Make her an actual interesting character who call out problem like femicide and misoygny❌
Kill her and reduce her to feeling happy for imuri and be one of the biggest “feminism overreact” strawman in shounen history✅
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Make her an actual interesting character who call out problem like femicide and misoygny❌
Kill her and reduce her to feeling happy for imuri and be one of the biggest “feminism overreact” strawman in shounen history✅
*SSIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGH*
From the moment Lisa was introduced, she just got bonked at each step of the way leading to her ultimate suffering by the hands of the conservative status-quo. So happy she gets sent to the gehenna of the one who had her raped by several men I guess? (no) There was so much possibilities, so much to do with this kind of character, and here she was just used as an absolute plot device, a conservative strawman, archetype of "the evil feminists who just want to destroy the world bouhou." like "Look at these women, so hysterical, so angry! They don't understand they're actually acting for their self-destruction bouhou!"
Lisa didn't even get a catharsis on her own, she was reduced to feeling happy for Imuri's choice to the very end (even FUCKING Asmodeus got a catharsis like pls) (I guess Imuri's charm is that strong, it makes characters empty themselves of all substance, just for her) Now, the only thing that remains is watching Satan act moe and silly like I care (sorry, I couldn't find the football game interesting. Maybe danverge will help with this situation somehow).
Mtefil 122
spoilers below and cw for references to sexual assault
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What are your thoughts on mtefil wrath arc this far? Personally, I'm completely confused that's the character we've been building up for since vol 1? Poor Lisa.
Sad. Disappointed. Angry. Annoyed. Disillusioned. A swarm of negative emotions swirling inside me lol. I used to look forward to reading Ekuoto every other Tuesday, but it's gotten to the point where I dread opening the chapters.
Having the penultimate (lesbian) villain be a rape and femicide victim to make her sympathetic, and then have her be a radfem and a terf while having had very minimal in-depth discussions of feminism and zero trans characters up to this point is crazy. To have her constantly spout truths about gender and class inequality, while making her be the conductor and cause of mass slaughter and rape to invalidate everything she says, is crazy. To have one of the demon lords who has misogyny as a key part of his character (though they all are in varying ways) be a major player in taking her down is crazy!
I hadn't thought about it until now, but to have THIS mini arc of ALL arcs be the arc with the LEAST female character involvement! Is! Crazy!!! Barbara and Leah are background cutouts rn. Charlotte, Manon, Becu? Barely a whisper of them. Even Asmodeus and Leviathan aren't really around in a relevant way.
It's so so difficult and painful to believe this is what Arima had planned all these years. Has been setting up all these years. Did something happen between now and then?? Because it's truly breaking my brainnnn. I'm so confused too anon. So so confused...
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Collection of the extra files from vol.1 to vol.15. Please tell me if there are any dead images so I can fix them. I'd also appreciate it if the pics weren't spread around online too much. Thanks! //
I don't if it's just me but I found the "conclusion" of Lisa/Imuri's relationship to be disturbing and oddly mean-spirited. I guess it depends on whether on not we'll see Lisa again and if that last page is meant to be seen as foreboding but idk Lisa's both lives end with her being infinitely forgiving/encouraging towards the person that got her killed (the second time on purpose), a person that just barely cares about her and seemingly never thought of her again after she burned at the stake. Maybe it has to do with the fact that Imuri's thoughts on Lisa are barely touched on and so surface level but it just feels disturbing to me, like Lisa's only purpose in life is to be a stepping stone. I don't know maybe that uncomfortable feeling could be mitigated if Lisa is somehow allowed to participate in the continuing chapters, but I have a feeling she will be quickly tossed away and forgotten about until her plan against Satan takes place and the quickly forgotten about, again.
It's definitely not just you. If this Lisa's conclusion is meant to be taken as beautiful and final it says something really unsettling about the work's view on women. It's not that there aren't problems here and there, mainly with how Imuri's character is handled, but it's salvageable depending on this specific arc. And it just goes destroying every other female character, and then has Imuri grow a little bit as a compensation. Lisa died as a stepping stone in every meaning of the word. The negotiation with her paints the pope as a virtuous martyr. Her revolution unites the Vergilius witch faction and the church against Satan. The battle with her elevates Marco Belphegor and Mikhail, two misogynists and an ignorant priest, completing the first two's character journey and fleshing out the latter's philosophy. Her uterus and plan for Satan are Chekhov's guns. Her status is a literal stepping stone for Satan's final boss. And in her dying moment, she doesn't even get to think about her revolution or the result of her hundreds of years of effort. We're supposed to accept that Lisa, who criticizes Joshua for choosing Imuri over the world and ultimately chooses to kill Imuri to take out Belphegor, accepts her end with the only accomplishment for women being Imuri accepting herself so she doesn't ruin her newest boyfriend. Imuri during the entire fight is rendered to the background, one panel to seem worry for Lisa, and her first thought in this chapter that compels her to act is still about Joshua. No self reflection on her treatment of Lisa in the past after literally walking through it, most of the reactions and effects of seeing Lisa's backstory are again from Joshua. Imuri comes out still insensitive to Lisa's suffering and barely understands or cares about Lisa at all, if she does then it's barely shown. Lisa is never her priority, she even lamented about it twice, and she remains never a priority till the end.
Imuri's sacrifice in "The Finale", JoshImuri's happy ending in "All's well that ends well" and Joshua's death in "The End" can be fake-outs but somehow "The Final Battle" where the main heroes consist of female members as supporters and the male members as leaders who take the main stage gathered with a redeemed villain to defeat the wicked witch with the help of the heroine's charm in the last moment and the hero dealing the final blow with a sword isn't, a fake-out? This is pure shounen slop I know this is a shounen but spending your entire manga subverting common tropes just to have your feminist strawman defeated in the most shounen battle to ever battle is insane. Please tell me this is all Satan's script because anything this guy explicitly meddles with feels superficial and fake like Joshua and Imuri's relationship.
Arima wanted to write yuri soo bad😭😭😭😭
Lisa's arc is honestly the most dissapointing mtefil arc there HAS EVER BEEN. Making the female fillain who's arc is rooted in her experience with men just END at the hands of men is soo stupid im gonna cryy broo😭😭😭
Is Satan like keeping Lisa’s uterus in hell or like. In one of Dante’s pockets or something.
The difference in his speech bubbles. Joshua is bold when condemning Lisa as "going too far" (which she does) but seems unsure when coming up with any other rebuttal. He says the same thing as the Pope in a worse way and acts surprised when Lisa is understandably not convinced. Like he has no right to talk about how things are improving when he even admitted to being ignorant himself.
Make the Exorcist Fall in Love chapter 120
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FINNALY Imuri get some hint of actually development
Near the transition from the Pride to the Wrath Arc, I tried to type up a post clarifying MTEFIL's weird position in religion-based fantasy. Mainly it doesn't just take aesthetics from Christian mythology but genuinely tries to engage with Christian values without just replicating its rhetoric.
Most Christian art falls into two camps. The first is propaganda, often with a goal of evangelism which not only carries certain values but affects its thematic depth. It is hard to really break new ground when your focus is on repeating an already established message. The second camp more takes the aesthetics of Christian mythology to have its own fun and is pretty common in anime/manga. I enjoy this type plenty but most gun-toting nun series don't evoke the same moral worldbuilding that makes MTEFIL stand out.
In MTEFIL evil is ever present and easy to define, to viscerally understand and interact with. Meanwhile connection to that which is good and divine is not only vague and distant, but is often facilitated through institutions that everyone knows are corrupt and just as bad as what it claims to fight. It's a moral quandary I find more interesting and more relevant to how people in real life engage in religion and other organized structures. In a world where Sin is real and undeniable but God remains unknownable and connected to so much injustice, what do you do? Losing your religion might help heal the trauma, but it doesn't stop demons from eating you.
It's also why I never expected an "attack and dethrone God" style plotline. Even though the demon lords are presented as rebels of Heaven, the offer of an eternal paradise never really meant much to MTEFIL's themes. The plot goes to hell and back yet remains unconcerned about eternal damnation. Still I was excited to see how it would try to thread the needle and solve its quandary.
But the issue I saw in the horizon and the Wrath Arc has laid bare is that the solution liberal Christian denominations use to ease their dissonance weren't really available to a narrative like MTEFIL. Liberal Christian denominations can reinterpret their texts, declare certain traditions irrelevant to their current lives, or read certain biblical myths as metaphorical. But when you accept that Adam and Eve are real people in order to make your super-powered priests work, well that gives you a lot less wiggle room to ignore what it means to be made from another's spare rib.
I don't even really think a liberal Christian pov would be a satisfying or interesting direction for MTEFIL to go, but what we currently have isn't either. Just like the demon lords, Lisa is a clearly defined character whose Wrath is given more thought and depth beyond just "angry bad." But unlike the demon lords, she's able to nuke the world and still come out looking more morally principled than the others because she at least believes in something. Which ironically, our protagonists haven't really demonstrated.
And I won't act like MTEFIL hasn't punched its way through handling its thematic questions. It's not like Beelzebub was defeated by demonstrating the values of restraint and generosity. But there's a fascinating dissonance to the antagonist's position being the most developed and nuanced, citing real life history, while our heroes keep looking for a bigger power upgrade that will bring her down.
This far in I don't have any hopes of it subverting its centrist positioning. But even if the next chapter suddenly did an entire 180 and everyone agreed with Lisa, it doesn't change the fact it's spent a lot of pages in boring stagnation. We're over 100 chapters into this narrative but it doesn't feel like it is getting any closer to really digging into the juiciest bits of its premise. Even if the politics were less eye-rolling that would be disappointing.
next week they so gonna breakup. or die. one of it for sure
Mtefil/Ekuoto vol 15 spoilers
There’s something vaguely interesting in file #95 from the volume 15 that just released but I’m reading it through google translate so like I’m not really fully understanding it. It has something to do with Satan’s possession of Dante not being entirely stable and it has something to do with Virgilius? There seems to be the implication it has something to do with why Verge was kept around in the first place by Baba Yaga but idk. There were only three case files this volume, one is from Bel and it’s about him intervening (but he mentions something about someone he hates informing him about the situation? I wonder who that is?) (it’s possible the implication is Verge since file 95 implies Verge was ferreting out information for a period of time but the witches didn’t know to who, and he’s said something about a plan in recent chapters), the other is another Henry (Josh coworker) and Josh other coworker about the apocalypse seeming scary.
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The two women who should have the most to say to Lisa are reduced to supporting roles for a man to speak directly that they are not interested in addressing her points. In the ideal world this ought to be intentional but with the current level of writing I'm not even sure anymore.