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Finally I got my first Funko pop figurine)
I chose Padme from the first episode in the image of the Queen of Naboo, because when I first watched SW, when I was five years old, for some reason this image just "hit me in the head" (and in general, Padme in the first episode is gorgeous💅)
Why do I despise TCW? Let me spell it out for you.
The Phantom Menace established the absolute narrative and character status quo for the entire saga. What did TCW do? It spat on Episode I at every single turn, cheapening and devaluing everything it beautifully set up.
And The Phantom Menace happens to be my favorite episode!😤
Forced segregation is not pacifism, and a mandate built on stripping away your own people's identity will never be a good thing. 🙄
Conformism will never be a worthy contrast to the romanticism of Anidala: no matter how destructive romanticism may be, it possesses at least a primal honesty and a willingness to burn to the very end, whereas conformism inevitably leads to the exact same ruin or even worse, because no one will take responsibility for that destruction...
“The people chose pacifism, Satine is just a servant of the people!” ©
Yeah, the people chose Hitler in 1933 too(And I absolutely have the right to make this comparison, deal with it.)🙄
A majority mandate never justifies subsequent repression. While Satine posed as a “democratic servant” in sterile Sundari, her pacifism turned into cultural ethnocide: a total ban on beskar and the exile of traditionalists to a ghetto on Concordia. This is a classic comprador dictatorship and a police state that surrendered sovereignty to Coruscant, enforced segregation, and covered up oligarchic plunder with beautiful speeches about pacifism...
I genuinely don't get people who see THIS as pacifism and think it's actually a good thing...
We Need to Talk about this
There is an aspect of the Deception Arc in the Clone Wars that is overlooked far too often, especially in posts which exonerate ObI Wan for his actions (most of them, let's be honest).
What Kenobi did was more that just LIE to Anakin.
He inflicted on him (and Ahsoka) the exact same pain and grief and trauma that the death of Qui Gon Ginn in Episode One bought to him. For all the fans howl and scream and rage about how much Obi Wan suffered, and make endless GIFs about his "infininite suffering" because his lost his Master and "father figure" - he inflicted exactly that on Anakin and Ahsoka Tano.
Like if you look closely, you can see tears welling up in Ahsoka's eyes as she cradles Obi Wan's "corpse". You can hear the despair and anguish in Anakin's voice as he calls his name and desperately tries to revive him. Actually, it may have been worse for them, because they were both younger than he was when Qui Gon died. Ahsoka was barely 16 and Anakin maybe- 22? Whereas he was 25.
The fact that WE as the audience instictively know Obi Wan isn't dead doesn't exonerate him of this. The characters don't know. Ahsoka and Anakin both think they have lost their best friend/Master, and the mentor figure who they looked up to. Anakin believes he has lost his BROTHER, the man who practically raised him.
This is exactly the same pain, the same suffering, the same level of torment and trauma that Obi Wan suffered when he lost Qui Gon. He meant as much to both of them as Qui Gon did to him.
So every single time you say that Anakin "had no right" to feel the way he did about Obi Wan's actions in the Deception Arc, it is exactly the same as saying that Obi Wan "had no right" to feel the way he did over the death of Qui Gonn.
Every time you condemn him for being "selfish" because he was upset and hurt, I reserve the right to deny and minimize Obi Wan's suffering.
The simple fact that Obi Wan was willing to inflict this on Anakin and Ahsoka, "for the mission" was beyond callous. He KNEW how it felt to lose a beloved Master/Mentor figure in to violence. He knew how it felt to hold him helplessly as he died, to weep over him.
He KNEW how much pain it would cause, but not only did he not show a modicom of sympathy , he judged Anakin for the way they felt. He USED him and Ashoka in the worst way possible.
Your constant attempts to exonerate Obi Wan of all wrongdoing during these Episodes by denying the pain that he inflicted on those who he supposedly loved, and gaslighting them represents everything that is wrong with this fandom.
Just another example of TCW08 writing characters ooc. I forgot about this when I did my post about how the PT was ooc in TCW08, but this is exactly how Obi-Wan was badly written in that show. He would have never done such a thing.
Obi Wan could definitely be an asshole as a master. He had some very problematic training tactics. He was harshly critical, manipulative, dismissive, and sometimes downright emotionally/verbally abusive . He used Padme as bait to lure Anakin into a trap to kill him without her consent, which was messed up. He really should have just put Anakin out of his misery with a clean death penalty on Mustafar, rather than letting him burn alive when he got the high ground, but he didn’t because he was a coward and I think subconsciously wanted Anakin to suffer for his crimes. When they first met, he was a petty and snobby brat towards a slave boy who was 16 years younger than him in TPM.
However, yeah, faking his death to get a reaction out of Anakin to “test him” just seems blatantly and deliberately cruel to the point of feeling like flanderdization of his flaws.
In one word (combined of two)
Moo
Duck
Sorry, I understand that you do not understand this "specific" humor, but I am already tired of writing and commenting in the past about the "bastard behavior of Obi-Wan towards Anakin" and besides, everything has already been said very clearly and frankly perfectly in Your bridges. Therefore, I just insert this moronic rebus from myself, instead of a thousand words!
These two words are combined into one, which is consonant with Russian “мудак”, which means bastard, bestial behavior, asshole
Вот уж действительно. Мудак
Here is the difference between Anakin’s "Dark Side" in the movies versus TCW.
In the movies, he is always, always ashamed of his evil deeds. Even when he executed the unarmed Dooku, he felt instant shame and regret.
In TCW, there are only two variants: either he does bad things and feels absolutely no shame about them, or the writing frames his completely right actions as something inherently "bad" (like that moment where he killed the terrorist).
Oh, and then there's Clovis, but... screw Clovis, I don't even want to remember that garbage
Some guy literally about to blow up the ship: hahaha I’m gonna blow up the ship! But wait! Two people with weapons stand in front of me! Ohoho but you’re a pacifist, surely you wouldn’t, and you’re in love with the pacifist, so come on now—
Anakin, tired of the babbling and saving an identity crisis for Obitine: *stabs him*
The music: *darth vader*
Obi-Wan who was literally considering doing the same thing five seconds ago: Anakin…
Anakin: …what??
Yes, that's exactly it. And what was Anakin doing wrong? In offending Satine? 😆
I even came up with a joke:
Anakin saw a mosquito land on Ahsoka's shoulder: (crushes the mosquito)
Imperial March: (starts playing)
Anakin: Are you kidding me?! It's a mosquito!
Here is the difference between Anakin’s "Dark Side" in the movies versus TCW.
In the movies, he is always, always ashamed of his evil deeds. Even when he executed the unarmed Dooku, he felt instant shame and regret.
In TCW, there are only two variants: either he does bad things and feels absolutely no shame about them, or the writing frames his completely right actions as something inherently "bad" (like that moment where he killed the terrorist).
Oh, and then there's Clovis, but... screw Clovis, I don't even want to remember that garbage
I am so sick of TCW fans constantly claiming: "Why are you complaining about the show's retcons when the Prequels retconned the Original Trilogy too? Like, why does no one mention Qui-Gon in the OT, why does Obi-Wan claim training Anakin as his own personal achievement, and why does he say Yoda trained him?"
It’s an outdated and honestly incredibly stupid argument, but I’m going to break it down anyway. There is an explanation for this, both a logical one and, in a way, even a poetic one.
The logical explanation comes down to a simple question: why would he even bring him up??? Qui-Gon died ages ago (and yes, I know he became a Force ghost), while Yoda is alive and is exactly who Luke needed at that moment. Besides, Yoda is literally the master of all Jedi; he instructs every single youngling in the Temple, so there is technically no retcon here- Obi-Wan genuinely was his apprentice. And what kind of "achievement" is he supposedly claiming anyway? That apprentice threw the entire galaxy into darkness, so Obi-Wan taking full responsibility for it is a burden of immense guilt, not something he's bragging about.
The poetic explanation is... Did you people even watch Episode I? Throughout the movie, Obi-Wan doesn't really separate himself from Qui-Gon in a sense. Just look at his line: "Why do I sense we've picked up another pathetic life form?"
Ask yourself, who exactly is "we"? Qui-Gon was the one dragging Jar Jar and then Anakin along against Obi-Wan's wishes. That "we" is definitely not just some formal, professional pronoun.
And after Qui-Gon’s death, his dying wish completely became Obi-Wan’s own will when he firmly decided to take Anakin as his apprentice. So, based on that, you can comfortably say that Qui-Gon isn't mentioned in the Original Trilogy precisely because he and Obi-Wan are inseparable. His legacy completely merged with who Obi-Wan became
So yeah, this isn't a retcon, it's an addition... Unlike everything that happened in TCW...🙄
Some Star Wars fans honestly argue that because Anakin used his status as a slave to save Jar Jar from Sebulba, it proves slavery "wasn't a trauma or a problem for him."
I’m sorry(not sorry), but that is a wild take.
Anakin is naive in TPM, but he is far from stupid. Understanding how your oppressive system works and using its own messed-up rules to protect someone weaker doesn't mean you're fine with it. It means you're surviving.
Dynamic adaptation to trauma ≠ lack of trauma
By this logic, we can comfortably claim that Vader never suffered either. I mean, why would he? He’s essentially Palpatine's slave, yet he constantly and calmly uses his position, power, and fear factor to get what he wants. Does that look like a man without trauma to you?
Though, if we’re talking about Filoni’s TCW Anakin, he probably wouldn't care even as Vader, but that’s a whole different conversation about canon and character consistency
TCW ruined Anakin's character so much that one person seriously wrote to me that slavery wasn't a trauma for Anakin
🤦♀️
Anyone who genuinely believes Anakin and Padmé’s love is just "possession disguised as devotion built on fear" has clearly never bothered to actually watch Episodes I and II. To reduce their high-romantic destiny to mere "clinging and a lack of trust" is a textbook display of fragile pop-psychology trying to domesticate a mythic tragedy; their bond in the first two films was an untamed, beautifully liberating act of total sincerity, where both consciously shed their suffocating social masks as Jedi and Senator to choose the absolute truth of living emotion over a dying, hyper-controlled system. What certain shippers (we all know who I'm talking about) cowardly dismiss as "love stopping being something that frees you" was a titanic, pure defiance against a cold Order that demanded the suppression of the human heart, proving that their tragedy was not that they loved incorrectly, but that their ultimate spiritual liberation was later brutally twisted by external manipulation and fate...
To claim that Anakin and Padme's relationship was built on a "lack of honesty with themselves" is the peak of ignorance from infantile victims of TCW propaganda, who are so blinded by systemic conformism that they mistake cowardice for virtue. True dishonesty with oneself is when you suffocate a living feeling, choosing dead duty and hiding behind regulatory paragraphs for the sake of comfortable survival in a system - whereas Anidala is an example of absolute, terrifying sincerity, where both consciously shed the fake masks of status and chose to burn in the truth of their feeling, instead of spending years imitating loyalty to someone else's codes, turning their lives into a cold storage room.
Their love is not possessiveness disguised as devotion - it is devotion itself (and yes, for the stupid - this is not selfishness)
The Myth Despises Purity: Why "Healthy Romance" Will Kill Star Wars
The idea that relationships in Star Wars must be "healthy" and age-appropriate completely misses the point of the franchise. Relationships in SW have never been perfect - and they were never meant to be.
Lately, there is a desperate push within certain fandom circles to rewrite the history of romance into a sanitized, uniform template: the overused trope of "two teenagers meeting in a difficult time and falling in love." This is a blatant attempt to force modern conformist standards onto a universe that was originally built on operatic drama. People are rewriting the lore just to validate their own vanilla shipping fantasies, pretending that romance in SW has always been safe, clean, and ideal in terms of age. But Star Wars is a modern myth, and myth does not tolerate moral purity.
Let's look at the actual foundation of romance in SW. Let's look at two couples, one being the foundation of the original trilogy, the other - of the prequels:
Han and Leia: A 13-year age gap between a hardened smuggler and a young princess.
Anakin and Padme: A 5-year age gap, and they met when Anakin was a child and she was a teenager, which created a highly complex, tragic psychological bond.
Is this normal for modern moral crusaders? Of course not. Today, Anidala is heavily branded as "toxic," with people using a ruler to measure who looked at whom at what age in Episode I. And if the Original Trilogy were released nowadays, Twitter would simply burn to the ground, and Han Solo would be "canceled" for harassment as early as Hoth. His iconic, arrogant move along the lines of "You just don't want to admit that you like me" would be immediately showered with accusations of abuse and violation of personal boundaries by the modern fandom morality police. Given the 13-year age gap, Han would be instantly written off as one of the galaxy's main predators.
But all this whining only proves one thing: the epic storytelling of SW became legendary precisely because it didn't give a damn about the approval of therapists. Cut out this chaos, the age gaps, Han's brazen confidence, or Anakin's obsession from SW - and you are left with a dull, refined bubblegum story about proper teenagers. Trying to purge this edge and internal complexity just to turn the universe into a safe space for cliché romances is simply ridiculous. Real SW romance is defined by its dramatic and tragic weight, not by how smoothly it fits into a manual on conformism💅😒
Almek says in season two that the people will view Death Watch as liberators if the Republic intervences.
But... Why?
It was the Republic that helped them establish pacifism and get rid of Death Watch in the first place. So why on earth would the people side with Death Watch when the Republic is doing, essentially, the exact same thing it did 20 years ago? It would seem, what is the difference to them if the goal is the same?
The difference is that over these 20 years, Satine failed to build an independent state. Deploying troops again would simply open the people's eyes to the obvious: their planet remained a dependent satellite of Coruscant, and a foreign boot on their soil means open occupation. At that moment, the Republic instantly turns into an outside invader, while the radicals from Death Watch suddenly become "their own" Mandalorians fighting for independence. Besides, this whole positioning of Satine as the "beloved leader of the nation" is complete nonsense. If Satine, who was put on the throne by the Republic through the Jedi, is so loved by her people, why would they turn against her and support terrorists at the first sign of trouble? The people did not love her that much; her entire legitimacy was completely fabricated.
Her entire rule is just a smoldering terrorist knot swept under a pretty liberal rug, while citizens were banned from owning weapons for self-defense. All her tantrums and stubbornness in the second season are a frantic attempt to pretend she is not a collaborator who gave up the planet a long time ago. To recognize the threat officially and call the Jedi again would mean openly admitting that for all those 20 years she was, in essence, just a regular puppet on Coruscant subsidies, whose "independence" existed only on paper. Deploying troops would destroy her perfect facade and show that her power relies solely on foreign bayonets. Long story short, Satine was not protecting Mandalore from war; she was just frantically afraid for her own power and bruised ego.
Ah? What? She assured the Senate that her own forces would deal with Death Watch? Well then. We all saw in season five how they dealt with it!
TCW’s biggest crime was manufacturing the myth that Padmé valued her political career over her devotion to Anakin🙄
I'm not the only one who sees this, right?
