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This mother whose daughter was bitten by a raccoon allowed the doctors to inject her daughter with antibodies against rabies, but turned down the rabies vaccine because “she has already been exposed to the virus, and her body is creating antibodies to it”. Just so people know, rabies moves slowly up your nerves, so if you’re bitten on a peripheral site like a foot or hand it can take weeks to reach the brain. It’s important to get immunised early after rabies exposure because once it reaches the brain it’s too late.
A second child has died of measles in the current outbreak in Italy. These aren't benign illnesses we immunise against, they can kill.
"#dontlookoverhere" An anti-vaccine activist conspiracy-theorizing that the London attacks were performed to draw attention away from their barely attended protest. Imagine being so conceited that you hear about a terror attack and make it all about you. Another way in which anti-vax is whack.
Parents refused the vaccine after the child received the scratch in a bike accident. Tetanus lives in the soil and isn't going away, so if you don't want to risk getting the disease, vaccinate!
From an anti-vaccine fb group. Good work John Oliver
Most supporters of the anti-vaccination movement advocate for “natural” disease prevention, such as taking lots of vitamins to bolster the immune system. So why are they opposing using vitamin K to treat babies born with a deficiency? Because it’s delivered by injection, of course.
The stalwarts of the anti-vaccination movement have been trying to dissuade parents from giving their kids life-saving vit. K shots for years. I have here an 'information pack' sold (yes, sold) for years by the anti-vaccine group the Australian Vaccination Skeptics Network to allow parents to rest assured that the vit. K shot is enough of a grey area that they shouldn't feel bad not letting their baby be administered it.
Similarly, other 'vaccine information' sites/groups such as Vaccine Liberation, VINE and Vaccine Truth have a similar attitude toward the shot, with some even mistakenly referring to this vitamin shot as a vaccine. This is nothing new, I'm just glad this blatantly anti-healthcare activity is finally garnering some of the negative media attention it deserves.
An explanation of what the percentages used to describe vaccine effectiveness really mean, and how this explains why, sometimes, more vaccinated people in the population might get the disease than unvax'd people.
Post from the Australian Anti-Vaccination Network fb page begins: "I am yet to meet a family who has decided that vaccines weren't for them or their children who thought they had the right to tell others they could not or should not vaccinate. People who believe in informed choice unequivocally also believe that others should have the right to make their own decisions."
In fact, the Anti-Vaccine Network are so about not telling others they should not vaccinate that they sell six different T-shirt designs with the slogan "Love them, protect them, never inject them"
I guess if you can't see such behaviour in yourself you're so much more likely to not recognise it in others.
So the Australian Anti-Vaccination Network have basically given up trying to sound like a reasonable, "pro-choice not anti-vaccine" group and let their crazy flag fly.
In a recent public talk their spokesperson made some pretty out-there claims – that vaccines secretly contain peanut oil which is responsible for the peanut allergy epidemic and autoimmune conditions, that vaccines are actually made with the aborted fetuses that hospitals are selling to pharmaceutical companies (which would be crazy illegal), and that vaccines just can’t work, because apparently immunology hasn’t changed in the last 70 years. In this post I detail the evidence behind each of these claims, and just how wrong it shows them to be.
Pharmacist: Do you want a flu shot? They’re free!
Me (in my head): I wouldn’t let you inject me with live virus which will shed for days exposing everyone around me on the incredibly unlikely chance that I will encounter that particular strain…
True and all, but the flu virus still mutates faster than we can develop vaccinations for it. It’s kind of one of those damned if we do, damned if we don’t situations. Best defense in my opinion is just being/staying as healthy as possible.
...except for the part where the H1N1 largely replaced circulating seasonal strains. That lead to there being an atypically high match between the circulating 'flu virus and the vaccine.
Saying "staying/being healthy" is the best defence against getting sick is meaningless, especially when the H1N1 has displayed unprecedented preference and harm *for* young people with strong immune systems.
A feel good comment that it's enough to be healthy to not get the flu is well intentioned, but just wrong this season.
Pharmacist: Do you want a flu shot? They’re free!
Me (in my head): I wouldn’t let you inject me with live virus which will shed for days exposing everyone around me on the incredibly unlikely chance that I will encounter that particular strain of influenza, if you paid me. I am 42 and healthy and not afraid of the flu. The pharmaceutical industry is evil and preys on our obsession with the avoidance of legitimate suffering.
Me (out loud): No thanks, I don’t believe in that.
Firstly, injected influenza vaccines are not live.They cannot replicate in you, therefore there is nothing to shed.
Secondly, "the incredibly unlikely chance that I will encounter that particular strain of influenza" is actually ridiculously high - over 95% of the influenza A samples tested were of strains that are covered by the vaccine. And it does protect against them, with a ~2.5 times greater rate of infection in the unvaccinated.
And you're 42 and healthy? Well the H1N1 circulating this season has been more devastating to young healthy people, with over 60% of influenza hospitalisations in the 18-64yo age group.
And I'm not sure what you consider to be "legitimate suffering" (channelling Todd Akin) - but perhaps the 75 families grieving the loss of children to flu-related illness this flu season might have some idea of what that is. Or even just anyone who's lived through a flu-induced fever with muscle aches that have left them unable to leave their bed for days.
You don't like drug companies? That's fine. But none of the reasons you brought up to not have the flu shot are valid.
hello everyone! so i am not vaccinated. not by my choice; i was way too young to decide for myself if i wanted to get vaccinated so my parents chose for me. now that i’m 18 and going off to college and know a little bit about vaccinations, if i had the choice, i’d go back in time and get vaccinated. my mom and i got into a pretty intense debate about it today and she wants to know what research i have to back up my statement that vaccines aren’t related to autism. like she wants specific details. now i know there’s no link because i’ve talked about it in 3 of my classes at school this year and i’m not an idiot. but i don’t know of any specific research or anything. does anyone have any articles they could link me to so i can educate myself (and maybe my mother)?
Perhaps this will help - a meta-analysis of the ten biggest studies of that question to date, over a million kids in the sample, and no trace of a link to autism (in fact, a slightly lower prevalence of autism spectrum disorders in the vaccine recipients).
There’s “convincing evidence” that the rise in autism and immune-related disorders in children is related to the “rapid increase in the number of vaccines given to children in the U.S.,” according to noted immunologist Dr. J. Bart Classen.
This paper is in one of the well known pay-for-publish Omics Groups journals, so it's no surprise that the entire thing seems to be a stroke-fest by Dr. J Bart Classen.
And you're right to refer to him as noted - he is infamous for pushing the idea that vaccines cause type I diabetes, based on early mouse experiments he performed with a vaccine not on the schedule, which no one else can replicate, and a statistical analysis which experts looking at the exact same data cannot replicate. Oh, and for ignoring the fact that human studies to date have failed to find any causal association between immunisation and type I diabetes.
The questions of just what side effects vaccines have has been answered by research, not by a crank paying someone to publish a review he wrote in which he pats himself on the back and pretends the last two decades of research just didn't happen.
Made rebloggable by request
There’s a variety of reasons that we do not believe in vaccinating our children. I will go through all of them, since we get asked this quite a bit.
1. I don’t trust pharmaceutical companies. There have been many instances in the past where these companies have released a drug that has caused birth defects, health issues, and death. And they have been known to withhold this information for years so that they can continue to rake in the dough. They are a multi-billion dollar industry, and often it is because they create a pill or a drug and have top-notch marketing teams to convince us that we need this drug! These companies sell the vaccines we pump in to children. You think that there are 26 more vaccines now in 2013 (with another I believe that was just released or is about to be) than there was when I was a child in 1986 for our health? Fuck no. It’s about money. More people die from the common cold than they do chicken pox.
2. You can look up the full list for each vaccine on each individual vaccine, but I will give you some of the big ones and what really makes me go, “Hmm…no I think I’m ok!”
phenol (we use that as a disinfectant!)
formaldehyde (cancer causing and used to embalm dead people. Why do I want to put that in my living baby??)
aluminium (associated with alzheimers and disease)
glycerin (toxic to kidneys and liver, lung damage, gastrointestinal damage, and death)
acetone (used to remove nail polish…why do I want that in my child’s veins?)
thimerosol (more toxic than mercury, a preservative still used in many vaccines, not easily eliminated, can cause severe neurological damage as well as other life threatening autoimmune disease)
3. No one will conduct a study on the health of vaccinated and non-vaccinated people. Why? I’m very curious about this.
4. Other countries are noticing how dangerous vaccines are. Japan won’t even start vaccinating their children until minimum age 2, and they have one of the lowest infant mortality rates in the world since this change. They are #3, the USA is #33. Hmmm…..
5. There have been many vaccines taken off the market, because their side effects were worse than the disease itself…
6. I can always vaccinate our children later in life if we change our mind. But if we vaccinate our children now with a vaccine that suddenly has info that comes out about it being deadly or causing my child’s arm to fall off…there is no way to un-vaccinate my child.
7. Looking at all of the information above and realizing that many vaccinated people catch the diseases they were vaccinated against anyways…why? I had 4 vaccines, I travel all over the world, and I have yet to catch one or start an epidemic. Only illness I ever caught that now has a vaccine was chicken pox. And I think having a vaccine for it is fucking stupid. My life sucked for a few days and I moved on and suddenly had a natural immunity to it!
I am also much more healthy than most vaccinated people I know. So, going on the research I’ve done plus my own observations, this is how I came to the conclusion that I do not want to vaccinate. It may not be for everyone, but it works for us.
Hello friend, if I may, a few points worth considering:
1 - You don’t have to trust drug companies. With decades of childhood vaccines being routinely given, we have literally hundreds of studies of their real-world safety and effectiveness done by independent researchers. It sounds like you might be interested in things like the Cochrane Collaboration reviews, in which the authors amass all the literature on a topic, grade each study in rigour and quality, and take into account potential sources of bias such as funding sources when summarising the conclusions of the literature. They’re not just blanket pro-vaccine - take their summary of the ‘flu vaccine literature which finds the shots of limited use - but they find the evidence pretty clear when it comes to, say, measles vaccination. Oh, and there are vaccines for the common cold, it’s just really hard to target over 200 strains of virus at once so they’re not very good. The fact that researchers first targeted the easier-to-combat chicken pox has more to do with biologic plausibility than money.
2 - Vaccine ingredients - you get most of those things you listed in greater doses from eating everyday foods than you do from the entire schedule combined - you’ll get more phenol in wine and chocolate than vaccines; acetone, formalin and glycerol are all produced (and further metablolised) by your body as a part of normal cellular metabolism, and an infant gets more aluminium from breast milk than from the entire childhood schedule combined. Lastly thimerosal was removed from kids’ vaccines in 2001 due to people saying without evidence that it does all sorts of things, and yet we’ve not seen a change in the many diseases the anti-vax lobby claimed it was causing. The fact of the matter is that these and other vaccine ingredients are all at incredibly low doses which are well below any levels at which they could cause harm. It’s okay want to know what’s in vaccines, but scaring others just because the ingredients have scary names is not.
3 - You will be happy to hear there are studies of vaccinated versus completely unvaccinated populations. Take this one, which found a three times higher rate of pertussis, measles, mumps and rubella in the unvaccinated cohort, and also no increased rate of other infections in the vaccinated, countering the common anti-vax claim that vaccines somehow weaken the immune system. Or this study which found no negative effect of childhood vaccinations on height, weight or cognitive test scores.
4 - No, the Japanese immunisation schedule actually requires at least two different shots by age one, but they do have a more lax schedule. Oh, and tens of thousands of cases of measles a year, mostly in kids and babies. But if you’d like to see trends in American infant, neonatal and postneonatal mortality rates over the period most vaccines were added to the schedule (figure 7 in this CDC report) you’ll see an amazing decline that is really a testament to modern medicine’s ability to save babies’ lives.
5 - Some vaccines aren’t given any more. That says nothing about the ones that are. It does show that there is active surveillance of them once they’re on the market - which if anything should be reassuring. It’s amazing how many people say “You can’t trust [medicine] because it isn’t even regulated" and then in the next breath cite examples of the regulatory systems working.
6 - Yes, you can vaccinate your kids later, but that does mean there will be a longer period in which they will be more vulnerable to diseases that damage young bodies all the more harshly. That’s sort of the whole deal with vaccinations, and the schedule - protect kids when they’re most susceptible to the worst of those diseases.
7 - Yes, the vaccinated can and do catch the disease - at much lower rates. That’s also the whole point. Nothing is 100%. Vaccination lowers your chances of catching the disease and of suffering worse effects from it if you do. The measure that’s currently used - vaccine efficacy - is terrible for getting this point across, but the equation can be rearranged to give the relative rates of disease in the vax’d vs the unvaxed, a much more intuitively graspable format. For example, the ~95% vaccine efficacy of two doses of measles vax equates to 20 times the rate of infection in the unvaccinated than the vaccinated. Even the low-sounding 62% the CDC is quoting as their mid-season estimate for ‘flu vaccine efficacy equates to a 2.6x higher case rate in the unimmunised than the immunised.
And you say you’re much more healthy than all the vaccinated people you know. That’s fine, but the available evidence just doesn’t bear out that that is a universal trend. Instead, it shows that you’re more likely to catch preventable diseases, which your vaccinated friends have an up to 20x reduced risk of catching.
I hope this helps straighten out some of the misconceptions you’ve been exposed to. As an immunologist, it’s frustrating to see so many parents scared into not protecting their kids against potentially fatal diseases, thanks to the at best unsubstantiated and at worst completely fictitious misinformation spread by anti-vaccine activists.
Conflicting comments here: goo.gl/rKmQHR, goo.gl/LzpGRp
Made rebloggable by request
There’s a variety of reasons that we do not believe in vaccinating our children. I will go through all of them, since we get asked this quite a bit.
1. I don’t trust pharmaceutical companies. There have been many instances in the past where these companies have released a drug that has caused birth defects, health issues, and death. And they have been known to withhold this information for years so that they can continue to rake in the dough. They are a multi-billion dollar industry, and often it is because they create a pill or a drug and have top-notch marketing teams to convince us that we need this drug! These companies sell the vaccines we pump in to children. You think that there are 26 more vaccines now in 2013 (with another I believe that was just released or is about to be) than there was when I was a child in 1986 for our health? Fuck no. It’s about money. More people die from the common cold than they do chicken pox.
2. You can look up the full list for each vaccine on each individual vaccine, but I will give you some of the big ones and what really makes me go, “Hmm…no I think I’m ok!”
phenol (we use that as a disinfectant!)
formaldehyde (cancer causing and used to embalm dead people. Why do I want to put that in my living baby??)
aluminium (associated with alzheimers and disease)
glycerin (toxic to kidneys and liver, lung damage, gastrointestinal damage, and death)
acetone (used to remove nail polish…why do I want that in my child’s veins?)
thimerosol (more toxic than mercury, a preservative still used in many vaccines, not easily eliminated, can cause severe neurological damage as well as other life threatening autoimmune disease)
3. No one will conduct a study on the health of vaccinated and non-vaccinated people. Why? I’m very curious about this.
4. Other countries are noticing how dangerous vaccines are. Japan won’t even start vaccinating their children until minimum age 2, and they have one of the lowest infant mortality rates in the world since this change. They are #3, the USA is #33. Hmmm…..
5. There have been many vaccines taken off the market, because their side effects were worse than the disease itself…
6. I can always vaccinate our children later in life if we change our mind. But if we vaccinate our children now with a vaccine that suddenly has info that comes out about it being deadly or causing my child’s arm to fall off…there is no way to un-vaccinate my child.
7. Looking at all of the information above and realizing that many vaccinated people catch the diseases they were vaccinated against anyways…why? I had 4 vaccines, I travel all over the world, and I have yet to catch one or start an epidemic. Only illness I ever caught that now has a vaccine was chicken pox. And I think having a vaccine for it is fucking stupid. My life sucked for a few days and I moved on and suddenly had a natural immunity to it!
I am also much more healthy than most vaccinated people I know. So, going on the research I’ve done plus my own observations, this is how I came to the conclusion that I do not want to vaccinate. It may not be for everyone, but it works for us.
Hello friend, if I may, a few points worth considering:
1 - You don't have to trust drug companies. With decades of childhood vaccines being routinely given, we have literally hundreds of studies of their real-world safety and effectiveness done by independent researchers. It sounds like you might be interested in things like the Cochrane Collaboration reviews, in which the authors amass all the literature on a topic, grade each study in rigour and quality, and take into account potential sources of bias such as funding sources when summarising the conclusions of the literature. They're not just blanket pro-vaccine - take their summary of the 'flu vaccine literature which finds the shots of limited use - but they find the evidence pretty clear when it comes to, say, measles vaccination. Oh, and there are vaccines for the common cold, it's just really hard to target over 200 strains of virus at once so they're not very good. The fact that researchers first targeted the easier-to-combat chicken pox has more to do with biologic plausibility than money.
2 - Vaccine ingredients - you get most of those things you listed in greater doses from eating everyday foods than you do from the entire schedule combined - you'll get more phenol in wine and chocolate than vaccines; acetone, formalin and glycerol are all produced (and further metablolised) by your body as a part of normal cellular metabolism, and an infant gets more aluminium from breast milk than from the entire childhood schedule combined. Lastly thimerosal was removed from kids' vaccines in 2001 due to people saying without evidence that it does all sorts of things, and yet we've not seen a change in the many diseases the anti-vax lobby claimed it was causing. The fact of the matter is that these and other vaccine ingredients are all at incredibly low doses which are well below any levels at which they could cause harm. It's okay want to know what's in vaccines, but scaring others just because the ingredients have scary names is not.
3 - You will be happy to hear there are studies of vaccinated versus completely unvaccinated populations. Take this one, which found a three times higher rate of pertussis, measles, mumps and rubella in the unvaccinated cohort, and also no increased rate of other infections in the vaccinated, countering the common anti-vax claim that vaccines somehow weaken the immune system. Or this study which found no negative effect of childhood vaccinations on height, weight or cognitive test scores.
4 - No, the Japanese immunisation schedule actually requires at least two different shots by age one, but they do have a more lax schedule. Oh, and tens of thousands of cases of measles a year, mostly in kids and babies. But if you'd like to see trends in American infant, neonatal and postneonatal mortality rates over the period most vaccines were added to the schedule (figure 7 in this CDC report) you'll see an amazing decline that is really a testament to modern medicine's ability to save babies' lives.
5 - Some vaccines aren't given any more. That says nothing about the ones that are. It does show that there is active surveillance of them once they're on the market - which if anything should be reassuring. It's amazing how many people say "You can't trust [medicine] because it isn't even regulated" and then in the next breath cite examples of the regulatory systems working.
6 - Yes, you can vaccinate your kids later, but that does mean there will be a longer period in which they will be more vulnerable to diseases that damage young bodies all the more harshly. That's sort of the whole deal with vaccinations, and the schedule - protect kids when they're most susceptible to the worst of those diseases.
7 - Yes, the vaccinated can and do catch the disease - at much lower rates. That's also the whole point. Nothing is 100%. Vaccination lowers your chances of catching the disease and of suffering worse effects from it if you do. The measure that's currently used - vaccine efficacy - is terrible for getting this point across, but the equation can be rearranged to give the relative rates of disease in the vax'd vs the unvaxed, a much more intuitively graspable format. For example, the ~95% vaccine efficacy of two doses of measles vax equates to 20 times the rate of infection in the unvaccinated than the vaccinated. Even the low-sounding 62% the CDC is quoting as their mid-season estimate for 'flu vaccine efficacy equates to a 2.6x higher case rate in the unimmunised than the immunised.
And you say you're much more healthy than all the vaccinated people you know. That's fine, but the available evidence just doesn't bear out that that is a universal trend. Instead, it shows that you're more likely to catch preventable diseases, which your vaccinated friends have an up to 20x reduced risk of catching.
I hope this helps straighten out some of the misconceptions you've been exposed to. As an immunologist, it's frustrating to see so many parents scared into not protecting their kids against potentially fatal diseases, thanks to the at best unsubstantiated and at worst completely fictitious misinformation spread by anti-vaccine activists.