I'm not certain, but I believe Thomas would wed each wife late in the year and they would arrive back at Allerdale near fall and into the start of winter so no one would see the woman and they'd be too ill or trapped by the snow Being too weak to run.

Add that they have barely any one still on staff and only working during the warm months, the woman wouldn't be seen and info about them wives themselves not shared. If caught and questioned, bad enough winter, they could say the wife fell ill and died that way.

From what I can tell with the addition of the novel, the fact Edith was becoming panicked seeing the ghosts and wanting to leave Allerdale Hall. Thomas suggests for her to go with him to the post office to get some air and none had planned for the couple to stay the night in town except a storm prevented them going home.

This is why Lucille freaks out on them when they show back up the next day and has a pretty good idea that they slept together.

The letters also happen to be labeled Lady E. Sharpe and since Edith and Enola both had an E, the confusion was made.

So from what little we know and have, this is best I can answer. If anyone else wants to add, you are quite welcome to.

[allerdalexhall]

((Submission)) Theory(idk if someone said it or it’s a fact but)

Why was Thomas’s ghost white at the final scenes of the movie? Well as we know all other ghosts and spirits have been portrayed as black, whispy, disturbing entities, like Edith’s mother, or they are broken, horrifying creatures made out of the red clay underneath the house. But in the final scenes of the film we see that Thomas ghost is actually white, unlike any we’ve seen so far. So why is this? Well I think it’s because Thomas has no attachment to anything or anyone. The other ghost/spirits all have a reason to haunt over the house and the people living there, Thomas and Lucilles mother; she was brutally killed by Lucile, Thomas’s past wives; also met the same end ergo Lucile and Thomas.

But when Thomas dies , he has no attachment. He told Edith that he did truly love her, he confronted Lucile and he was ready to leave his past behind.

Thomas had no reason to be a revenge seeking ghost. And that’s why he was a white ghost in the ending

Tell me what you think, just a theory (again idk if it has been said but I just thought it was cool)  -End of Submitted post- -Blog Holders Response-

Sorry for the late reply to this submission. Holidays make things so busy. I actually posted a theory similar, no idea if it was one you may have come across or not. I looked for the said post and it was actually a reblog that I commented on {X} The original response I made to a gif of Edith being embraced by her mother’s ghost 7 years ago in that link was as follows:

~ All she wanted was a hug and to love and cherish her little Edith and keep her safe. It takes so much to come back just to warn her and hold her. We don’t know how strong a ghost has to be to be solid enough to be seen and interact with things. It has to take so much will power and emotions to do it. Others just appear faintly in photos. But the strongest of emotions makes them solid and seen. Her love was what was so strong to bring her back to her daughter and warn her. Not just once, but twice! Not even her father pulled that off. We never saw him again. It’s the raw pure emotion that brings her to her daughter. The same with Lucille. Her love and hate and rage all together has her formed in Allerdale Hall. Two woman with two different forms of Love bringing them back from death. All the wives were full of fear and sorrow. Want to for freedom and stained as the clay of which they were surrounded by. Sorrow took over they’re after lives, forming them and giving them shape. Thomas was peace, happiness, and pure love. Each forming a different color to show what it meant. It appears Black is a strong emotional love and want, if not a rage with it. The person dying and having that emotion giving them strength to the point of returning. For Edith’s mother being taken so soon from her daughter and unable to hold and see her before her death. Lucille her rage and love fueling her beyond the grave. Red, sorrow and pain, along with the very color of the clay around them if not stained by it and the blood they shed in death upon their murders. The wives and baby buried in the clay of the mines and Lady Sharpe her own bloody bath, if not tainted with the red clay upon filling. White, a happy, pure love and acceptance if not peace. Some still lost don’t even appear. Just stay as shadows, unseen but in the shadows of a form. Or only in images, if not shadows in that as well. ~

It has been a theory of mine that the wives are Red greatly due to the clay they were buried in. Their ghosts appearing to change with the decay of their bodies hidden away. We don’t see this with Lady Sharpe though (Thomas and Lucille’s Mother). She is red, but only appears with the wounds inflicted upon her death by her daughter’s hands. It’s never said or shown where her body is laid after her death either. But we do know it was discovered by the police through the newspaper article that is shown. That gave me thoughts and theories to a connection to colors and emotions and manners of their deaths.  The wives were not a peace, they as well as Lady Sharpe are most likely full of rage, but the wives not as much. The appear to know they’re bodies are decaying away and what they look like. Hoping perhaps in passing one of the siblings will see them and instill fear or show what they have done. Perhaps also using the form as a warning to Edith of what cruel things Lucille has done. Thomas ever appears close to seeing the ghosts himself.  The way he speaks to Edith of ghosts through out the movie, in the book and the deleted scene where he appears to feel them around him. Even in the book he seems to feel them or glance them faintly.  Some ghosts take on more of their living selves as likely how they see themselves or wish to be seen. Some it is likely they have not the strength, skill, or both to appear and keep a form that is pleasing. I believe I have tweeted at the director in the past, but never got a reply in what the colors of the ghosts mean sadly. Something I would love to hear the story behind.

[forgottenghosty]

My original Thomas Sharpe Coat design was lost sadly, but I remade it to share and hopefully looks a bit more like the one in the movie.

All QR Codes work for not only Animal Crossing New Leaf, but also Animal Crossing New Horizons as well.

This is an updated new post of the original from years back {x}

I will try and see if I am able to make better versions in the future in Animal Crossing New Horizons. I am unsure how much better they’ll look, but I am also unsure if I can share them without an online subscription.

If anything I find it easier to make them in ACNL and online sites as they don’t let us use a stylus or touch screen in general to draw in ACNH. Unless that has changed and I hadn’t heard. I find it harder to design things using a controller then a stylus like in ACNL.

[allerdalexhall]

Why didn't Edith leave when they got to the post office after finding out that she was living in Crimson Peak as her mother warned her to be aware of it?

My best guess on this is since she didn't have enough information yet and hadn't caught on to what was happening she saw no reason to run and that she just need to keep working on getting to know her new family. As soon as she put it all together it was too late and the weather made it impossible to escape.

[allerdalexhall]

I recently read the biographies from Guillermo Del Toro and was confused about the ages of Lucille and Thomas Sharpe. There are some inconsistencies with the years and ages stated throughout the bios that don't make sense. Do you happen to know?

I'll do my best. Depending dates and ages can change depending on what you read. I am unsure if the writer of the Novel had the Guillermo's bios for his characters, but I know the actors did have them and they all worked on the bios while working on the movie. Lucille is stated as being the older sibling and Thomas as the younger.

Lucille's as April 1st, 1868. Thomas' as Feb 18, 1878.

My best guess is that he miss dated their ages. In movie, novel, Art Book Bios, and Guillermo's own copies of the bios Lucille is always said to be the older sibling.

Crimson Peak takes place for the most part during the year of 1901, so Thomas would be 23 and Lucille 33.

As the story was written it is likely that they changed who was older and who was younger and so on. So in the end, my guess that it is what happened and errors were made.

[marzipanandminutiae]

Lucille is only two years older in the movie- they were 12 and 14 when Beatrice was killed. And the paper clipping dates that to 1879, so they’re 34 and 36 in 1901

Personally I ignore details in the bios where they contradict the movie, because Thomas is clearly supposed to be older than Edith and those years would make him younger. And the actors for the Sharpes are almost the same age (as the characters and each other), so…yeah

[allerdalexhall]

True, many different things depending on what you see and read.

In the end we can all agree Edith is the youngest of the 3 and no matter his true age, Thomas is depicted as being more innocent and a submissive person where Lucille more in charge and dominant.

I personally have seen Thomas as the younger. He always felt more impressionable and had to go along with it all until he met Edith.

I didn’t know until looking into this question that Jessica (Lucille) is older then Tom (Thomas) by a small amount of years.

[allerdalexhall]

I recently read the biographies from Guillermo Del Toro and was confused about the ages of Lucille and Thomas Sharpe. There are some inconsistencies with the years and ages stated throughout the bios that don't make sense. Do you happen to know?

I'll do my best. Depending dates and ages can change depending on what you read. I am unsure if the writer of the Novel had the Guillermo's bios for his characters, but I know the actors did have them and they all worked on the bios while working on the movie. Lucille is stated as being the older sibling and Thomas as the younger.

Lucille's as April 1st, 1868. Thomas' as Feb 18, 1878.

My best guess is that he miss dated their ages. In movie, novel, Art Book Bios, and Guillermo's own copies of the bios Lucille is always said to be the older sibling.

Crimson Peak takes place for the most part during the year of 1901, so Thomas would be 23 and Lucille 33.

As the story was written it is likely that they changed who was older and who was younger and so on. So in the end, my guess that it is what happened and errors were made.

[allerdalexhall]

Why did Ediths mother warn her about Crimson Peak? How did she know what would happen in the future?

Not much is really known how ghosts could give premonitions in the movie, but it appears that not only Edith's mother, but Lucille and Thomas' mother as well was able to as her ghost appears to Edith as well and warns of how she will be the death of Thomas.

Though it isn't unheard of ghosts and spirits in mythology and lore to foretell of misfortunes for the living.

Often if a ghost was seen such as The White Lady or a Banshee, it was sign one was soon to die. Similar with the Dullahan, where the Banshee would wail signaling coming death, the Dullahan would be on horse back which carrying it's severed head that would speak the name of the person soon to die.

One can take Edith's mother's warning as such as these spirits, but I personally think of Edith's mother as still loving her daughter in death and upon having ability to glimpse future events went to warn her. A strong indication of this is the fact her mother, having been unable to comfort and touch her daughter in her last days of death due to illness, lays beside Edith and strokes her hair while trying to comfort her daughter after startling her upon her return as a ghost.

She is more urgent upon her second warning as Edith is about to truly fall in love with Thomas. A last effort to warn her.

In the end it is likely Guillermo drew from Ghost lore that many different parts of the world have, stories of ghosts warning the living in some fashion of tragedy and death before it occurs.

[local-ragamuffin]

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[allerdalexhall]

Yep, I try to answer any questions I see that appear in my box as soon as I see them ^^ I'm still a huge fan of the movie and still love and try to do posts for the page.

[allerdalexhall]

How old was edith as an adult in the movie

That one actually can be answered for certain! In the Art of Darkness, the Crimson Peak art book, there is a slip of paper with a short biography for Edith. There is also ones for other characters in the book as well. Guillermo del Toro was kind enough to tweet all the long versions later on his Twitter account as well. But yes, as to your question since Edith is canonically born Oct 9th, 1877 and the movie takes place in 1901 for when she is an adult, she would be likely 24. My guess is she would be 24 at least by the end of the movie as it is snowing. Though it can snow in some places in Oct, my guess is it is past Oct when the end of the movie takes place.

Edith was born on October 9, 1877, to Carter Elias Cushing and Eleanor Wyndham-beckford, Carter and Eleanor were from very different tiers o

[allerdalexhall]

Why did Ediths mother warn her about Crimson Peak? How did she know what would happen in the future?

Not much is really known how ghosts could give premonitions in the movie, but it appears that not only Edith's mother, but Lucille and Thomas' mother as well was able to as her ghost appears to Edith as well and warns of how she will be the death of Thomas.

Though it isn't unheard of ghosts and spirits in mythology and lore to foretell of misfortunes for the living.

Often if a ghost was seen such as The White Lady or a Banshee, it was sign one was soon to die. Similar with the Dullahan, where the Banshee would wail signaling coming death, the Dullahan would be on horse back which carrying it's severed head that would speak the name of the person soon to die.

One can take Edith's mother's warning as such as these spirits, but I personally think of Edith's mother as still loving her daughter in death and upon having ability to glimpse future events went to warn her. A strong indication of this is the fact her mother, having been unable to comfort and touch her daughter in her last days of death due to illness, lays beside Edith and strokes her hair while trying to comfort her daughter after startling her upon her return as a ghost.

She is more urgent upon her second warning as Edith is about to truly fall in love with Thomas. A last effort to warn her.

In the end it is likely Guillermo drew from Ghost lore that many different parts of the world have, stories of ghosts warning the living in some fashion of tragedy and death before it occurs.

[allerdalexhall]

What happened to Edith after the events of the film?

From what I can gather from the movie, novel, art book and what the director released of the bios on twitter, I’d say she became a writer and released the book Crimson Peak we see at the end of the movie.

As for if she remarried or not, that is up for debate.  Either you go with the hopes she possibly married Alan or another later on, or you take her words in the movie and novel to heart.

“Well, this parasite is perfectly charming and a magnificent dancer. But that wouldn’t concern you now, would it, Edith?” she added with asperity. “Our very own Jane Austen.”  “Mother,” Alan remonstrated her gently. 

“Though I believe she died a spinster.” Mrs. McMichael’s gaze was flinty, her mouth set in a tight, insincere smile.

“Mother please,” Alan said. “It’s quite all right, Alan,” Edith assured him. She met the older woman’s gaze full on. “I would prefer to be Mary Shelley,” she said sweetly. “She died a widow.” Savoring her sally, she took her leave.

Holder, Nancy. Crimson Peak: The Official Movie Novelization . Titan. Kindle Edition.

So if she took this to heart, she lived out her life as a widow and would not have remarried. Spending her life writing and publishing.

[allerdalexhall]

Whose originally was the supposedly stray dog?

The lovely Papillon belonged to Thomas' last wife before Edith, Enola. There is a photo of her with the dog in her lap and ball in hand.

A fun fact, the breed is a Papillon, which in french means butterfly - eared due to how it's ears appear like butterflies while up. When it's ears are down it's called Phalene, which in french is moth - eared.

This is another hidden butterfly and moth theme in the movie.

[allerdalexhall]

Thomas Sharpe biography

That can be found here -> https://allerdalexhall.tumblr.com/post/132911821447/the-biography-of-sir-thomas-sharpe-an

It is taken from the bio found in the Art of Darkness, the art book of Crimson Peak. A fuller version can be found by searching for the tweet from Guillermo Del Toro where he posted all the long bios for his characters to twitter. Hopefully at some point I will add it to the blog for easier access to see in its complete form.

[allerdalexhall]

When the ghost tells Edith his blood would be on her hands. What does it mean?

The ghosts are used as a warning mostly through out the movie. From Edith's mother warning Edith of Crimson Peak when she is a child and then again when she is an adult.

With this it uncertain if Ghosts can some how see into the future in the story, as they were all but children when Edith was first warned about Crimson Peak by her mother. Something that would later make sense when Edith found out it was the place of many murders and soon to be her own if she didn't take heed to the warning.

That being said, it is very likely the Ghost warning her in Allerdale Hall has the same ability. The Ghost is in fact Thomas and Lucille's mother and giving a for warning of what will soon pass.

It is due to Edith's love and actions with Thomas that he finally stands up to his sister Lucille. In doing so he is then killed in a fit of rage by his sister. His blood being literally spilled due to him trying to save Edith's life.

Two Ghosts, both mothers, warning Edith of the future.