I mean, Padme IS played by a Middle Eastern, Ashkenazi Jewish woman, but sheās white-passing, and thereās a whole kettle of fish that, frankly, Kylo Ben stans donāt give a shit about when it comes to parsing the ethnic and racial complexities of an Israeli-born, Ashkie, white-passing Jewish woman like Natalie and HER complex relationship to her ethnic, racial, and cultural presentation in America, so likeā¦ the difference between Padmeās Jewish coding (ābecause this character is played by a Jewish actor and is scapegoated by Space Hitler for all of the problems that he is causing in the Galaxy, also sheās murdered by Space Hitler and her children have to be hidden for their own safety,ā among other things) and Ben Soloās Jewish coding (āthis character is the son of two characters who are Jewish-coded and played by Jewish actors, but he himself is not Jewish and IS A FUCKING NAZI HIMSELF, BY CHOICE, AS AN ADULTā) isā¦ incomparable.
Adam Driver is just a WASP, heās not fucking Jewish, and assuming he is because of how he looks is antisemitic and gross. And in terms of his character codingā¦ likeā¦ not an accident that JJ didnāt cast a Jewish actor as their son. Thereā¦ are Jewish actors who could have played Kylo if JJ had wanted him to be played by a Jewish actor. But JJ intended Kylo to be a dude who full-on rejected his Space Jewish heritage and became a full-on Space Nazi, soā¦ he cast the WASPiest goy of all goyishe WASPs. And āBen Soloā IS NOT Jewish-codedā¦ because āBen Soloā isnāt ANYTHING-coded. He exists for about 10 minutes in the very finale of the trilogy, and he doesnāt say anything besides āow,ā and he basically has one fistfight and then gets thrown in a pit and dies. That isnāt Jewish coding. Thatās nothing-coding. And Kylo fucking genocidal rapist Ren? IS NOT JEWISH-CODED. HEāS LITERALLY. A NAZI. HEāS A GODDAMN SPACE NAZI. HEāS NOT JEWISH-CODED, HEāS A MOTHERFUCKING SPACE NAZI PLAYED BY A GODDAMN WHITE ANGLO-SAXON PROTESTANT BAPTIST.
When people argue that Ben Solo is Space Jewish because Leia and Han are both Space Jewish characters played by real-life Jewish actors: fine, thatās fair, and it can be written about in fic or meta if you want to in an interesting way, if thatās what you want to do. BUT ADAMāS FACIAL FEATURESā¦ ARE NOT WHATĀ āCODES HIM AS JEWISH,ā BECAUSE ADAMāS FACIAL FEATURESā¦ ARE THE FACIAL FEATURES OF A NON-JEWISH MAN WHO LOOKS LIKE RICHARD III, A NON-JEWISH BRITISH MAN, WHO IS THE GENERIC TROPE FACE-INSPO FOR VILLAINS LIKE KYLO REN (And Snape, and Loki, and the king in Shrek which Iāve never seen, and Richard III, andā¦ like, a lot of villains in Anglo-Saxon cultures.)
And āBen Soloā/Kylo Renās CHARACTERIZATION? Is 1000% NOT coded as Jewish. The only canon characterization that exists so far for Ben Solo is as a baby, as a toddler, when heās just attacked Luke, and in the last ten minutes of TROS. Nothing he does in any of those moments is Coded As Jewish. So if youāre just saying that you think Adamās nose is big, just fucking say Adamās nose is big. And if youāre talking about Han and Leia both being Space Jewish, then talk about THEM, not their wayward son who intentionally threw away every value either of them ever taught him and became a fucking Space Nazi. And if youāre not Jewish, and youāre talking about Ben Solo as a Space Jew who decided to become a Space Nazi, then stop, because I guaran-fucking-tee youāre being antisemitic and disgusting because you donāt have the cultural or religious knowledge to be talking about that.
tl;dr REAL Judaism is complicated enough with regard to race, let alone the Skywalker-Naberrie-Organa-Solo familyās Space Judaism. And it doesnāt fucking matter in this particular argument because ADAM DRIVER ISNāT FUCKING JEWISH. HEāS JUST WHITE. And wrt Natalie, Shitās Complicated But When Sheās Working She Chose To Pass As White Whenever Possible And Thatās Why She Uses A Stage Name, but. Whatever. Itās complicated and the answer to whether Natalie is white or not is āā¦sometimes? In some contexts?ā The answer to whether Adam is whiteā¦ IS FUCKING. YES. HEāS JUST WHITE.
tl;dr tl;dr Also, Hayden and Mark areā¦ like, the #2 and #3 of Very Not-Jewish Men In Star Wars after Adam lmao soā¦ ::general gestures of being annoyed with this argument::
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