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@anontheghost
I want a version of Wicked which is also the Wizard of Oz,like Dorothy and the rest of the gang still go on their adventure but the whole time Scarecrow/Fiyero is like "I wish my ex and my other ex didn't start this whole conflict Dorothy" and Dorothy is like 11 years old, dealing with the soap opera drama of this polycule and Tin man/Boq isn't making this any better by being an incel.
"As someone who actually really likes Millie (despite her character being flat as a board apart from her kicking ass and loving her husband), I’m Terrified for whatever Vivzie’s gonna do with her with this new pregnancy plotline. There are so many directions that she could take that, knowing her, could go south real fast. What if she loses the baby, returning things to a status quo? How the hell is Vivzie gonna cover a miscarriage? And don’t get me started if there’s some kind of conflict involving her decision to get an abortion - good grief! Knowing how she writes women, who’s to say she won’t be painted as the bad guy for not wanting to be a mom? We’ve seen what she’s done tackling SA in her shows, and it’s not been pretty. I’m scared to think what she’s gonna do to my girl and her character this next season."
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STUCK IN THE MIDDLE - Dog Man Animatic
(It’s also on YouTube!)
I made this drawing 1 week before the #Oscar,when i watched the movie
realized i didn't posted it here
Hope to see it's next animations soon
Two of my faves! I’ve watched Flow so many times and cried every time.
I’m convinced that Viv is super jealous of Gooseworx but she can’t do anything about it because Goose has such a massive audience. Meanwhile someone like Ashley has a smaller following, which made it easier for her to use her being poly as a blackmail against her
To really understand why Viv might feel this way about Goose you have to look at it from her perspective
Imagine you were friends since the Zoophobia days Goose even created a soundtrack for it. Later during the Hazbin Hotel pilot era she composed one of the most iconic theme song for Angel Dust. Then years later she contributed to Helluva Boss soundtracks as well
Fast forward to now you’re at the peak of your "success" with an army of devoted fans worshipping your work. But over time you and your friend have slowly grown apart. Then she drops her pilot and within days it racks up millions of views
Before you know it Netflix picks up her show, a themed café opens in Japan, and her characters are now up on a billboard in Tokyo and yet there’s nothing you can do about it because you’re no longer close
Then during the Glitch stream Viv is practically gushing over Goose while Goose being perfectly polite about it and is clearly keeping her at a distance
To make matters worse Goose is good friends with Michael and Ashley both of whom know firsthand how toxic Viv can be
There’s been no public drama between Viv and Goose but I can’t help but find it hilarious that Viv might have a one-sided beef with Goose
Honestly, i feel like Goose just learned to keep her distance from watching Viv slowly become a terrible person.
They're pretty justified too considering they're friends with Ashley and Michael, 2 people Viv has slandered with false allegations.
if i were Goose, i'd cut Viv off too.
thanks for the ask, Anon.
What if.. 🙃
Helluva Boss S3 predictions
OOC:// these are entirely based off of rumors and speculation, ranking these from "i wouldnt really care if this came true" to "if this becomes true DNR me because i will be DECEASED"
Feeling a little silly today
@true-psychictales them
Vivzie: many of my studios employees are victims of sexual assault so leave my cartoon alone!!!
Her staff who may not have even shared such private information publicly: Wow I guess my experience is being used to win a Twitter argument.
So now this all may indirectly pressure them to identify themselves or speak up so that Viv will have “proof” of what she’s saying. And some may do so gladly now, but later, maybe not so much. Not to mention the fact hundreds of hazbin fans shared their assault/rape experience publicly for the first time ever in order to defend their favourite cartoon and cartoonist. They may have felt okay with sharing it just to win an argument then, but now, i seriously wonder how doing this has affected them.
I just need to tell you guys that allowing your experience to be used by Medrano in an online dispute against “the haterz” of her animated show, is probably not in your best interest.
There are a lot of different ways to say "human beings are things to me" and Viv seems intent on working her way through them all.
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[Image description: Screenshot that reads: St. Julian the Hospitaller is the patron saint of clowns and circus workers, innkeepers, fiddle players, jugglers, childless people, and murderers. End description.]
looks like his feast day is in TWO DAYS
Happy Feast of Saint Julian
06/30/2023
JUNE OF ARC concludes in a harrowing finale!
I really enjoyed drawing St. Joan of Arc cartoons this month, so thank you all for humoring me!
If you enjoyed them too, maybe we’ll do it again next year. We’ve only scratched the surface of her amazing story!
Keep reading
demonology stolas from hell seeing that some insecure mortal popularized him as stupid incel hypocrite loser manchild:
the fuck did I do to deserve this? I am just a demon bird who's into gems and herbs ;-;
Demonology Stolas be getting the short end of the stick 😂
this reddit post is interesting and criticising stolitz stans without mentioning them ,everyone should see it ,tw : SA .
https://www.reddit.com/r/SmugIdeologyMan/s/ruM4FbIuVW
Anon, It’s like my life flashed before my eyes.
This whole comic sequence just reminded me of the infamous “Poison” sequence, any Stoliz interaction/Any of Helluvaverse characters sexually harassing or assaulting someone as a funny moment - most of the stans never question it/defend it, and Hazbin/Helluva stans getting pissed at critics/antis and saying that media literacy is dead.
sometimes I wonder what's with stans being overprotective to stolitz as catradora stans,are they victims of abuse scared of finding out they're in abusive relationship out of trauma without realising? Are they abusers scared of being called out? Are they teenagers who grew up with SPOP and were taught wrong lessons about relationships and they don't know how things works? Are they incels who loves the show and the ship and see stolas as themselves (since stolas gives me huge incel energy) because they hate women and types of "grrr I hate women! Femboys are much more easier because they love being controlled!" (No hate towards Femboys i just hate people who fetishizing them and see them as "better women") ? Are they people who are too starved for gay representation to the point they don't care if it's abusive and problematic?
Personally, I feel like part of the reason stans are so overprotective to Stoliz is mostly because of Vivziepop and her hyping and enabling them (whether it at cons or on Twitter, etc).
And another reason why I feel they are overprotective has to do with Stoliz being their beloved favorite ship and mix of them craving lgbtq representation.
I’m sure on Tumblr you can easily find Stoliz stans talking about critics/antis vaguely and saying how dumb they are for misunderstanding their favorite precious ship.
Most or at least half of the fandom/standom are minors who just don’t know better. Sooner or later they will grow out of the ship and realize how creepy it is in a few years.
And other percent of the fandom who are adults stans are just very passionate about the ship. Some of them sometimes go too far and even at times ignore the problems regarding Stoliz. It’s kind of impressive how far people will go for “toxic yaoi.” But that’s just my personal opinion.
While this may possibly enough change in the future over the new season and potential shorts haven't been out yet, but think we had it good with not being shown more of Moxxie's childhood growing up in a mafia household over how the show would handle it. Like sure there's going to be Crimson being a A++ parent to Moxxie, but then we got Crimson's henchmen most likely thrown in the mix, if the team decides to use them to fuel the childhood memories. Like they could be worse than Crimson himself or they could be like how most fans wrote them as supportive and caring.
Honestly, if we get more childhood memories, hope its just focused on Moxxie and Crimson with no one else in the mix because, while I like the idea of Crimson's mooks being good demons to Moxxie unlike his own father, I don't know how the show will handle that and would be better if it was a fanon take for folks to enjoy just like the fanon idea of Blitz being half lust demon.
Agreed.
While I would love to see more of the henchman, including that relationship on a five minute short would be too messy, especially if its focused on something else
Salem/Squid's board design of Crimson was something. Like a muscular imp with slicked hair and a mustache that makes him stand out from his own son Moxxie.
I know! I loved that design. It truly showed his age and was a lot more menacing than what we got in the final result.
So... What is the deal with Blitz's and Moxxie's upbringing?
Let's start by saying the obvious: Blitz’s and Moxxie’s families are almost exact mirrors to each other: They both have terrible, greedy fathers who just enjoy making their lives miserable and amazing dead mothers who we know nothing about except their cause of death and how much they are missed by their sons.
The only significant distinctions are that Moxxie's story is splattered with glossy mafia paint and that his mother was drowned while he was still a very young child. On the other hand, Blitz's mother, Tilla, died when he was a teenager and was burned to death. The rest? Pretty much the same.
However, the similarities between their backstories are not really the problem; after all, in real life, we can find people who lived through similar traumas and that is a pretty interesting aspect to explore in fantastical stories as well.
Many other shows have done it incredibly well (Bojack Horseman) but Helluva Boss failed in that department.
The very interesting family dynamics were only bought at the surface level, not explored in any meaningful way except to give the characters “cheap trauma moments” that could potentially get ruined by either the insertion of out of place comedy or never mentioned again.
How am I supposed to treat Crimson’s abuse of Moxxie as something serious when the minute before dildos popped out the walls for a joke? How did Blitz’s guilt over the fire and his mother’s death truly affect his relationships—romantic or otherwise? Was it all just a narrative plot to drag the Stolitz charade for as many episodes as possible? Heck, we do not even see Blitz and Mooixe interact more about their shared trauma! Or about how much they missed their mothers.
It is a little depressing because, despite knowing nothing about Moxxie and Blitz's mothers, we, the viewer, are expected to care about them and see their significance. Instead we are left with a million questions that will probably never have an answer.
Were they really good parents or are their sons only remembering the good parts of their relationship because they are dead?
How did they truly influence their kids? Did Moxxie’s love for musical theater come from his mother? Did Blitz’s fascination for horses be because of Tilla or was it someone else?
How was their relationship with their husbands and why did they stay even after the marriage went south? What brought them together in the first place? Because, in all honesty, both couples just don't seem compatible in any way, that one just can help but ask how did everything worked.
Sadly, we can only speculate.
So, without further due, these are my speculations. Part of the great rewrite that I am doing of the series. Because sometimes terrible writing decisions just move my creative juices in the right direction.
Tilla and Cash Buckzo. “I do love you, as much as I am capable of loving anyone, which is never enough.”
What would have happened if Princess Carolyn and Bojack Horseman ignored all the red flags in their relationship and chose to get married anyway? That wouldn’t have been good, but that is exactly what happened to Tilla and Cash Buckzo—the result was a messy marriage where love could not overcome their different views on life and incompatible personalities.
So... why did they stay in a marriage that was not working? Simple, a divorce would mean financial ruin for both of them.
Let me explain.
(Worldbuilding note: How marriage functions and how people in Hell generally view it is one aspect of the Hellaverse that truly baffles me. To avoid confusion, each ring in this revision will have its own set of marital norms and perspectives.)
(In the Greed Ring, marriage is nothing more than another business transaction and is treated as such. Two individuals may absolutely hate each other, but if the marriage will benefit them economically, then they will go through with it.)
The sole compelling argument for Cash and Tilla's marriage was that it was the wisest course of action to maintain and save their respective livelihoods. Imps are not permitted to own companies (as I stated in the Stolitz Non-Romance rewrite.) and in the Greed Ring, Mammon owns ALL of the entertainment industry (circuses included) and he will not hesitate to shut down a circus if it is not bringing the profit.
The small circuses Cash and Tilla were supervising were on the brink of bankrupsy, so what better solution than to marry each other and combine their assets? It will give them more time to survive.
In hindsight, their plan worked perfectly; Tilla and Cash were able to build up themselves financially, and using their combined business talents, they were able to expand their new big renovated circus and turn in a profit that would keep Mammon off their backs.
They were great business partners, but as a couple, they lacked a lot.
They did occasionally have tender moments, but they were squandered by arguments, lengthy silences, and extremely uncomfortable dinners. At one point, they even began sleeping in different beds, just to avoid fighting. Everybody who knew them could see that they were just not good for each other and could barely tolerate the other presence.
This begs the question: How did they manage to have Blitz and Barbie?
The decision to have a kid was straightforward and, like their marriage, based on business. They wanted a successor to take over their responsibilities when they died, as it was something now needed as the circus grew. So one night, they decided to get drunk and just get it over with.
But, to the surprise of themselves and everyone else, Tilla and Cash were their best selves throughout the pregnancy.
During those four months that the pregnancy lasted, Cash and Tilla acted like a happy couple, anxiously waiting for the arrival of their beloved baby. They no longer fought; they were just too busy happily imagining a future where the three of them would be happy while preparing for their child.
Maybe everything would be okay; their relationship could only get better from now on, right? Once their beautiful little girl arrives, they will be a complete family of three with no intentions of adding more.
Yikes.
In their defence, there are few medical facilities available to imps, and when they attended the controls, the physicians informed them that they would only be having one child, Barbie.
Their budget and plans were severely ruined by Blitz's unexpected arrival because they were only ready to provide full care for one baby, not two. If Mammon kept the majority of the profits, how would they be able to buy two of everything?
They would endure a long period of hardship and didn’t they enter this marriage to prevent just that?!
Tilla, being the mother and the one who gave birth, accepted this change, promising to love both children equally; sadly, Cash didn’t.
It didn’t take too long before they started fighting again, even if it was in front of their kids. As you can imagine, growing up with parents who fought even for the most minimal of problems leaves a long-lasting impression on a child and how they will handle their own relationships in the future.
To this day, Barbie still has problems telling her girlfriends when something is wrong or is upsetting her. On the other hand, Blitz gets overwhelmed when he notices things going south in a relationship and leaves it all together.
Things didn’t really improve much as the twins grew up.
Sure, the family had their relative moments of peace, but Cash only paid real love and attention to Barbie, being the child he really wanted while completely ignoring Blitz. Tilla, upset about this but knowing that Cash won’t change, tried to give more attention to her son, accidentally ignoring her daughter’s needs.
Yes, Tilla was not a “perfect, angelic mother," canon portrayed her as. If anything, she was a little bit overbearing when it came to Blitz, as she felt she needed to make up for his father’s abandonment. She genuinely believed that Barbie didn’t need her as much, and the girl liked to spend more time with her father anyway, who needed to train her to take over the circus.
At this point, their family was divided into two separate families that just happened to live in the same house: one consisted of a kind but overprotective mother and her son; the other, a strict but understanding father and his daughter/heir. The only point in which Tilla and Cash interacted was when they worked on the circus, or when they were fighting for the most minimal things.
Their family dynamic was mostly like that... until Tilla died.
Blitz remembers only the good moments he spent with her, looking at her actions and life with rose-colored glasses of love. For him, Tilla was the perfect mother who basically could do no wrong.
However, if you ask Barbie, she’ll say that while she is sad that her mother passed away, she is unable to truly feel devastated since she never knew the woman well enough. Barbie is even a bit resentful for the times Tilla chose to spend time with Blitz instead of her.
And with Cash... How would you think Bojack would react if PC died before him?
Now… what about Moxxie’s family?
Crimson and Belia (Name I am giving Moxxie’s mom)
"You better grow up to be something great, to make up for all the damage you done."
One particular thing that I noticed about Crimson is how young he looks despite being Moxxie’s dad. If I knew nothing about Helluva Boss and someone showed me a picture of those two, I would 100% believe they are siblings, not father and son.
While we can attribute this to Vivzie's inability to draw older men, why not play with this?
Let's set up the stage.
When Moxxie entered the picture, Crimson and Belia were just seventeen years old and not even dating. However, I suppose that when you are a careless teenager, the consequences of forgetting the condom don't truly hit you until something goes wrong.
As one may expect, Crimson was not happy with the news and was even more angry when Belia told him that she wanted to keep the baby and sustained her ground no matter how many times Crimson told her to get rid of the pregnancy. Why not? They were both fucking teenagers, just fooling around and he had no intentions of becoming a father, at least not this young! What was truly stopping her?
Nobody truly knows why Belia chose to keep her son to this day.
When alive, she would tell you without a doubt that she loved her child from the first moment and couldn't bear to let him go, even in the face of less than perfect circumstances. But Moxxie hasn't believed that version of the story in a very long time.
Moxxie now thinks that the main reason why Belia had him was because she didn't want to endure the awful and harsh conditions of an Imp Health Center. Due to the horrible way the doctors treated the imp patients, lack of medicine and equipment, most imps avoided those places like the plage.
Unfortunately, sick imps had no other choice but to go to the centers for treatment. Because if an imp even dares to step a hoof on the more well equipped hospitals in Sloth or Lust, they would be immediately kicked out no matter the emergency.
For more serious issues, wealthy imps (like Crimson's family) would hire a private physician. However, Belia was aware that Crimson would never spend that kind of money on her.
Or maybe Belia didn’t want to give Crimson the satisfaction of getting out of his responsibilities.
When Crimson's own father learned about the, at that point, already advanced pregancy, he forced Crimson and Belia to get married. Given the Knowlastname family's significant power in Greed's imp neighborhoods, Crimson's status as an unmarried young father would be viewed as a shameful scandal.
Belia only consented to the marriage because she had nowhere else to go. When her parents found out that their seventeen-year-old daughter was expecting, they were so disappointed that they disinherited and prohibited her from ever returning home.
(Later, when I rewrite Exes and Oh's, I will go into more detail about what Crimson’s family does in the Greed Ring. They are still involved in “less than legal” practices and loan sharking, but is a little bit different than in canon since now I based the Greed Ring in the entertainment industry.)
Of course, as one may expect, things in that marriage went south real fast.
Every time Crimson looked at Moxxie and Belia, he saw nothing but the two demons who took away his carefree teenhood together with the respect of his father, and with each passing year, he just became more and more cruel. At one point, he simply started physically abusing his wife, who always put herself as a buffer between Moxxie and Crimson.
If Belia dared to raise her voice against her husband, Crimson would merely tell her that the opportunity to leave him went away the minute she decided to bring “that brat” into hell without his permission. Now she was just reaping what she sowed.
Being physically and mentally abused by her husband (who, as a bonus, also turned everyone in the household against her) took a toll on Belia’s mental health. She still wanted to be the best mother she could be, but how can you raise a child in an environment where everybody sees them as the enemy? When your mind makes your body so heavy that getting out of bed becomes an impossible task?
More than once, Belia considered taking her son and moving back to Wrath. But then, to where? Her parents didn’t want to see her; she lost contact with her friends, and since she never finished school, she had no hireable qualities. How would she support herself and Mooxie if she decides to leave? Being a single imp mother in hell is not easy!
It was impossible! At this point, she just needed to endure.
She will not let Crimson win; she will not let that man break her and Moxxie. While Crimson was definitely stronger than her, putting on a smile after a beating that sent Crimson into a frustrated frenzy was all she needed to feel she had won, even if her body stated otherwise.
There were also the times she and Moxxie went on hikes together, pretending that they were going on a grand adventure as far away from Crimson as possible. Being happy when Crimson didn’t want them to was the little act of rebellion she needed to stay sane.
However, Belia’s breaking point came after Moxxie’s seventh birthday, just a few months after Crimson’s father died, when her “beloved” husband brought home another pregnant imp.
Belia was no idiot; she knew that her husband had been cheating on her for years, but she never said anything because she didn’t care enough to do it. So, Crimson had a side piece? big deal, she stopped loving him a long time ago.
However, it was too much to bear to watch Crimson, a guy she believed to be utterly cruel, be a loving and caring partner to this imp and be so thrilled about the birth of their cherished child.
I mean, when you witness the same man who repeatedly denigrated your son, cursed and beat you for being pregnant, joyfully decorating a nursery while choosing baby names and spoiling his new partner, whom he never raised his voice at, it can and will break something in you.
Ultimately, what could be worse? Accepting that your partner will never change? Or realizing that you were never worth the positive change they could bring about?
What did she do wrong?
Moxxie still doesn’t know what happened to his mom; what is certain is that one day he woke up and she was not there. While part of him is sure that Crimson killed her so he could marry his new partner, there is a part of him, small but loud, that tells him that Belia abandoned him at the mercy of his father.
Why would she not? Moxxie knows that he looks a lot like Crimson, so it was possible that at some point, his poor mother couldn’t look at him anymore without remembering her abuser. He is also familiar with the sad reality that, if Belia tried escaping with him, the possibilities of re-doing her life with a kid on her toe would have been very slim.
Not to mention impossible.
After his mother disappeared, Moxxie became a ghost in his own house. Apart from giving orders and degrading him, Crimson was more focused on his new family and new children to “waste energy” in a son he never wanted. While Moxxie’s step-parent was not physically violent, their constant degrading of Belia and their attempts to erase all trace of her existence really put Moxxie on edge.
Sadly, he couldn’t say anything because the first and only time Mooxie tried to go against their wishes, Crimson put a stop to that real fast.
Moxxie had to see firsthand how Crimson was a true, loving father to his stepsiblings. He listened to them constantly, never yelled at them, and never struck them—things he never did with his first kid. He also made sure to teach them how their big brother was nothing but a failure and to stay clear of him since “wimpyness” could be contagious.
Moxxie wishes he could know them better.
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And this is all for today. I will give more information about Mooxie’s family (as well as his relationship with Chaz) when I rewrite Exes and Oh’s. Remember that these are mostly my first draft thoughts and can and probably will be changed for the final product.
I hope you enjoy! I love when you comment!
