Chris, 21. i like it when characters get hurt, my favorite stuff being trickery, betrayal, pure unadultered hatred, malice, gaslight gatekeep girlbosses, and general mental instability. there will be occasional noncon but it will be tagged #noncon /, and general nsft will be tagged #nsft. please send me asks i wanna try writing drabbles
Thought I should make one of these. I’m Chris and basically this is a blog to share prompts and writing and stuff, with a focus on angst and hurt/comfort.
I really like fantasy and medieval settings with knights and royalty and stuff. As for plots/characters I like trickery, morally gray shenanigans, and generally convoluted nonsense.
Ask box is always open for requests, questions about me/my writing/my characters, song recs, basically anything.
(Gonna put the rest under the cut so I don’t have a novel at the top of my blog)
General Original Content Tags:
#ramblings:Â for my silly little thoughts
#ask: for responding to the creatures that visit my ask box
#whump prompt: for my whump prompts
#writing prompt: for writing prompts that aren’t necessarily whumpy
#whump shitpost: for dumb whump jokes/drabbles
#whump community: for meta posts about whump as a genre and its community
#my ocs: posts about my ocs
#whump ocs: posts about ocs (some shared) from whump-focused stories in particular
Specific Original Content Tags:
#remrev: short for “Reminiscent Reveries”, an oc universe of mine that follows the stories of many characters who inhabit the fantasy continent of Eugaria. Humans can use magic, memories last beyond death, dreams are all connected, Earth itself is dying and its twin is already dead, ghosts poison people, and there are glowing mushroom forests.Â
#your son darius: a collab story between me, J whump-mania, and S girlsjustwannadrawwhump, in which the main character Darius is abused by his boss, the noble Alastor. Things get more complicated when he catches feelings for his abuser’s son.
#cerovell stories: an oc story of mine about Marlais, a knight who has to take care of a mysterious dragon who was kept in horrid conditions by the noble Matthias who is now on the run.Â
Reblog Tags:
#wretched tag: posts with wretched and evil auras
#girlboss tag: posts for/about cool and sinister women
#despair tag: posts that encapsulate the unbearable pain of continued existence
#kino trope: posts about writing/story stuff that inspires me
#kino: posts I really like in general, usually other people’s writing
Other blogs/accounts/pages:
@ceroscopies is my main. Likes/replies/follows come from there and I reblog misc funnies
@cero-reblog-spam is something I made two minutes ago for the sake of reblogging anything and everything as to not crowd my other blogs
My twitter is @ceroscopy
Here’s a giant list of all my Reminiscent Reveries OCs
People of color in the whump community, how do you feel about POC characters?
(I know some people take issue with the term "person of color", I'm using it for convenience here, but this poll applies to anyone who considers themself nonwhite. Feel free to add specifics about your identity in the tags.)
(If you're white, scroll down for the results button and please reblog for sample size.)
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I like seeing POC in whump regardless of their role or other characters' race
I only like it if both the whumper and whumpee are POC
I only like POC whumpers
I only like POC whumpees
I don't like seeing POC in whump at all
I don't have a strong opinion, do whatever you want
It's complicated (explain in reblog/tags)
I'm white but I want to see results
Voting ended onJan 29, 2024
I'm curious about how people view nonwhite characters in whump. On one hand, diversity is a good thing. On the other hand, violence against a character of color could trigger people, and a character of color as the whumper could play into racial stereotypes. This also depends on the specific race of the characters-- obviously, POC are not a monolith-- but there aren't enough poll options for that.
I'd really appreciate hearing people's thoughts, especially people of color in the whump community! Please reblog this to spread it around!
me: this is a background character who's in one scene, has two lines, and is completely irrelevant to the rest of the story. i am going to stop obsessing over what to name him and use the random name generator on behindthename.com. i am going to accept the first thing it gives me and move the fuck on.
nothing is more sexy to me in fiction than a time loop being thematically linked to the experience of grief and/or trauma. a constant reliving of loss and pain that becomes literal, an inability to move on, a cycle that always finds new ways to hurt... literally where would we be without it
Whumpee associates their long hair with trauma so they cut it off
Whumpee in recovery desperate for change and to be in control of themselves cuts it all off just so something's different
Or they're still with whumper and whumper likes their long hair so they cut it off out of spite, and whumper sees them with short hair for the first time and gapes at them, and asks "What have you done?"
To say the whump community hates women characters is so cynical and unfair. Have you considered most of us are women and just not interested in hurting our own? like congrats if that's your deal, but let's not act like there's misogyny at play here.
So being a fellow female survivor of assault, why is it that we have separate tags for lady whump stuff? "Well, because women in DV situations can be too close to home", extremely fair point, I can more than sympathize with that. But then why don't we have an unspoken-rule-type tag for male whump? Why is "whump" in general entirely assumed to be male characters and male dominated? Because it's expected, because most of these women in the whump community love hurting their lil gay bois? We decree violence against women only to turn around giggling with our friends about taking a 12 gauge shotgun to a twink's knees so he has to crawl?
No one said she even had to be a whumpee. She can be a whumper, a carewhumper, a caretaker, a random side character. She can be a mom or a sister or a spouse or a childhood best friend. The problem is she doesn't exist at all. She doesn't get to be the victim or the hero or the villain because she's not appealing enough. I read male whump when I wanna feel spicy, I read female whump when I wanna relate. I want to see the same girl I was, broken and abused, I wanna see her rise to the top, I wanna see her take it too far, I wanna see justice delivered in the bloodiest form, I wanna simp over a bad bitch who would seduce me in a night club with a tight black dress and leave me in an ice bath in the morning.
In a community with 98% male OCs, I think we can spare a crumb for more women who are weak or cruel or kind. Just make more women in general.
You can advocate for lady whump and created lady whump and talk about lady whump without automatically assigning misogyny to people who aren't into it.
You're setting up a strawman argument that the anon didn't even make. They didn't say it's too cruel or somehow unethical - they just said that many women aren't interested in seeing other women hurt, which is true and something that even you acknowledge is completely fair. But you then went on to put words in their mouth.
I agree with your frustrations. While I prefer to write guy whump (because I literally write MM romance as a job and prefer creating distance between myself and my characters), there's a lot of great lady whump out there. I'm actually a huge fan of your lady whump in particular, specifically Ashley and Slasher. I want everyone to get more of the art that they enjoy, regardless of whether I enjoy it or not, and there is admittedly very little in the way of lady whump on Tumblr. But to automatically shake your finger at everyone else and accuse them of bigotry because you're not getting what you want is entirely unfair.
I'm a cis lesbian survivor too, and I have a significant preference for guy whump for a shitton of reasons that have nothing to do with hating women. (I enjoy NSFWhump but am uncomfortable seeing that with women due to my own experiences, a lot of violence against women feels sexualized in a way I'm uncomfortable with, and mainstream media already has so much violence against women, for starters.) I personally don't read whump to relate. I read it to explore
I'm not denying that misogyny plays a part in this, mind you. It certainly does. I know all too well how much internalized misogyny a lot of young women have. But it's a part. Not the only part. And I'd even argue it's a relatively small part, especially considering that the community includes a LOT of people who are attracted to men and derive sexual satisfaction from whump.
Agree with everything you said. Again and again people say "I'm not interested in lady whump, it makes me uncomfortable" and others hear "Lady whump is unethical" when as far as I know, no one is saying that.
*hitting you with a stick* YOU ARE NOT FERAL YOU ARE NOT UNHINGED you are in fact the most normal person I’ve ever seen before in my life, of the billions of people who live and have ever lived many of them have had the exact same thoughts as you and that’s wonderful, that’s amazing, you don’t need to be weird you aren’t weird everything you do is normal you sound exactly like every other gen z tumblr user you use the same phrases the same jokes your messages all have the same rhythm the same rhyme, your sense of humor is not “broken” because you laughed at a surreal photoshop meme your sense of humor is working just fine it’s normal IT’S NORMAL YOU’RE NORMAL *I’m hit by a car*
Whumper looked over the person standing before them.
"Are you scared, dear?"
The person shook their head, keeping their face expressionless and their eyes straight ahead.
"I know you're scared," Whumper continued, grabbing the other's wrists and raising them in front of their face. "Just look at the way your hands tremble."
Seeing all these polls I really feel like we've come to a point where we return to the gender binary to define which content we enjoy and create.
This is scary and hurtful in many ways; and I very much encourage all of you to take into account the diversity in gender, as well as the diversity in content.
Don't limit yourself, and don't exclude whole identities 🥰 it's just sad.
Honestly I don't think it matters if you have a preference for the genders of your characters in whump content and it's silly to have a superiority complex if you don't. Consuming content isn't and shouldn't be activism. Making sure some of your whumpers are women or nonbinary or whatever isn't going to do anything for society at large or even society at small.
Besides, lots of people are into whump for kink reasons and there are plenty of monosexuals who are only into one sex and there's nothing wrong with focusing on characters you're attracted to. Sometimes straight women just want to see men get fucked up lol and women are under enough scrutiny as it is when it comes to the interests and I say let them vibe.
I've noticed a pattern that these sorts of discussions only come up in spaces filled with women and lgbts. Normie men are living their best lives doing whatever the fuck they want with their media and don't scrutinize each other while we're over here in our niche corner of the internet asking people to diversify their torture fanfictions. It's goofy and unnecessary.
I know this is going to be a controversial take and there's more nuance going on with this whole debacle that I can't fit in this reply I'm writing to kill time while waiting for my lunch to get here, but I just got an impulse to speak from the heart and I have nothing to lose since these days I spend most of my days touching grass and kissing my girlfriend. God bless america or whatever, amen.
My point wasn't to make people not write and read their all-dude-whump.
My point was not to invalidate people writing not that.
There is a huge number of polls these days that are asking for preferences; with options only within the binary. I do believe that this actually does some harm; seeing the results (all-male winning) can be very discouraging especially for fledgling writers on here who still have a nagging feeling about wanting to write what the majority is interested in. And looking at the polls, that majority is not interested in female characters (sometimes there isn't even a 'multiple' option) and doesn't even have an option to include other genders.
I don't criticise the existence of preferences, I am salty about these other polls pressing whump preferences into a gender binary.
In the end, I feel like our stakes aren't far apart. Everyone should write what they want and not be shamed for it.
What I went for is just that.
The difference is, I believe that one snide comment or one poll result like the others' can absolutely smother somebody's will to write the perceived "niche" (as in this case, non male) content they want. And that does have an effect on a small scale.
I didn't dare to write wlw content for more than fifteen years, because as a teenager twenty years ago someone told me "nobody wants to read that!" and I had internalised it absolutely. That's scary, and I don't want it to happen to the writers around me. Not for the sake of wlw content, but for the sake of not writing against barriers in one's own heads.
My message is, just write whatever you want, but don't try to propagate a "norm" for others. Whump is a niche in itself and there shouldn't be gatekeeping - directly or indirectly - regarding which genders to whump.
I respect you for elaborating but I'm getting mixed messages here. You say it's fine for people to do whatever they want, but if they answer a poll about their preferences and say they like male-centered stuff, that's discouraging and therefore bad? Or that polls existing at all and giving them a chance to show how popular their preferences are is bad? I think polls are just a fun little experiment and the reality is some things will be more popular than others, and if simply being informed that you're part of the less popular demographic is enough to kill your enthusiasm I think that's an issue on your part.
Of course telling someone "nobody wants to read that" directly is a dick move because "less popular" is very different from "there's no audience for this content at all" and saying no one wants to read wlw content is blatantly untrue. Polls having more options than just male or female would be good though yeah.
thinking about my fondness for characters that are unhinged but in a grounded and niche way, as opposed to "haha feral bastard that kills people and is silly about it", although those characters have their place too
I enjoy characters who have one of the following traits:
-compulsive liars who lie about random shit all the time for no reason
-who "infiltrate" niche groups of bad people and pretend to be their friend while really they're just observing them like they're safari animals
-disappear for months and rejoin the group like nothing happened.
-whole-heartedly and unironically believe in insane conspiracy theories
-cultists
-old ladies who casually confess to murders they committed decades ago
-see themselves as some sort of martyr and hurt themselves for literally no reason because dwelling in their own suffering makes them feel like the next jesus christ
-never think for themselves and are completely cucked to the will of some authority figure, and are completely immune to any logical counter-argument that they're doing anything wrong because their faith in authority is so strong they don't even realize it blinded them
Seeing all these polls I really feel like we've come to a point where we return to the gender binary to define which content we enjoy and create.
This is scary and hurtful in many ways; and I very much encourage all of you to take into account the diversity in gender, as well as the diversity in content.
Don't limit yourself, and don't exclude whole identities 🥰 it's just sad.
Honestly I don't think it matters if you have a preference for the genders of your characters in whump content and it's silly to have a superiority complex if you don't. Consuming content isn't and shouldn't be activism. Making sure some of your whumpers are women or nonbinary or whatever isn't going to do anything for society at large or even society at small.
Besides, lots of people are into whump for kink reasons and there are plenty of monosexuals who are only into one sex and there's nothing wrong with focusing on characters you're attracted to. Sometimes straight women just want to see men get fucked up lol and women are under enough scrutiny as it is when it comes to the interests and I say let them vibe.
I've noticed a pattern that these sorts of discussions only come up in spaces filled with women and lgbts. Normie men are living their best lives doing whatever the fuck they want with their media and don't scrutinize each other while we're over here in our niche corner of the internet asking people to diversify their torture fanfictions. It's goofy and unnecessary.
I know this is going to be a controversial take and there's more nuance going on with this whole debacle that I can't fit in this reply I'm writing to kill time while waiting for my lunch to get here, but I just got an impulse to speak from the heart and I have nothing to lose since these days I spend most of my days touching grass and kissing my girlfriend. God bless america or whatever, amen.
You can’t let intrusive thoughts “win” because there isn’t a fight to win. There is no fight. There is no danger to contain. The “fight” is punching yourself in the face and telling yourself that if you don’t do this, you’re going to accidentally act on something that terrifies you to your core. That’s the biggest reason why I hate that phrase so much. Not just because it creates misunderstandings and stigma in the minds of the unaffected, but also because it literally encourages the “O” in “OCD” for the affected. “Haha you gotta fight them! Fight it so much it ruins your life! You wouldn’t want them to win, do you?” Even when people are trying to dunk on how stupid that idea is, they still make jokes like “haha if I let my intrusive thoughts win I would be in jail” and it’s like…no you won’t. If you let your intrusive thoughts “win” nothing would happen because it’s just an unpleasant thought with no power. You let the intrusive thought wash over you, you let it “win” by letting it slither over your open palm, you say “that was weird”, and you continue with life. You don’t put it under a microscope. You don’t clench onto it trying to kill it, you just let it go. And then it’s fine.
i love you mirror versions i love you possession i love you cloning i love you simulacrums i love you shadow selves i love you digital copies of a mind i love you alternate timeline versions i love you tropes that play with identity and what it means to be a certain person
