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geno//21yrs // the presentation of self in everyday life- erving goffman 1959 // currently talking about nevermore. will and the other guy centric

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Lenore thinks she's in Heathers, Annabel Lee thinks she's in Danganronpa, Duke thinks he's in Mean Girls, Prospero thinks he's in Succession, Pluto knows he's in Nevermore, Ada thinks she's in Euphoria, Eulalie thinks she's in a point-and-click Nancy Drew game, Will thinks he's in Heartstopper, Berenice is worried she's in American Psycho, Morella thinks she's in My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic, and Montresor thinks he's in Invasion of the Body-Snatchers

[durdens-mav]

A waltz! Everything is fiiineee!

[beadaru]

tbh I think everyone has the wrong slant on monty's "never said that" line. because don't get me wrong, it's staggeringly hypocritical given how many times he's called will useless or incompetent, etc.

HOWEVER, he didn't say he had never called will useless or been fed up with him. he specifically said will isn't "more trouble than he's worth". The point of the interaction is that will, to monty, is *worth* all the trouble he brings despite how much monty bitches about it. A statement which i feel is completely consistent with his behavior throughout the whole comic.

I don't say all this to sanitize the interaction or dynamic, because really this reading just makes the line backhanded in a different way. but i had to get this out there because of how different my interpretation was from some others i've seen. I didn't read it as a heel turn from monty, just a genuine verbalization of his strange twisted thought process behind sticking with will.

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New willtresor art we all gotta die

[firebird378]

Willtresor nation found dead following ep 160

[viquipo]

The summer willtresor died lol

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i write things like this nonfictionally about my own life and then i wonder why william wilson is my favorite nevermore character #sure

[dollartreemagicalgirl]

prediction,,

sui joke under the cut

[alwaysless]

Will: Is Monty here?

Prospero:

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my Personal Subjective Just-Me Opinions on romantic ships in nevermore with a massive caveat that Shipping Is Silly Fun And Differences In Opinion Should Not Beget Conflict

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in the nevermore discord theyre calling annabel maternal in nature for comforting her friend prospero and telling montresor to change his hair. okay.

EDIT: one of the folks I was referring to clarified their intent and that they do not see annabel that way in the comments! My bad for blogging before reaching out! Leaving the post up because there's conversation in the comments but I'll make it unrebloggable so further spread doesn't happen

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how lenore seems to think theyre moving

[straightasaaro]

Anabel and Lenore have the richest upbringings

Montresor? A drifting charlatan outlaw who is estranged from his family. Duke? Street magician who is from an oppressed minority. Pluto? Works at a carnival and his dad spends all their money on alcohol. Will? Farmer family with too many kids who are going through the Dust Bowl. Prospero? Doctor from an oppressed minority. Morella? Nun. Berenice? Has to rely on a sugar daddy and from an oppressed minority. Ada? Servant. Eulalie? Her dad can buy a house, but they're from an oppressed minority.

Anabel and Lenore grew up with servants. They lived in manors. They're white. Lenore's dad owns a railroad company, Anabel's family has enough money to go overseas in brand new, luxury ships.

there's no actual point to this post btw, I just finished my reread and thought this was interesting

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NEVERMORE CHARACTER ANALYTICS (by number of appearances) (as of episode 161)

there are a lot of notes for understanding how i took these measurements at the end of the post--relevant to read, I think, because some of my policies are pretty arbitrary--but the most important thing to keep in mind is that this is per-episode, not within-episode. So there is no differentiation provided between a character who speaks in 1 panel and a character who speaks in 10 panels. A more accurate measurement would go per-panel, but I love myself too much to deal with all that. Also, I am lazy, so no fancy infographics, you get screenshots of my formatted data from Google sheets. Anyways without further ado;

Full Series (1-161)

Intro+Labyrinth Arc (1-25)

Forming Alliances+Mystery Manor Arc (26-64)

Cask of Amontillado Arc+End of S1 (65-108)

Wild Hunt Arc (109-154)

Data Notes

• "Speaking appearance" applies to speech, but also other verbal sound effects like crying, gasping, or laughing even if they do not speak any actual words during the episode (ie; Annabel crying in the closet at the end of episode 101 is counted as speaking). It counts proper flashbacks, but does not count disembodied quotations.

• "Unspeaking" means they are visually present in the episode, but do none of the above. This includes flashbacks where the character is fully illustrated (ie; the panel with Duke and Pluto in ep 127) and background cameos (Duke and Morella in ep 3)

• "Mentioned" means the character is specifically mentioned by name, obviously alluded to (ie; all those times Lenore panics about Annabel during the wild hunt arc), appears in a more general flashback where they are not fully illustrated (ie; Eulalie Duke and Pluto being only in silhouette during the misfits blood pact flashback in ep 133), or is quoted in a disembodied way (Montresor's deal in ep 125)

• The order of priority: speaking>unspeaking>mentioned

• When Will is transformed into another character, I count it as a Will appearance and a [character] mention

• when Annabel hallucinates Lenore i count it as a Lenore unspeaking appearance, because she is illustrated but her words are entirely Annabel's

• Also I am very fallible there's a chance I made some errors in either counting or following my own rules, but I'm 100% sure the margin of error is no more than like 2 or 3 per character, not enough to change overall trends

(finally, hi to the people who said they'd be interested in this! @straightasaaro @gelatinefishy @yawnwhatyadoing @crows-keep @cherrybearryy )

[beadaru]

My personal notes: shocked at Morella and Pluto's high rates of appearance, surprised at Prospero's low rates of appearance

[beadaru]

NEVERMORE CHARACTER ANALYTICS (by number of appearances) (as of episode 161)

there are a lot of notes for understanding how i took these measurements at the end of the post--relevant to read, I think, because some of my policies are pretty arbitrary--but the most important thing to keep in mind is that this is per-episode, not within-episode. So there is no differentiation provided between a character who speaks in 1 panel and a character who speaks in 10 panels. A more accurate measurement would go per-panel, but I love myself too much to deal with all that. Also, I am lazy, so no fancy infographics, you get screenshots of my formatted data from Google sheets. Anyways without further ado;

Full Series (1-161)

Intro+Labyrinth Arc (1-25)

Forming Alliances+Mystery Manor Arc (26-64)

Cask of Amontillado Arc+End of S1 (65-108)

Wild Hunt Arc (109-154)

Data Notes

• "Speaking appearance" applies to speech, but also other verbal sound effects like crying, gasping, or laughing even if they do not speak any actual words during the episode (ie; Annabel crying in the closet at the end of episode 101 is counted as speaking). It counts proper flashbacks, but does not count disembodied quotations.

• "Unspeaking" means they are visually present in the episode, but do none of the above. This includes flashbacks where the character is fully illustrated (ie; the panel with Duke and Pluto in ep 127) and background cameos (Duke and Morella in ep 3)

• "Mentioned" means the character is specifically mentioned by name, obviously alluded to (ie; all those times Lenore panics about Annabel during the wild hunt arc), appears in a more general flashback where they are not fully illustrated (ie; Eulalie Duke and Pluto being only in silhouette during the misfits blood pact flashback in ep 133), or is quoted in a disembodied way (Montresor's deal in ep 125)

• The order of priority: speaking>unspeaking>mentioned

• When Will is transformed into another character, I count it as a Will appearance and a [character] mention

• when Annabel hallucinates Lenore i count it as a Lenore unspeaking appearance, because she is illustrated but her words are entirely Annabel's

• Also I am very fallible there's a chance I made some errors in either counting or following my own rules, but I'm 100% sure the margin of error is no more than like 2 or 3 per character, not enough to change overall trends

(finally, hi to the people who said they'd be interested in this! @straightasaaro @gelatinefishy @yawnwhatyadoing @crows-keep @cherrybearryy )

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#HATERGANG