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Would it be a hot take to say that Yoda likes being in control of things? To an almost problematic degree.

Not to me. If you’ve been following my blog for a while, you certainly know I’ve been openly critical of Yoda in the past. I don’t believe he is a bad person (or a bad character), but he is not this infallible, godlike Jedi that some believe him to be. I see him as flawed, not evil.

That being said, these days, saying that Star Wars characters are flawed can feel like a criminal offense—something that gets you cast out of the fandom. So yeah, some people will definitely see you pointing out that Yoda liked being in control and immediately scream “hater,” maybe even accuse you of ruining the fandom for them.

But again… yes, Yoda did have absolute control over the Jedi Order because of his position within it, and because deference to him was second nature to Temple-raised Jedi:

“Mace nodded silently. One did not argue with Master Yoda; in the Jedi Temple, this was learned in infancy. No Jedi ever forgot it.” — Mace Windu, Shatterpoint by Matthew Stover

And that also helps explain why Anakin had such a hard time bonding with Yoda—and vice versa.

dosz318

I don't think Anakin had trouble bonding with Yoda exactly.

He had trouble bonding with the Jedi as a whole because of their inability to accept him as he was.

Because of their detachment philosophy and their abandonment of his mother.

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Yoda made mistake with Anakin of course, but he also seems to be one of the most understanding of Anakin within the Order.

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Yoda was the one who praised Anakin ability to disobey the Council.

He did it in season 6 twice.

When he escaped the Temple with Anakin's help, and when (in a deleted scene) he encouraged Anakin to act to do what was best for Ahsoka.

"Friends, are we?"

"Disobeying the Council, your expertise is."

"What should I do Master Yoda?"

"What you always do. Act. And act quickly, or save your Padawan you may not."

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For someone as traditional, complacent and passive as Yoda (he probably became that way because he lived for nearly 900 years), to recognize and acknowledge Anakin's quality in rebellion and action-driven attitude, is to be commended.

Anakin is in many ways the opposite of Yoda.

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Yoda's season 6 arc also shows us a bit of Yoda's greatest desires for the Order.

We see that he wishes for peace. For the children to play carefree around the Temple.

For the untraditional Jedi who has felt rejected and abandoned (Ahsoka) to get along with the most traditional Jedi (Mace).

For the young (Gungi) to get along with the old (Tera Sinube).

For Qui-Gon to still be alive. For Dooku to not have fallen. For Dooku to speak fondly of his old days as Yoda's Padawan to Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan. (He wants the different generations to get along)

And for Anakin to not be isolated as he usually is, but to hang out with the other Jedi.

Yoda desires for peace and harmony, for everybody, no matter their differences to be included.

Yoda is not perfect, but he does his best to accept and include everybody.

And that is why Anakin went to him. He recognizes that Yoda is the one that accepts the most for who he is (after Ahsoka) within the Order.

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Speaking of which, Yoda was well aware of Anakin and Padmé's relationship. But he kept quiet, and unlike Obi-Wan, he never tried to seperate the two or lecture Anakin about it.

In season 6, during the Clovis/ICB arc, Yoda sensed Anakin's distrust of Clovis, and his dislike of the idea of Clovis working close to Padmé.

He did not go to Anakin about it. But he did mentioned it to Obi-Wan.

Obi-Wan, chose to imply right away to Anakin that his emotions were basically not valid, because he is attached to Padmé. He even finished the conversation with "friend you must remain".

Obi-Wan never made Anakin feel safe about his love for Padmé.

Meanwhile, when Anakin was going to Scipio to rescue Padmé, Yoda simply remarked that Anakin will face difficult emotions. He points out that Anakin was correct about Clovis (validating Anakin's opinion), but then also advise him to not let selfishness drive him so that he can see things clearly.

Yoda doesn't lecture Anakin, he gives him recognition, encourages him to do what he believes is right, while also advising him on what he should and shouldn't for the best of all.

That's why Anakin listens to Yoda but not Obi-Wan.

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And in Episode 3, when Anakin was desperate and sleep deprived, and already unwilling to speak to or ask for help from any Jedi, including Obi-Wan, he trusted Yoda enough to go to him.

It's speaks volume about how Yoda was the one Jedi who had manage to gain Anakin's respect and trust enough for him to open up to Yoda.

Unfortunately, Yoda accidentally gave the worst answer possible.

Yoda has learned long ago to rationalize loss. And while he was able to advice Ahsoka correctly in season 3, when she came to Yoda about her visions of Padmé being assassinated.

Yoda is wise enough to understand that the young cannot deal with loss like he does. But unfortunately he was grieving currently grieving Dooku, and failed to remember that what he was himself currently doing to deal his loss will not help Anakin.

However season 7, does show that Yoda was still worried about Anakin.

Yoda hoped for a message from Ahsoka to transmit to Anakin.

He hoped that news from Ahsoka would cheer Anakin up.

But Mace's attitude towards Ahsoka moments prior convinced her to keep quiet and wait.

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Anyway, sorry for the long rant, but I wanted to emphasize that Yoda may have been the Jedi who bonded the most with Anakin (in an healthy way) after Ahsoka.

anakin03986

I think the problem there is TCW doing a retcon. A understandable retcon but still a retcon. My reasoning being before tcw Anakin and Yoda had an explicitly bad relationship wether you pick movies, comics or 03 neither of them were particularly close and if anything Anakin had a closer relationship to anyone but Yoda. Even mace and Anakin had more respect for each other than Yoda had of Anakin and that was implied even in the movies. Yoda often was the first to basically say Anakin was problematic. Its weird but i feel tcw retconned this relationship purely to make Yoda more likeable in the show because in every other media including the movies anakin and Yoda couldn’t stand each other or didn’t have a respectful relationship on either side. I want to agree with the tcw version but it just doesn’t fit anywhere even in the movies as Yoda explicitly has no faith in Anakin and even tried to get rid of him

#yoda #anakin skywalker #meta:anakin #meta:yoda

Why Anakin Skywalker would have left much sooner if these two didn’t exists

Well more accurately if Padme didn’t exist as Obi-wan pushed it at times.

1. Anakin openly hates meditating because it hurts especially as a kid

“Anakin shook his head, caught between stubbornness and tears. “I don’t know what you want me to say.”

Mace took a shallow breath and closed his eyes. “Look inward, Anakin.”

“I don’t want to,” Anakin said breathlessly, his voice jerking. “I don’t like what I see.”

“Is it possible you see nothing more than the tensions of approaching adulthood?” Mace asked.

“No!” Anakin cried. “I see … too much, too much.”

“Too much what?”

“I burn like a sun inside!” The boy’s voice rang out in the chamber like a bell.

A moment of silence.

“Remarkable,” Mace Windu admitted. Curiously, a smile flickered on his lips. “And?”

“And I don’t know what to do with it. I want to run. It makes me reckless, so I seek sensation. I don’t blame any of you for—” He could not finish that sentence.

Obi-Wan felt the boy’s anguish like a small knife in his own gut.

Excerpt From

Rogue Planet

Greg Bear

2. Anakin we know was always frustrated with the jedi code and hated being the center of attention when it come to the chosen one.

“Ten years in this place, and still he was an object of interest. Of speculation. All their hopes and dreams hanging on him like decorations on a bantha skeleton at Boonta Eve. He hated it.” [Clone Wars: Wild space, Karen Miller]

3. He often felt frustrated because he felt he was being held back which we see many times.

4. Often disagreed with the council especially Yoda.

5. Had a lot of unhealed baggage not really helped by Yoda

‘… and Master, [Anakin]’s mother is dead.’ Yoda nodded, short and sharp. 'Yes. But mothers die, Obi-Wan.’ - KAREN MILLER [THE CLONE WARS: WILD SPACE]

6. Forced into helping a god damn Hutt save his kid over the hundreds of slaves that hutt owns

TCW movie

7. Openly being lied to often in one form or another whether it be the ghost prison or Obi-wan faking his death.

8. Obi-wan faking his death. I still personally call bs for Anakin somehow forgiving obi-wan for using his “uncontrolled emotions” to sell his death because they repeatedly lecture him on it both before and after this incident yet when it’s convenient they don’t complain

9. Ferus just Ferus Olin existing and being rude to Anakin for years

10 Soara

11 What happened to Ahsoka

12. Anakin dealing with constant stress and emotional guilt for him not being the best Jedi.

13. Him hating his visions and his connection to the Force causing him too much pain.

14. Anakin often needing to hide his heart

When they'd met, Anakin had been a warm-hearted nine-year-old boy with an open nature. He was twelve and a half now, and the years had changed him. He had grown to be a boy who hid his heart.

Jude Watson [Jedi Quest: The Way of the Apprentice]

15. Being not loved by any jedi outside of Obi-wan and Ahsoka

“Anakin was liked by the other students, but he had no close friends. He was not loved. Obi-Wan told himself that Anakin’s gifts naturally set him apart. But in his heart, he grieved for Anakin’s loneliness.”

Jude Watson [Jedi Quest: The Way of the Apprentice]

16 Wanting to be with Padme over the order.

17. Unknowns to him is often disrespected by other jedi behind his back with them either not trusting him, saying he is a bad influence to Ahsoka or them saying he is a shit Jedi.

I could go on but I just want to go over these reasons being the major ones.

And before anyone says Anakin should have just uh he has tried

Or suggested it again

And Again

“He looked at the ground. “Perhaps I spoke more strongly than I meant to.”

“That is not an answer.”

“Sometimes I don’t want to be the Chosen One,” Anakin said. The words broke free.

They felt like stones in his mouth.

“That’s not surprising,” Obi-Wan said. “Many gifts can be burdens.”

“The Force is so strong. I can feel it so much. I feel so much. I don’t want to feel so much!” Anakin hardly recognized his voice, choked and aching. Obi-Wan

looked startled at his vehemence. “Why am I chosen? Why is it me? Can’t I refuse it?

Can’t you let me refuse it? Can’t you take it away?”

“Anakin—“

“Take it from me. Please, Master.” Anakin wanted to fall to his knees. A deep tide

of feeling, of dread, had risen up within

“him and choked him. He felt tears in the

back of his

throat. Even his friend Tru was afraid for him. Just as Ferus was. Just as his own

Master was, the person who knew him the best.

What do they see that I cannot?

The sudden panic shocked him. It had sprung up so abruptly. He hadn’t meant to say

what he had said. He hadn’t even known he had been feeling it. Now it felt like the

truest thing he

had ever said. The dread was always there. He lived with it, but he didn’t understand

it. He just wanted it to go away.

The depth of Obi-Wan’s shock and compassion showed in his eyes, in the way he gently

placed his hands on Anakin’s shoulders. “My Padawan. I would do anything for you.

I would bear your burdens for you if I could. But I cannot.”

Anakin bowed his head. The panic and fear whirled inside him, and he was ashamed.

Obi-Wan bent closer to speak softly. He did not release his grip on Anakin’s shoulders.

“But I will help you. I will always help you. I will not leave you.”

Excerpt From

Jedi Quest 7

Jude Watson

And again

“No, here! Exactly here.” He drew her against him again, effortlessly overpowering her halfhearted resistance. “I’m tired of the deception. Of the sneaking and the lying. We have nothing to be ashamed of! We love each other, and we are married. Just like trillions of beings across the galaxy. This is something we should shout, not whisper—”

“No, Anakin. Not like all those others. They are not Jedi. We can’t let our love force you out of the Order—”

“Force me out of the Order?” He smiled down at her fondly. “Was that a pun?”

“Anakin—” He could still make her angry without even trying. “Listen to me. We have a duty to the Republic. Both of us—but yours is now so much more important. You are the face of the Jedi, Anakin. Even after these years of war, many people still love the Jedi, and it’s mostly because they love you, do you understand that? They love the story of you. You’re like something out of a bedtime tale, the secret prince, hidden among the peasants, growing up without ever a clue of his special destiny—except for you it’s all true. Sometimes I think that the “that the only reason the people of the Republic still believe we can win the war is because you’re fighting it for them—”

“And it always comes back to politics for you,” Anakin said. His smile had gone now. “I’m barely even home, and you’re already trying to talk me into going back to the war—”

“She shook her head. “What are we going to do?”

“We’re going to be happy, that’s what we’re going to do. And we’re going to be together. All three of us.”

“But—”

“No.” He laid a gentle finger on her lips, smiling down at her. “No buts. No worries. You worry too much as it is.”

“I have to,” she said, smiling through the tears in her eyes. “Because you never worry at all.”

Revenge of the Sith

Matthew Stover

And again

Yet often he is either rebuffed or can’t do it because of guilt or because some people (looking at you Yoda) don’t even give him the choice

Karen Miller Wild Space

I find it funny that people say Anakin could have left any time but often times when Anakin wanted to leave or tried to leave Obi-wan and Padme basically told him not to do it because of his destiny or to help people. Its very hard to leave something when people you are close to often rebuff you or convince you not to. I could look for more but I am tired and just will wait and see how this post goes.

#anakin skywalker #star wars meta #obi wan kenobi #master yoda #Padme appreciation post #tcw #Youtube #jedi order #meta:anakin #meta:padme #meta:obi wan #ramblings

farmboy1

For me it is very interesting to see how Anakin reacts to Padme’s agency in comparison to Han or even Luke regarding Leia and Mara’s agency.

It shows that even if they didn’t have to marry in secret their relationship is doomed to fail.

anakin03986

I disagree that their relationship was doomed to fail. I also want to point out multiple things happen if Padme and Anakin never got together.

For one if Anakin didn’t marry Padme then uh Anakin just straight up dips the order lolol. Anakin hates being a jedi by this point because of multiple reasons not just Padme being his wife so without Padme coaching him through it then he is leaving probably around Jabiim if not earlier than Anakin either becomes a pilot, engineer or just straight up gets turned faster by Palpatine because there is nothing the Jedi have that would make Anakin want to stay. Anakin is sick of lies, sick of the Jedi not being paragons of good, surpressing his emotions and treating him unfairly. So if Padme is not around then Anakin straight up just walks away. Not even Obi-wan or Ahsoka are enough for him to stat.

Also Anakin has respected Padme’s agency plenty of times before so i am not too sure if this scene is the most accurate for their relationship considering Anakin complained about the secrecy more in legends and even in ROTS was straight up like i don’t care if we get caught. Padme was often the more likely to keep the secrecy.

Plus if they never got married no Luke and Leia. Pretty simple.

And if Anakin is no longer in the picture then the war ends faster by the republic just collapsing as Anakin was one of the biggest pillars sustaining it both because of his actions and because palpatine was doing the equivalent of a pressure cooker for Vader. Literally its stated more than once Anakin was basically being engineered to get stronger in the war so if he is out of the picture then uh not a bright future for the Jedi

On top of that the jedi never find out Palpatine is Sidious because you know Anakin.

Finally even if Anakin stays then there is a high likelihood that Anakin just dies because uh his motivation outside of Padme is kind of borderline none existent. Anakin will be far more likely to get himself killed or be more reckless because there is no real motivation Anakin has outside of Padme and maybe Ahsoka but even then I don’t see Anakin surviving this war because his motivation is gone.

Anyway you slice it Anakin and Padme not being together is literally arguably a worst case scenario for the galaxy. There is no upsides for the republic or the order unlike what people think because here is the thing. So much stuff is either prevented, fixed, or delayed because Padme is with Anakin. You remove her from the picture then the empire is straight up created earlier and completely unopposed because as strong as the rebellion gets uh… there is no one stopping Vader or Palpatine.

If anyone disagrees come on in.

#star wars legends #secrets of the jedi #anakin skywalker #padme amidala #anakin x padme #a little off topic

After reading the first Jedi quest book I can officially say I don’t like Ferus at all. Ferus seems a bit overconfident at times and to be essentially too cautious.

Anakin was not helping manners but he was trying to be reasonable. Then we have Ferus basically implying that Anakin was a selfish a hole by comparing him to an evil selfish bastard scientists.

The problem is that Anakin unlike the scientists had a point and basically nearly screwed up the mission because Ferus plan had a major miscalculation that he didn’t account for. Anakin also did learn the lesson but Ferus for some reason claims he didn’t and is just like the asshole scientists.

Anakin is more so questioning if it was a good idea to listen to Ferus because Ferus screwed up and didn’t even apologize or acknowledge to Anakin he screwed up.

I’ll explain more details in a edit

#anakin skywalker #ferus olin #jedi quest #star wars meta

Is it weird to get randomly depressed because a lot of your friends you made throughout the years sort of vanished or you’re too shy to talk to after so long? I have just been dealing with that a lot and idk how to feel or do about it….

#sad thoughts #depression #idk how to tag this

I feel both Satine and her sister Bo are not that well written, are hypocritical and are just bad leaders.

To start if I know what tcw was trying to go for but I feel it failed in execution.

I feel to start things off Satine has a bit questionable government as far as it being mostly people who are a bit too white and blue eyed to not be a little concerning. As it took 7 seasons to have a mandalorian who wasn’t strictly white?(Image shown below)

Now people may say this is a mere coincidence I must remind people that two episode villains Mandalore had to face were drug dealers who happened to be aliens and Maul and his alien criminal organizations. Not very friendly ngl.

Satine also openly wants Mandalore to be independent yet heavily relies outside help every single time she is dealing with a crisis of some kind. Obi-wan had to save her multiple times from assassination, framed for murder, rescue from a prison and helping in investigation. Same with Padme who helped solve her problems with the children being poisoned by the school drinks. Ahsoka and some teenagers saved her from a coup orchestrated by her own prime minister. Satine doesn’t really show off that much independence.

Her government is a bit pathetic as well as far as her guards not being up to par with other mandalorians and their armor. Plus them needing to rely on the black market as well which is just begging for trouble. She also was dealing with steep corruption from her prime minister, to one of the members of her council and senator , and one of the governors. Those are all high ranking positions and all could have overthrown her if they all just work together and there would be nothing she could do stop it.

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She could have died easily to Tal because she couldn’t stand to shoot him in self defense. He was going to blow up that is not the time to have a morale dilemma

She also had no qualms when Padme was being violent and aggressive

Her reign was so weak the people chose literal known terrorist who bombed their capital city. That either tells you the people are dumb or we’re too fed up with Satine both show weakness on her part.

Finally she also exiled the death watch to one of the moons and they explicitly were thought to have died out that is a bit screwed up for a pacifist especially since Satine doesn’t address the matter or say anything to suggest regret.

And Bo Katan is even worse she was part of a terrorist organization that was hell bent on killing Satine or at best overthrowing her. That is not a simple clash of ideals. Bo is actively trying to get her sister killed and burn everything she built to the ground yet we are meant to forget this fact because they started working together off screen?

Bo also did questionable things to Ahsoka and helped try to burn a village to the ground. Did nothing when her boss killed an innocent girl too.

She also ended up overthrowing the government.

Now the scene that made me the most frustrated and felt Bo was being a hypocrite was the scene where she basically declares Maul unfit to rule because an outsider aka alien. That already comes off as a little xenophobic. But what is worse this is after Vizla made a deal with Maul that whoever wins gets Mandalore. We know warriors mandalorians value honor and violence with Maul winning fair and square with no force abilities besides doing a force leap in the fight. Maul won the fight and gained the right to rule Mandalore yet she said no after he won because he is not mandalorian? That is an insult to both mandalorians and her leader Vizla who died with pride saying “Only the strongest shall rule” that is just stupid and hypocritical.

She then asked the Jedi for help and instead of them, rightfully arresting or telling her to leave and deal with it, they decide to help her because they are the “good guys.” That always bothered me.

She even went to Mandalore and was told by Almec that the mandalorian would be mad at her and she ignored it with Ahsoka for some reason praising her. This implies two things the mandalorian people actually like maul and Bo is doing yet another hostile take over.

She also ends up losing her leadership thrice over the following decades with her needing help each time.

Idk I just struggle with both sisters.

#bo katan kryze #anti bo katan #star wars meta #star wars rebels #tcw #mandalore #star wars mandalorian #the mandalorian #anti satine kryze #satine kryze #duchess satine #ahsoka tano #darth maul #obi wan kenobi #padme naberrie

Hot take that I feel shouldn’t be a hot take. So long as Palpatine exists then Vader exists. If any fanfic writer wants Anakin to not fall get rid of Palpatine or minimize his influence over Anakin.

Palpatine has always been the reason Vader exists he is not the sole reason but 60-70 percent of it. Palpatine has tried breaking Anakin over and over again. It doesn’t matter if Anakin was raised as a Jedi from a child, he will turn to the dark side. How do I know this? Because Palpatine having an interest in Anakin and talking to him is never stopped by anyone in both continuities.

Yoda stared at the floor, both hands grasping his gimer stick. There was no easy answer to that. Yes, he was concerned by Palpatine’s attachment to the boy. No matter how well-meaning, no matter how genuine and heartfelt, the Supreme Chancellor’s care for Obi-Wan’s apprentice was problematic. The root cause of all young Skywalker’s difficulties was his need for emotional connections. His friendship with Palpatine only complicated matters. But the man was Supreme Chancellor. And he meant well. Sometimes politics had to take precedence. [Karen Miller. Star Wars: The Clone Wars: Wild Space]( credit to @padawanlost)

You need to get rid of him and have the Jedi be more stern.

A lot of people fail to bring up as well that Palpatine has turned Jedi that were raised in the temple from birth. Dooku being a prime example and he was a legend among the Jedi. How in the world is Anakin suppose to not turn? Make sure she doesn’t fall in love with Padme then Palpatine will make these rituals stronger

During the Clone Wars, Palpatine conducted Sith rituals on Coruscant that radiated unnerving ripples in the Force, which caused anxiety among most Jedi throughout the galaxy, but also served to increase Anakin Skywalker's hunger for power.

--The Ultimate Visual Guide: Updated and Expanded

This is confirmed in legends to be going on and tcw is not helping manners by showing Palpatine doing rituals too. I am just curious how anyone thinks Palpatine isn’t a major influence with Anakin’s psyche. He groomed and made him exactly what he needed him to be. Writers have to do a lot to stop that from happening. This is not to say Anakin can’t remain good if Palpatine is around. It’s just your fighting an uphill battle. I feel people must realize that Palpatine is not gonna be suddenly walled by Anakin’s upbringing. If it was that big of a deal then Palpatine wouldn’t have so many dark siders in the empire. I feel a lot of pro Jedi miss this part because they don’t realize that the Jedi shouldn’t have the Jedi given Palpatine any leeway. The moment they did Anakin was Palpatine’s monster simple as that. I know a lot of people are hesitant to say that because it sounds insane but keep in mind Palpatine is a master manipulator that owns both sides of the galaxy anything he says to either side goes so if Palpatine wants to get rid of any good influence on Anakin then he will or at worst turn Anakin against them.

#jedi order #pro anakin #emperor palpatine #sheev palpatine #yoda #mace windu

Hot take Anakin especially in the EU was not treated fairly by the Jedi from the start and was continuously and continuously treated different from other Jedi. I will argue this forever. Part 1 maybe?

I am not arguing the jedi order deserve what happened I am just going to be arguing maybe they shouldn't have treated Anakin like he was a danger to everyone from the get go.

Like Anakin, I was well past infancy when I began my training at the Jedi Temple. There was much concern about whether I was too old to learn the ways of the Force, that my Cerean childhood might cloud my judgments, but … I am not certain of how to express myself. My mind tells me I should feel empathy for Anakin, but my instinct tells me something else. [Ki-Adi-Mundi in Ryder’s Windham’s Jedi vs. Sith: The Essential Guide to the Force]

What disturbs me most of all is Anakin Skywalker himself. It is not in my nature to make assumptions about anyone based on appearance, and yet I find it almost alarming that the boy looks so entirely unremarkable. If I didn’t know better, I would have dismissed him as a harmless raga-muffin. [Ki-Adi-Mundi in Ryder’s Windham’s Jedi vs. Sith: The Essential Guide to the Force] (credit to @padawanlost)

Here Ki-Adi straight up is weary of Anakin and disturbed by his existence apparently despite Anakin not doing anything to warrant that. On top of Anakin feeling like this even years later. The Jedi Council didn’t want me, either. Being the Chosen One didn’t count for anything. Master Yoda wouldn’t train me, or Windu. Every member of the Jedi Council had had something more pressing to do than help him work out what this terrible, galaxy-changing power of his meant, and how he should live in its shadow. He still wasn’t sure. Anakin recalled standing there in that grand, polished Jedi Council Chamber, surrounded by what felt like fear, and disdain, and bewilderment—who were those Masters to feel bewildered, when he was the one uprooted from everything he knew and told he had a destiny?—and feeling that the only person there who cared if he lived or died was Master Qui-Gon Jinn. [Karen Traviss. The Clone Wars] (credit to @padawanlost)

People will argue "Oh that's just in Anakin's head making assumptions again" but its not in fact Anakin has a good reason to assume thanks to this moment

"The boy is *dangerous* they can all sense it why can't you?" from Obi-wan Kenobi himself

He doesn't say his potential is dangerous or his power is dangerous or that he could become dangerous. How is Anakin suppose to interpret that in any other way? This is Anakin's first real moments of seeing the Jedi

Here is something no one ever brings up that is really shady from Yoda when you think about it. For context the jedi council agreed to have Obi-wan train Anakin but Yoda does not say that immediately. He inserts his opinion that Anakin's training will go badly and heavily implies that Anakin's training was not approved by the council. Obi-wan doubled down and said he would train Anakin anyways. And Yoda says finally the council agrees. Now imagine Obi-wan had backed down after that? Or said "All right I won't train him because you said so"? Isn't that a little screwed up that Yoda put his opinion on the matter first to potentially influence Obi-wan's opinion on the manner? Yoda did not have to do that yet still chose to insert his opinion first then say what the council agreed to.

The Jedi order have also have treated Anakin differently for things that are not in Anakin's control for two prime examples

The Jedi are afraid of Anakin's power because they think they might have control over which ironically fits right in with what Palpatine has said about the Jedi being afraid of him. Its also something Anakin has no control over considering he had the power when he was born. And the other quote straight up says some Jedi in the council(I would argue its something Plo Koon or possibly Shaak Ti are the ones who have that problem) thinks Anakin losing his arm took away parts of his humanity which is a bit screwed up because Anakin did not ask to lose his arm. That is entirely Dooku's fault that the Jedi conveniently never mention or judge Dooku on.

I will also argue that the Jedi particularly Yoda specifically likes picking and choosing who he wants Anakin to get along with regardless of Anakin's opinion or consent on the matter. The most famous of these examples:

Yoda assigned Ahsoka to be trained under Anakin forgoing Anakin's consent on the manner even though almost every other Jedi picked their padawans themselves and trained them. A bit convenient on Yoda and the council to ignore that fact. Yes it turned out great sort of for the most part but that is a little shady of Yoda to do.

Another example is Yoda straight up saying that Anakin does not need a friends after losing his mother and his arm. And basically orders Obi-wan to be a teacher first and never a friend which is not good at all. ‘… and Master, [Anakin]’s mother is dead.’ Yoda nodded, short and sharp. ‘Yes. But mothers die, Obi-Wan.’ [Karen Miller. Star Wars: The Clone Wars: Wild Space](credit to @padawanlost)

Yoda’s stare was bleak. “Great are the challenges your Padawan will face. To be his friend your heart will urge you. But Obi-Wan, a mistake that would be. A friend young Skywalker does not need. A Master he needs, and a Master you must be.”

“I understand,” Obi-Wan replied, and took his leave. But as he made his long way to the Halls of Healing, he realized it wasn’t advice he was prepared to take. [Karen Miller. Star Wars: The Clone Wars: Wild Space](credit to @padawanlost)

That is not how grief works Yoda!

Speaking of Shmi there is also an example of the Jedi order straight up not letting her or Anakin talk to another or even know how the other is doing besides being well.

Watto came back from a trip to Mos Eisley today with bad news. He told me that Qui-Gon Jinn had been killed in a battle on a world called Naboo. No one knows whether he had a boy with him, but I’m terrified, Annie. Do I still have a reason to keep this diary?

Watto keeps saying that I should never have let you go, that you would have been better off staying his slave on Tatooine. I can’t allow myself to believe that … Qui-Gon promised me he would take care of you, that he would train you as a Jedi, so I must trust that you are still all right. But who is watching after you? Who will train you now? Annie, I’m so worried.

[…]

Still no word from the Jedi Council about what happened at the Battle of Naboo. Watto is beside himself with fury, complaining that if I can spend a hundred credits to send a message, then the Jedi can spend a hundred credits to answer. It worries me that it’s taking them so long. Three days should be long enough to figure out whether you were at Naboo, and whether you’re still alive.

[…]

The entries for the next few months ran in much the same vein—though many had been destroyed by the data skips Silya had mentioned. Anakin’s mother put up a brave front, recounting day-to-day events as a matter of faith that her son had survived and would one day hear them. But she also continued to search for news of his fate. One spacer reported hearing that there had been a boy at the battle, another a wild tale about the boy actually striking the critical blow.

Anakin’s mother even spent what remained of her meager savings on a HoloNet news search, which yielded only the unsettling news that a boy had been seen shortly before the battle in the presence of the “slain Jedi Knight.” Few other details were available, for the Jedi Council was remaining even more reticent than usual about the incident.

[…]

Shmi seemed to believe that Watto genuinely missed the boy. Leia had trouble accepting this, but was forced to at least allow for the possibility when Shmi reported that Watto had actually made a gift to her of the ten credits she had borrowed to help pay for her message to the Jedi Council.

[…]

An administrator on Coruscant had finally replied to Shmi’s ’Net message: Anakin was well, but the Jedi did not discuss the activities of their Padawans even with parents. Even that was enough to elate Shmi. [Tatooine Ghost by Troy Denning] (credit to @padawanlost)

They never tell Anakin about this despite Anakin being explicitly worried about his mother and missing her.

Here is one second to last example of how Yoda very much manipulated and tried to break a relationship that being Padme and Anakin's relationship. I don't know how you can justify it or argue this isn't a bit screwed up.

Karen Miller [The Clone Wars: Wild Space]

Yoda straight up tries to break Anakin's relationship without having Anakin's say on the manner which I feel is something that I feel most people would agree is f*** up. Also Anakin is never implied to know about this stuff by the way.

And what angers me most is one of Obi-wan's reasonings and Yoda's is Anakin's destiny with the chosen one prophecy. A prophecy both Mace and Yoda disregard the moment that Anakin does something they don't like.

Meaning that if they were correct every single manipulation and change they tried to make to better Anakin was basically useless. That just angers me a lot. Especially since lastly Yoda was perfectly ok with Palpatine's relationship with Anakin.

And Yoda allowed it purely because it did not suit Yoda to oppose the supreme chancellor and that Palpatine "meant well". Do I even need to say it?

And the thing that really frustrates me the most is how Yoda in TCW does this.

(I don't love TCW when it does retcons but this feels to in line with Yoda's behavior a bit)

Anyways to make a long story short the Jedi Oder and Yoda especially really did not treat Anakin well at all and I'll bring up more examples in part 2 if this gets good traction. Also if people want to argue about these examples are Yoda and the Jedi Order being out of character by all means try to show more examples of the Jedi Order being grateful to Anakin in the EU and how it somehow it outweighs this stuff. Because to be honest I feel the Jedi should not have influenced Anakin's life or treated Anakin so poorly because it just put Anakin in a situation where this guy became his only logical mentor.

#anakin skywalker #pro anakin #jedi #jedi order #sw meta #padme amidala #padme naberrie #tcw #sheev palpatine #shmi skywalker #master yoda #obi wan kenobi #star wars legends #star wars eu #star wars expanded universe

sannin-three

This line from Hiruzen is brief but it says so much about the way Konoha operates. In this panel, Naruto is 12, but because he graduated from the academy and earned his headband, by Konoha standards he is now an adult. Following this logic that means that Itachi, the Sannin, and Kakashi, who graduated at ages 7, 6, and 5 respectively, would have also been regarded as adults. I don't think I need to explain why that's fucked up.

But what makes it worse is that it reminds me of another scene:

Kawarama Senju was only 7 when he died, but being a Shinobi meant Butsuma and the other adult ninjas viewed him as an adult. Hashirama and Madara formed Konoha in part to stop this attitude because they'd seen how badly it impacted their own families...but it took relatively little time for this practice to return, enforced by one of Hashirama's followers no less.

The more things change, the more they stay the same.

ajfbgkdjfg

Hashirama was so insistent that there should be no child soldiers, then made an academy specifically to train children to become soldiers and allowed them to graduate at 12?? and made no immutable laws to prevent child soldiers? the idea for Konoha was great but having the main 3 options for first Hokage being a racist, an extremist, and an idealist with no political leadership skills lowkey killed Konoha's main goal in its cradle

anakin03986

Actually that was Tobirama not Hashirama it’s explicitly noted the second hokage made the academy out of necessity. Also Hashirama does have leadership skills.

#senju tobirama #hashirama senju

josephsaturn

I think that “Anakin was a slave child who was groomed by Palpatine and raised by someone who wasn’t ready to take on a child, thereby leaving him in a social limbo state where he’s surrounded by people but only has a few close confidants, with the one he trusts the most actively trying to take advantage of him”

and

“Anakin was taught right from wrong from a young age, first by his mother and then by Kenobi, but any time he was presented with a choice, actively CHOSE WRONG EVERY SINGLE TIME”

are two sentences that can, should, and MUST coexist to fully understand Anakin Skywalker as a character

anakin03986

I don’t personally agree with this as Shmi and Obi-wan’s versions of right and wrong are contradictory. What Obi-wan say is wrong is something Shmi would consider right. There are plenty of examples out there of Obi-wan both contradicting lessons. One would say love is good and the other would say it’s natural but it’s not good for you. One would say to save people and the other would pick to save the ones you can and don’t waste your time with risks.

#anakin skywalker #pro anakin #feel free to disagree #shmi skywalker #obi wan kenobi

kellouko

So I was digging at my old files and I found a Christmas short story that I wrote long ago but never post anywhere (don’t even ask why 😂). So that gave me the inspiration to wrote a short story - based on this one - in the spy x family universe.

The story is going to be 4 chapters and I am planning to publish the first chapter near Christmas (don’t know the exact date right no but we will see I guess).

Let me know your thoughts. Should I give it a try, although I am sucking at writing fluff? 😂

UPDATE: Prologue is up ❤️

#cute #forger family #spy x family manga

pictures-of-dogs

日光浴　bathe in the sun

Cute and adorable

Ok um, one thing I saw rather recently and it's basically blowing my mind and it's the fact there are at least around 30 statements on Anakin being the strongest jedi/warrior/sith either of all time or in his era. None of them say he is potentially the strongest jedi or that he could be they just outright says he is. I am not going to post all of them but the majority

Clearly Anakin was as strong in the Force as any Jedi who had ever sat on the Council. But as Obi-Wan had told him time and again, the essence of being a Jedi didn't hinge on attaining mastery of the Force, but on attaining mastery over oneself.

(Obi-Wan Kenobi | Star Wars: Labyrinth of Evil)

But Coruscant was not only the heart of the government and the location of the Galactic Senate. It was also the home of the Jedi Temple. As the Separatist attack began, a message was beamed to the Outer Rim, summoning the Jedi’s greatest warriors home. Before the Separatist fleet could leave the Coruscant star system with the Chancellor, they found themselves under attack. Waves of clone starfighters, led by Obi-Wan and Anakin, stormed around their ships.

(Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith junior novelization)

This is Anakin Skywalker: The most powerful Jedi of his generation. Perhaps of any generation. The fastest. The strongest. An unbeatable pilot. An unstoppable warrior. On the ground, in the air or sea or space, there is no one even close. He has not just power, not just skill, but dash: that rare, invaluable combination of boldness and grace. He is the best there is at what he does. The best there has ever been. And he knows it.

(Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith adult novelization)

"It will be," he said slowly, meditatively, as though he spoke only to himself, "an embarrassment to be captured by him." The voice that answered him was so familiar that sometimes his very thoughts spoke in it, instead of in his own. "An embarrassment you can survive, Lord Tyranus. After all, he is the greatest Jedi alive, is he not? And have we not ensured that all the galaxy shares this opinion?"

(Dooku and Palpatine | Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith adult novelization)

"Skywalker is arguably the most powerful Jedi alive, and he is still getting stronger."

(Mace Windu | Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith adult novelization)

"We won't try, Anakin. We will do. After all, they are only Senators. Most of them couldn't hide what they're thinking from a brain-damaged blindworm, let alone the most powerful Jedi in the galaxy."

(Palpatine | Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith adult novelization)

"And even if the prophecy has been misread. Anakin is the one Jedi we can best hope would survive an encounter with a Sith Lord."

(Agen Kolar | Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith adult novelization)

Even after all these months, she couldn't make herself entirely believe that actual Jedi blood ran in her veins-not only Jedi blood, but the blood of arguably the most powerful Jedi in history.

(Leia Organa | Star Wars: Luke Skywalker and the Shadows of Mindor)

"You are on this Council, but we do not grant you the rank of Master." "What? How can you do this? This is outrageous! It's unfair! I'm more powerful than any of you. How can you be on the Council and not be a Master?" It was a boy's expression of anger, but it was true. And, as history repeated itself because it had no other choice, Jacen was more powerful than any of them except Luke. And he was growing closer to Luke's strength by the day.

(Jacen Solo | Star Wars: Legacy of the Force - Bloodlines)

"Haden has written a story that goes to the emotional core of everything that happens in Episode III. Obi-Wan must confront every doubt, every misgiving about his time with Anakin. Has he failed his Padawan? Has he missed opportunities? Is he even worthy to have been the mentor to the galaxy's most powerful Jedi?"

(Randy Stradley | Star Wars Insider 79 - Clone Wars Villains Face Their Reckoning)

Gillard also reports that the duel will explain how Obi-Wan is able to defeat his protege, even though Anakin has been established as the most powerful Jedi who ever lived. "Obi-Wan taught Anakin and Anakin has gone past him," he notes. "But when you get to that duel, it's emotional. That's where the mistake will be made. And if you know the characters, you know Obi-Wan isn't going to get emotional and he doesn't make mistakes."

(Dreamwatch #113 - Interview with Nick Gillard)

"Anakin's the most powerful Jedi around."

(Justin Lambros | Disney Adventures: Super Comics Special May 2005)

Many years from now, Luke and Leia Skywalker, offspring of the most powerful Jedi who ever lived, would understand their true destiny.

(Star Wars Revenge of the Sith - The Movie Storybook)

"Anakin's style has changed completely between Episode II and Episode III. He now no longer cares. He knows he's unbeatable. He's far more dangerous than anybody in the universe."

(Nick Gillard | Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith - Prima Official Game Guide)

Anakin Skywalker is the most powerful Jedi in over a thousand years.

(Star Wars: Miniatures - Ultimate Missions - Revenge of the Sith)

This makes Anakin, in effect, a Jedi Master, a rank that Anakin, with his unprecedented power in the Force, feels has been long overdue.

(Star Wars: Miniatures - Ultimate Missions - Revenge of the Sith)

Anakin Skywalker was the most powerful Jedi the galaxy had ever known . . . Anakin was also peerless in combat, invincible against any opponent.

(Star Wars: The Official Figurine Collection #8)

Thus, Darth Vader becomes a ‘fallen angel’ figure. From being the most powerful Jedi, a fearless hero of the Republic, Anakin falls to the lowest possible point because of his desire for power and security.

(Star Wars: The Official Figurine Collection #12)

Deep and layered are the schemes of the Dark Lord Sidious, Sith Master and architect of the fall of the Republic. Perceiving in young Anakin Skywalker a strength as yet unseen among even the greatest of the Jedi, the Sith Lord engineers elements into his plans, rich in contingencies, that might either turn the troubled Jedi to his own purpose, or else destroy him altogether.

(Star Wars: Sideshow Collectibles - Asajj Ventress statue)

Darth Sidious adheres to a tradition of secrecy imposed by the Sith a thousand years before, working his evil schemes through intermediaries and dupes while remaining hidden in the shadows. His organization includes politicians and anarchists, crime lords and corrupt law enforcement, schemers and dreamers, the wealthy and the impoverished-and, as the war draws to a close, the most powerful Jedi Knight alive: Anakin Skywalker.

(Star Wars: The Clone Wars Campaign Guide)

The mightiest of the Jedi is Anakin Skywalker, rumored to be the Chosen One destined to bring balance to the Force.

(Star Wars: The Clone Wars Episode Guide)

Skywalker was seduced by the dark side of the Force. His boundless abilities fueled a sense of pride that hastened his fall . . . Palpatine elevated himself to the position of Emperor, and dispatched Vader as his ultimate enforcer. With his unparalleled Force abilities, Vader swept through the Jedi Temple.

(Official Star Wars Website - Databank: Darth Vader)

Here is a kicker there is this statement repeated 3 separate times by 3 Revenge of the sith related material implying this line was suppose to in the movie because you do not just repeat this line 3 times without a higher up wanting you to put it there in all 3 sources people are going to read

"Lord Vader, your skills are unmatched by any Sith before you. Go forth, my boy. Go forth, and bring peace to our Empire."

(Palpatine | Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith adult novelization)

"Lord Vader, your skills are unmatched by any Sith before you," the cloaked figure said. “Now go, and bring peace to the Empire."

(Palpatine | Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith junior novelization)

"You have done well, my new apprentice. Your skills are unmatched by any Sith before you. Now go, Lord Vader, and bring peace to the Empire."

(Darth Sidious | Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith comic)

As the Clone Wars rage across the galaxy, young Jedi hero Anakin Skywalker falls to the dark side of the Force and becomes the most powerful enemy ever faced by the Jedi.

(Hasbro Star Wars - Revenge of the Sith action figure line)

Like for anyone wanting to argue Yoda or Mace are stronger than Anakin and could beat him in a fight you have to argue somehow all the people involved in this were exaggerating each and every time and that somehow no one else rained in or said they couldn't say that and let them license those statements. I don't know about anyone else but if an author, series creator, or licensed material says something over a dozen times about their character when does that statement stop being a mistake they might have made and start becoming an actual fact in their universe?

luciende

Stupid people I see all the time: bUt lUke/OBi-wAn is the sTronGest/er

Me: you imbecile, you absolute uncultured swine

smilechiales

To be fair though, isn't Luke considered stronger in legends (not Canon, the movies, ect.)? If not, then I'm totally mistaken but this was told to me many times ^^

anakin03986

Luke is stronger because he is in his prime which Anakin didn't get but if Anakin had a few more years he would. Essentially Luke had more opportunities but to make it clear this is Luke long after return of the Jedi though some people argue by ROTJ for some reason.

smilechiales

Yep, that makes sense. Luke in The Mandalorian was basically what Anakin could have been If he never had been turned into Vader

anakin03986

Actually I feel Luke needs to be in his Kylo Ren flashback to be stronger. As Anakin can replicate what Mando Luke did. Still very impressive but I am not sure that Luke did something no high level Jedi could.

#anakin skywalker #luke skywalker #pro anakin #Both are still great #no disrespect intended #luke is still a goat just not sure if he is the goat with what he did there alone.#If we saw more of him i would say definitely but they teased us